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I would like to greet everyone in the club and to express my thoughts

on this interesting subject.

There are many postings talking on meat eating and moksha, which I

couldnt read all (due to limited time)but I read about 6-7 postings.

 

Most of the great yogis have been vegetarians and I am sure that

there are very good reasons behind this decision. Apart from those

great souls, until today I havent met any yogi who eats meat. We

might have heard or read about some left hand path tantra practices

which include meat eating, or use meat in spefific rituals but this

is a total different subject and has to be approached differently.The

subject of tantra and aghora conscerns only very advanced masters of

karma, but for the rest of us there are certain karmic laws that we

are inevitably subject to.

Plants, insects, mammals and humans cannot be considered equal as

far as their tattwic nature is concerned. In plants only one tattwa

is prevailing, that of earth if I remember correct, in insects fire

and earth (2 tattwas), mammals have 4 tattwas active and only humans

use earth, fire, water, air and ether. That is the basic reason why

removing the life of a human results to much greater karma than that

of killing a mammal. The same way people who eat vegetables are

karmically much lighter than meat eatters and this is related

directly to spiritual growth. Another reason ,which was beautifully

mentioned, is the thought forms present in a dead animal. Apart from

the thoughts of fear there are also so many others that influence the

food generally. Ayurveda teaches that all sicknesses emanate from the

food that we eat and to the power of digestion. Actually even the

food that we buy packed,in the supermarket or the food that we eat in

restarants is polluted by the thoughts of the people who cooked it.

And a mere impure thought, taken through food, can disturb a yogis

meditation. Thats why most yogis prefere to prepare their food on

their own (purify it through mantras) and never take anything else.

Meat belongs to the tamasic type of foods which makes the nature of

the mind also tamasic, and a tamasik mind can never hope to

concentrate... So if we try to achieve moksha through raja yoga, I

have serious doubts about whether moksha can be achieved without a

vegetarian diet. Sivananda used to say that the first thing that a

yogi must take care of is his diet. This can be proven to anyone

through fasting. In periods of fasting, spiritual experiences take

place without even having to meditate!

 

Bhakti yogis on the other hand have another type of diet which is

suitable, and includes more sweet taste (according to ayurved sweet

are milk products, bread, rice etc). Maybe there is an ayurveda

doctor in the club who could through more light on these issues ?!

 

However, being fanatical about the diet is an illness of the mind

again. I think...

 

I have read about animal sacrifices done by aghoris in order to

achieve quick spiritual advancement, still those persons were able to

ask permission from the animals soul and then lead it to a womb to

take higher birth. So, I strongly believe that there are such details

which we are not aware of about many things(like animal sacrifice)

written in the scriptures.

 

Namaste!

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Welcome de_spell_2000. It's really very nice to hear your words of

wisdom. I agree with you when you say that the thoughts of the

animal, even the person who cooks it ( be it veg food or non veg

food) do affect the ones who eat it. For while cooking, a part of

ourselves , our nature , our thoughts, our emotions and tendencies do

get into the food. Which is why when different people cook the same

recipe using the same ingredients, you get diferent tastes.

 

There is also a story from the Unapnishads to illustrate this.

 

There was once a yogi, who observed strict austerities. His

austerities brought properity and joy to the kingdom. The King of the

empire, in order to pay respect to the yogi, invited the yogi to the

palace for lunch. The yogi accepted the invitation and came to the

palace on the stipulated day. The king gave him a warm welcome as

prescribed in the scriptures. He washed his feet and sprinkled the

water on his own head to show his due respect to the yogi. The king

garlanded the yogi, and maidens showered rose water on him. The king

led the yogi to the dining room, and served the food himself. The

yogi was pleased with the hospitality of the king and ate to his

hearts content. After his meal, he took a small nap in the kings

bedroom. When he woke up, his eyes fell upon the kings ornament that

was kept beside the bed, and something from within forced him to

steal that ornament. He hid it inside his bag, and left.

 

The king later noticed that his ornament was missing, and sent out

orders to search all the ppl working in the palace. However no one

doubted the yogi. The yogi came to his usual place of residence, and

after a while , when the food that he ate was digested, he came to

his senses. He realised that he had stolen it without his knowledge

and came to the king and returned it. He said that, " i do not have

desires for ornaments or gems or land or money. However after eating

the food in your palace, this mean desire cropped into me. Please

investigate as to who's mind in your palace is corrupt". Saying so he

left the place.

