SPIRITUAL PRIDE- False Pride

[Guest guest]

Dear safar_x ji, Hari Om,

 

There is another Pride called the 'false pride'. The perception that 'I am the

body' is called the false pride. This type of pride is the cause of all our ills

and keeps us entangled in the cycle of birth and death life after life through

the 8.4 M (84 lakhs) and there is nothing Satvic about it. Until we realize our

true nature, there is no hope of getting out of this cyclic effect and the

acceptance of the fact that 'I am not the body' is the starting point on the

path of spiritual Sadhana.

 

OM

radhakutir

 

 

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"safar_x" <no_reply>

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29 June, 2003 11:39 AM

Re: SPIRITUAL PRIDE-

 

 

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> aND SOMETIMES BAD. The Keyword is LOVE..... Let us be proud of our

> all pervading , contagious, infectious love......

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rahdakutir ji,

Praman.....

1. i am "safar_x" over net, my parents named me "Satish"

2. I agree with what you said about the "false pride", but consider

even that as a Divine state. How, otherwise, can you explain the fact

that a Pipal or banayan tree produces laks and laks of fruits, each

containing laks and laks of seeds. Why, the Mother Nature takes so

much trouble to produce such a large number of sees when IT

defenitely knows that only half of the seeds produced by one single

tree can cover more than the earth's surface ?

3. I feel obliged that you took the trouble in writing me direct and

consider it a Grace

Love

Satish

[Guest guest]

Dear Satish ji,

 

Correct, since this vast cosmic spread before us is a play of Maya, a power of

the Lord, it is considered to be a Lila of the Lord, it has to be divine no

doubt. But we must not get lost in His Lila, instead focus our attention on That

Liladhari, the Lord and endeavor to know Him. Scriptures tell us, that Lord to

be none other than I the Self, therefore at some point on the journey of our

Sadhana we need to turn our attention in-wards and try to know the Self. Thus

know thySelf and be free. Alternatively we must see the Lord in every name and

form.

 

Consider this: When we see the reflection of the moon in the river, we cannot

reach the moon by diving in the river, instead we must turn towards the moon to

reach it. This Lord's Lila is exactly like the reflection of the moon in the

water. One non-dual Lord is reflecting in our mind-stuff as multifarious names

and forms. Let us not get deluded by this play of His Maya.

 

In spite of the body being divine and important for our Sadhana, getting

attached to it will get us no where, instead all life's problems arise because

of this attachment. Therefore we must remember that I am not the body, a human

body is a unique instrument provided by the Lord so that we may attain the

purpose of human birth. Therefore this body must be kept in good shape so that

our Sadhana can go on uninterrupted.

 

OM

radhakutir

 

 

 

 

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"safar_x" <no_reply>

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30 June, 2003 4:53 PM

Re: SPIRITUAL PRIDE- False Pride

 

 

> Dear Rahdakutir ji,

 

Why, the Mother Nature takes so

> much trouble to produce such a large number of seeds when IT

> definitely knows that only half of the seeds produced by one single

> tree can cover more than the earth's surface ?

 

> Love

> Satish

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[Guest guest]

Dear Radhakutir ji,

You are 100% correct. My point was "Intereral Yoga"..which

seeks "transformation" of complete being. Everything is Divine..both

the sinners and the saints are Divine intruments. Some aspire for the

grace of the Divine (in theosophical terms -- Sadhak), while some

ignore the entire principle of Divinity and they follow the commands

of their vital plane of consciousness-- and we sceptically know them

as athesists. Since the vital element too is a product of the

Divinity,in some cases these people achieve great deeds and often

serve the mankind while a large number are living like an animal in

human form. We must concentrate over our inner-self..and try to

expand our consciousness in which Lila is just a Lila...every actor,

even a villian, should be admired for his/her acting.

Thanks for addressing me by name.... seems i am going to be prey

of "spiritual Pride"...hahahahaa

Love

Satish

[Guest guest]

What matters is the attitude we hold behind what we do. We can wear

diamonds with the attitude of genuine total humility and non

attachment and it is perfectly alright, while we can wear our

spiritual knowledge with such arrogant pride that it set us back

several levels.

 

Just as we take care of our temples, keep it spotlessly clean,

decorated and in good working order, we could be doing that either

for the simple purpose of respect for the space allocated for

prayers and one's beloved ishta devata, keeping the energy of the

space condusive for the purpose it serves, OR one can be doing the

same with the attitude of competition with the other temples and be

the "richest" or the "best".

 

Similarly we can be taking care of our bodies, our little selves,

out of respect for the potential divinity within, to provide support

to perform whatever one's karmic debts are, OR we can be doing the

same taking pride how great our bodies or clothes are and one's

standing in comparison to others.

 

Ultimately, it is not so much what we do that matters, but the

attitude we hold in our minds when we do it.

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma