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Hi Satish!

 

Can you expand on the story of Indra and Virochan for us here? A

brief account by someone would be useful for all.

 

Thanks..

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

 

 

.... safar_x wrote:

 

>.... I have to refer Chandogya Upnishad (probably), where the story

>of Indra and Virochan is esoterically narrated.Explore whether you

>are on Indra's side or that of Virochan.

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Indra and Virochan were step brothers.They had a common father,

Bramha, and seperate mothers, Diti and Aditi.When they became 18,

their father sent them to learn as to what is "Atma" (Soul). Both

went to a sage (I dont rememeber the name)and the sage ordered them

to observe waters of nearby flowing river meditating upon the

question- what is Soul- and come back to tell their individual

inferrences. Virichan pondred and saw his face in the water. He

thought that it is our face which is our soul, because when we

annoint it, it looks beautiful and when we ignore it's upkeep it

looks ugly. They both returned to the sage after a few days. Sage

asked them if they could understand what is Soul. Virochan

said, "yes; I got it. Soul is our own physique". Sage bid him

goodbye. But Indra said. "Sir, I dont think that this physique is our

Soul, beacuse it is apt to destruction while Soul is said to be

eternal. Sage asked Indra to go for more penance untill after a very

long time he could understand the Soul's Reality.

The story is revealing.As long as we keep thinking objectively we

are apt to be misguided. We must ask from our innerself as to ,"Who

is there within me that raises such questions"

In reality "I", "you", "we" are illusory qualifications for "ONE"

and the same consciousness...

I offer my apologies if I might have missed any point. I had read it

years back probably in "Chandogya" Upnishad.

Lastly here is a Meher Baba quote: "Spiritual practices are directed

to KNOW what we actualy are, not what we THINK we are..."

With love

Satish

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Thank you for the post with love, from KathyAccording to Swami Abhedananda, one

of Sri Ramakrishna's disciples, children should grow up knowing that they are

the Atman; this being the case, Brahma waited too long to teach Indra and

Virochan the Truth.But who is to argue with Brahma?

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I for got to mention that same Indra was thenceforth made king of

Devas.. and Virochan was made king of Asuras... the story goes like

that.

No doubt this story has only symbolic significance, but it tells

that unless we come out of our self imposed preconditioning of mind..

we are not going to gain anything from mental gymnastic

with love

Satish

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