 

The king was taken aback as to who could have such mean thoughts in

his kingdom, and started to investigate the matter. He enquired the

cook, but the cook said that he had only clean thoughts, and that he

was thinking about God and the yogi all the while. Next the

assistants, who cut the vegetables, and washed the vessels, were

interrogated. They too proved innocent. Then the vegetable retailers

were interrogated and they too proved innocent. Finally the retailer

who sold the rice was interrogated, and they found that he had

smuggled the rice in order to get more money. This thought which

appears to be so subtle had entered the food / rice that came into

contact with him, and whosoever ate it was infected with those

thoughts. The king banished him from his kingdom

 

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>From the above story we find that , the thoughts do get into the food

we are cooking. It is very evident in the behaviour of the yogi, for

his mind is clean. Thus, even one corrupt thought manifests itself

fully and becomes evident. In common people, we have a million

thoughts, and 1 single thought is just added trash and it becomes

difficult to spot.

 

This is the reason yogis cook their own food, untarnished with the

thoughts of others. Even in the days of the yore, people never used

to eat in other people's houses or in restaurants, for the thoughts

of the people who cook the food is unknown to us. They used to eat

only in houses of people they know very well.

 

Similarly the thoughts of the animals at the time of death get

impregnated into it's flesh and inseparable from it. And when people

eat, it, they eat not only the flesh but also the thoughts associated

with it.

 

I'll talk about hte nature of food and how it affects us in my next

post.

 

Hari Aum !!!

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Dear Respected de_spell_2000:

 

Thank you for your thoughts on meat.

 

Even after having lived in US for over 26 years, personally speaking

I am a strict vegetarian.

 

Once someone asked me why are you a vegetarian? Is it because of

your religion or something?

 

I said, I am vegetarian because I love animals and hate vegetables.

 

Moksha has nothing to do with eating meat and is already documented

in our in our ancient texts. At the same token one being a

vegetarian does not necessarily help or accelerate the process of

moksha.

 

Regards,

 

Dr. Yadu

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Guru Nanak's Veiws on Meat Eating

 

" Those fools quarrel over the meat and flesh, but they know nothing

about meditation or spiritual wisdom. They do not know what

constitutes as 'meat' or what constitutes as 'green vegetables', or

from eating what will lead to sin. It was the habit of the (Hindu)

gods to kill a rhinoceros and make a feast of the burnt offering.

Those (the brahmins, or other so called 'holy men' or 'sants') who

renounce meat and hold their noses when sitting near it devour

(spiritually) men at night. They practice hypocrisy. (i.e.

vegetarianism) and make a show of it to other people, but they do not

understand anything about spiritual wisdom or of meditation.

 

 

O Nanak, what can be said to such blind people?

 

 

They cannot reply nor understand the logic presented to them.

They alone are blind who do blind deeds.

Their minds have no eyes.

They are produced from the blood of their mother and father, and yet

they will still not eat fish nor meat...

 

 

...All beings and creatures are made up of a flesh (i.e. are made of

cells) and the soul has taken up its home in flesh.

They (the brahmins) eat the uneatable and they then reject and

abandon what they could eat. They have a teacher who is blind. In a

flesh we are conceived, and in a flesh we are born, we are all

vessels of flesh. O religious scholar, you know nothing of spiritual

wisdom or of meditation, even though you call yourself clever. Meat

is allowed in the Puraanas, meat is allowed in the Bible and the

Koran. Throughout the four ages meat has been eaten....

 

 

....O Pandit, you do not know where meat originated. From water are

produced corn, sugar-cane, and cotton....Many of these (and more) are

just the different modifications of water. Abandon all these relishes

and one will become a true Sun-neya-see,.." (Solitarian). (i.e. if

you wish to have a diet that does not harm or take life then abandon

eating anything that was once alive, plant or animal, and abandon

taking any water that might contain any life-forms in it.)

 

 

Written by Guru Nanak, pages 1289-1290 from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib

(A hymn about the stupidity of religious vegetarianism)

 

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" None of the grains of corn is without life. First there is life in

the water by which everything else is made green....All consequences

of births and deaths are decided by God alone; it is through His Will

that we come and go. Eating and drinking of food that God gives as

nourishment is pure.

Nanak says, the Gurmukhs, (the true followers of the Guru), who have

realised the Lord, are not stained by impurity "

 

 

Written by Guru Nanak pages 472-473 Guru Granth Sahib (A few lines

from a hymn concerning about the idea's of purity)

 

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Vegetarianism, Caste-system and other such Brahminical practices has

it's roots in Hinduism. It is of recent origin of Brahminical

thinking that a religious person should be a vegetarian. Ancient

Vedic accounts attribute animal sacrifice as being a important Hindu-

Vedic ritual and of Brahmins in ancient times eating beef and horse

meat. An important note from history is that in the past Buddhism

flourished and once was India's main religion, but the powerful hold

of Hinduism over the minds of India's people could not be shaken off

and once again Hindu practice's (and new ones) came into place.

Today, Hindu-Brahminical beliefs have made deep in-roads into the

most sacred areas of Sikhism, and I will finish this article with a

warning to the Khalsa given by Guru Gobind Singh 300 years ago;

 

 

As long as the Khalsa Panth retains the distinctiveness of the Sikh

ideals,

I shall bless it with power and glory.

But, when it follows the ways of the Brahmins, I shall not trust it.

 

Sikhnet Sponsored by Amar Infinity Foundation

 

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Sunday, September 16, 2001, the hindu

 

 

 

Ignorance is usually accompanied by intolerance and recently we have

had plenty of both on beef consumption in India. An article by Harish

Damodaran (Business Line, September 4) presented Central Government

statistics which stated that the meat India produces most is beef

(1.44 million tonnes in 2000); the second is buffalo meat (1.42

million tonnes) and only third, is mutton and lamb (0.7 million

tonnes). Beef and buffalo meat together account for as much as 60 per

cent of domestic meat production. Fish is in a different category

altogether with annual production at 5.8 million tonnes a year. With

some rough, but reasonable, calculations Damodaran showed that the

amount of protein Indians get, on average, from all forms of meat is

roughly the same as from pulses. This is unusual for a supposedly

largely vegetarian society, most of whose "NV" citizens are not

supposed to eat beef.

 

The per capita consumption of beef/buffalo in India is 2.8 kg, about

half that of fish, but more than twice the average intake of mutton,

pork and poultry - indirect evidence that beef consumption must be

quite common among meat-eaters of all religions. Yet, because,

increasingly, the beliefs and taboos of some are expressed as

intolerance towards others, outside Kerala, beef - which is the

cheapest of all forms of meat in India - has to be bought almost

clandestinely; it is unhygenically stored and it is only the meat of

sick and dying animals that is consumed. The result is that this

inexpensive source of protein is often denied to those who need it

the most. A friend made the provocative argument that vegetarianism

is the prerogative of rich societies, and beef, the protein of the

poor. There is more than a grain of truth here.

 

Efforts to dispel our ignorance about Indian food habits are

controlled by our increasingly powerful thought police. Some groups

have gone to court and obtained a stay on the publication of a

scholarly book, Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions. The

author, well-known historian Prof. D. N. Jha, has extensively argued

elsewhere, too, that few taboos existed on beef in Vedic times. This

was based on a study of Hindu religious texts and scriptures, which

give ample evidence of beef-eating in Vedic India. Contrary, then, to

what Hindutva would like us to believe, it was not Islam that brought

beef-eating to India. While taboos on cow slaughter and a shift away

from beef-eating emerged with Buddhism and Jainism, this meat never

disappeared from Indian diets. What did happen from the middle of the

first millennium, was that beef-eating was increasingly associated

with "pollution" in the very era when there was a proliferation of

the so-called "untouchable" castes, which is where it has largely

stayed. (This perhaps also explains why my books in school never

mentioned beef in Indian diets.)

 

In the past the work of Prof. Jha has been rubbished by our present

Minister of Disinvestment, Mr. Arun Shourie, who in his avatar as a

selective destroyer of fallacies has pejoratively dismissed such

research as the doing of "Marxists". Ironically, it was not Marxist

historians who brought to light the presence of beef in ancient

Indian dietary habits, but Sanskritists like P.V. Kane and

archaeologists/Indologists like H.D. Sankhalia, both far removed from

Marxism, who had studied the scriptures. But our thought police has

no time for such facts. And unless we are willing to know our

history, tolerance of individual food habits will not come easily.

 

That anybody would want Prof. Jha's book banned shows how hostile we

have become towards the expression of facts. The debates on social

customs are potentially so explosive that one has to think twice

before expressing a point of view which is different but not

necessarily hostile. Many of us revere the cow, a practice that has

evolved over the centuries. Many of us also see it differently,

without causing offence to the believers. Both can survive in our

society. But those who think they are our religious and

civilisational guardians think otherwise.

 

C. RAMMANOHAR REDDY

 

from the Hindu -2001

 

 

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, "de_spell_2000" <oiokasti@h...>

wrote:

> I would like to greet everyone in the club and to express my

thoughts

> on this interesting subject.

> There are many postings talking on meat eating and moksha, which I

> couldnt read all (due to limited time)but I read about 6-7 postings.

>

>

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One is food oneself,Not knowing this

If one imagines that one eats it ,

One is consumed by food and then

Becomes but food for an insatiable hunger.

 

 

Sri Ramana once said to one of the ashram cooks: "You must cover your

vegetables when you cook them. Then only will they keep their flavour

and be fit for food. It is the same with the mind. You must put a lid

over it and let it simmer quietly. Then does a man become food fit

for God to eat." (Sampurnamma in: Ramana Smrti, 1st ed.)

 

 

An aversion to the eating of non-vegetarian food began to manifest

itself only after a period of some years. It was to all appearances

sudden. I had developed a distaste for beef much earlier, but fish

and eggs continued to be indispensable items. It was at this time

that I read R. L. Stevenson's Travels in the South Seas. The chapter

on cannibalism and meat eating in general affected me powerfully. And

I found that I could no longer relish non-vegetarian dishes. It was

rather hard at first to enjoy a vegetarian meal. But by and by I felt

quite at home among vegetarian dishes. I must here state that

incidentally my general health improved, and some digestive

complaints I used to have disappeared altogether.

 

-- Light on Path by I.S. Varghese

 

 

Smoking, meat-eating and drinking of liquors make men very irritable.

Therefore, these should be completely abandoned.

 

- Swami Shivananda

 

In another instance, Swami Shivananda advises that giving up of meat

eating, liquor and tobacco are aids in controlling anger.

 

Bhagavan: Meditators must not work too much, nor should they fill

their stomachs with excessive food. The more one fills the stomach,

the lower one¹s mental state becomes. If the stomach is mostly empty,

one will go higher spiritually. One should not tighten the strings of

the veena either too much or too little. The body must be kept like

that.

 

Once a devotee asked Maharshi if one must stick to a vegetarian diet.

Maharshi replied ( I can't trace the exact text and writing from my

memory)

A vegetarian diet is satwic and definitely expedites one's spiritual

progress. If one wishes to achieve quickly, it is definitely better

to switch to a vegetarian diet. However when one reaches a particular

stage, where control is no longer required, then it does not matter

what one eats. But until then a vegetarian diet surely helps.

 

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In this post I'm restraining myself to just quotations. All the

quotations are related to food, and are meant to show that food does

influence the mind, for it's after all mere chemistry. Our body and

mind are nothing but chemistry.

 

We see it in our daily life too. Consumption of alcohol prevents us

from thinking straight, and deludes our mind more than it already is.

Consumption of tea helps in refreshing the mind. garlic is an

aphrodisiac. Curd induces sleep. etc.

 

There is a close relationship between the body and the mind. A sound

body results in a sound mind and vice versa. What we feed in, is what

constitutes the body and conseuquently the mind.

 

More in my next post.

 

Hari Aum !!!

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Agreed. I cant believe diet has no link with sadhna and even meat-

eaters can attain to heights of samadhi

 

Tomorrow somebody will say Drinking has no role in sadhna and any

drunkard or womaniser can attain moksha.

 

There has to be some link between diet and sadhna. As Shri

Radhakutir said, final stage cant be crossed without leaving many

Rajsic/tamsic deeds/diets.

 

Moral values have a role in sadhna ! anybody saying "NO" ?

 

laxman

 

ps: i m myself a non-veg

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Very interesting post. Therefore the fear and the pain the animal goes through

at the time of slaughter must influence the mind of the person who consumes that

flesh. Such a food can never be conducive for spiritual Sadhana, let alone

Moksha.

 

As far as vegitables are concerened, the subtle instruments that register fear

and pain etc. are not developed in them to the same extent as for the animals.

Whatever little Karmic reaction there might be is taken care by offering the

food to the Lord before consuming, by the spiritual seeker. Also fruits and

vegetables are classed as Sattvic whereas meat as Tamsic.

 

Hari Om

radhakutir

 

 

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"s_v_c_s" <no_reply>

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21 November, 2003 6:12 AM

Re: Meat? no thanks!

 

 

> Welcome de_spell_2000. It's really very nice to hear your words of

> wisdom. I agree with you when you say that the thoughts of the

> animal, even the person who cooks it ( be it veg food or non veg

> food) do affect the ones who eat it. For while cooking, a part of

> ourselves , our nature , our thoughts, our emotions and tendencies do

> get into the food. Which is why when different people cook the same

> recipe using the same ingredients, you get diferent tastes.

> --------

> Similarly the thoughts of the animals at the time of death get

> impregnated into it's flesh and inseparable from it. And when people

> eat, it, they eat not only the flesh but also the thoughts associated

> with it.

>

> I'll talk about hte nature of food and how it affects us in my next

> post.

>

> Hari Aum !!!

>

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Interesting thoughts have been presented on this subject, one which

always seems to bring out strong emotions in some people - not quite

sure why that is so! Irrespective of what the thoughts are regarding

this, I fail to understand why one group feel emotionally 'superior"

or spiritually purer than the other; hardly sattwic tendencies.

 

Several thoughts come to my mind on this topic.

 

Diet of vegetables and grains is certainly healthy as compared to a

diet rich in saturated fats, no matter where they come from. It is

also ecologically true, that it takes more land to feed non-

vegetarians (NV) than vegetarians and in an environment of

depreciating nutrients in land for agriculture, producing meat for

consumption is intensifying pressure on our limited resources. At

the same time the increased pressure and intensive cultivation of

land has lead to crops being deficient in essential micro-nutrients,

a basic requirement for our health, and one that has been obtained

from crops in the past. These are facts, being researched and

addressed by world organizations whose mission is to taking care of

feeding the masses of the world.

 

We know that all material is a combination of the Gunas, Tamas,

Rajas and Sattwa, which applies also to foods.

 

Rajasic - Foods that are very hot, bitter, sour, dry, or salty are

rajasic. which "overstimulate (heat) the body, increase activity

levels, and excite the passions, making the mind restless and

uncontrollable". These include hot substances, such as sharp spices

or strong herbs, stimulants, like coffee and tea, fish, eggs, salt

and chocolate. Eating in a hurry is also considered rajasic." Other

foods, include, Onions, Garlic, Hot peppers, Tomatoes, Radishes,

Chilies, Corn, Spices, eggs, and Fish. Tamarind, an important

ingredient in vegetarian cooking is extremely rajasic in nature!

 

Tamasic - Tamasic foods promote heaviness in the body which include

Red meat, Alcohol, Mushrooms, processed foods, Deep-fried and

Fermented foods, Aged foods, like cheese and leftovers. These foods

cause mental dullness, confusion and disorientation as well as

physical lethargy and sluggishness. They also give a violent slant

to the aggressive quality of rajas."

 

Sattwic - Most fruits, nuts and vegetables and milk products

 

Ayurveda advises us to eat to balance Guna combinations and

accordingly increase or decrease appropriate foods.

 

It is well known that our food habits have evolved based on region,

lifestyle needs, availability and climatic conditions, just like

some of our physical characteristics have evolved, like pigmentation

of skin, nasal passages,(longer in cold climates to raise temp of

inhaled air). In the role of hunters and gatherers, our diet was a

certain kind and after fire was discovered it changed the habits of

eating again! Today, the dietary needs of those who are meditating

in caves, or live a life of quiet contemplation are likely to be

different from that of a student involved in heavy mental/physical

activity which in turn is different from a farmer in fields or a

soccer-mom chasing kids and activities in todays Karmic play-ground.

 

Aside from the conscious converts, there are fewer traditionally

vegetarian regions in the world than NV ones, (Are there any aside

from some regions of India?) To categorically state that NV eating

populations of the world are somehow less spiritual, is that not

making a huge inaccurate judgement? Having had the experience of

both Europe and North America, it is our collective understanding

that there are as many compassionate, caring, spiritualy concsious

people living on the fundamental principles of nishkam-Karma and

Bhakti yoga of the traditions in the regions, as there are in the

few traditionally vegetarian regions of the world. It is also our

collective experience that there are as many people soaked in Kama,

Krodha and Lobha etc (Desire, Anger and Greed) and its sub-

categories, in the Vegetarian populations as there are among others.

Neither category of people are perfect, but does food make one more

superior or closer to moksha?

 

It is also true that what we eat effects our mind and body. Energy

which is the ingredient being carried through food, is effected by

all other energy around it. The mental attitudes of the cook, the

environment of the kitchen, are as important as the attitude with

which it is eaten. While many are addressing this consciously these

days, these have been disguised in food-preparation and eating

rituals in the tradition, and is the essence of the goal. Food prep

rituals in our tradtion include food being cooked by "Brahmins" a

rule made at a time when Brahmins were assumed to be and were more

tuned to sattwic practices. Eating rituals are laid out in detail in

Ayurveda, which include prayer offering, silence, chewing etc etc.

Unfortunately rituals when followed without its understanding tend

to lose it value or the ritual itself tends to become the goal and

its purpose lost.

 

What is then the primary objective of food? Providing an indirect

source of Prana untill we are able to live off the direct source

(Light) itself. Individuals are born in environments, - work,

family, region, religion etc according to the karma and the issues

they are to burn out this time. While food is an important tool, is

it the only tool?

 

I personally am involved with numerous NV spiritual seekers who live

a "purer" life in mind body and spirit than many many Vegetarians.

Similarly vegetainism hasn't cleared many many people of there deep

seated anger, rage, insecurities, manipulative and abusive

behaviors. It is as common to find people using so-called sattwic

food or words (parroting of scriptures) spit foul gutter behavior,

as it is to find them in those who don't use these sattwic tools.

 

I come from Bengal a primarily fish eating community and have grown

up that way. My personal choice is more vegetables and grain. I am

far from Moksha, and my tools of sadhna include a constant vigil of

my mind and behavior. I have been able to maintain a steady mind in

meditation and in fact have been blessed with healings of many kind.

Instead of parroting holy words, my path includes a constant gauging

of myself - where I am in my anger-desire-greed-jealousy-

manipulative behavior patterns (kleshas); What company do I keep and

do I support this kind of behavior directly or indirectly? A sadhak

is better served by looking into their selves, and ask such

questions. Even if they don't tell the truth to others, it is hard

to lie to one's heart!!

 

Forcing ones mind into one specific tool of sadhna through argument,

guilt, judgement, berating others doesn't help; practicing

principles of spiritual living takes one through the required

journey- it is automatic.

 

My Gurus have taught me ... Take care of living the principles

Today, Moksha will take care of itself.

 

 

A member sent me the following quote -

 

"Eating non-vegetarian food, does it interrupt my spiritual

advancement and getting the blessings of God? Please explain with an

example?

 

My dear friend

No it does not matter if you eat non-vegetarian or vegetarian food

only. What matters is are you having any disturbances about it in

your mind? Don't have any thoughts against it. What is more

important is you don't force your views on other about the eating

the non-vegetarian food. You eat if you please but don't force

others about it. It will hamper your own spiritual progress. Because

the progress is to accept the whole world as it is.

 

As regards the example I don't want to quote as it not necessary.

Spiritual practice is not a mimicry to be followed as what others

have done. Your own firm convictions will alone help you to live

your path.

 

Lots of love...Anubhavananda""

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

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Thank you Respected Tatwamasi for your post - on the Rajasik, Swattik

and Tamasik foods.

 

But you know our life is pre-destined.

 

While I was taking my yoga lessons I asked Guruji that what food

should I take.Guruji said food must be to my choice.

 

As a soldier cannot fight and live on sattwik food like fruits and

vegetables.

 

Food habits cannot contaminate our soul. It is our desires that

contaminate our soul.

 

So our Sadhana is for assessing our desires and channelling it to

sattwik path. food is not a barrier to the path of Mokshya.

 

As it is predestined that where I have taken birth, what type of job

i will do and for that what type of food will be necessary for me to

take.

 

I do agree with you my Guruji also taught me to "Take care of living

the principles Today, Moksha will take care of itself."

with regards.

 

nirbanam

 

 

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