Guest guest Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Dear Shubhanan You have brought up an important aspect of sadhna, especially in today's information age. Personally I love quotations and parables. Sages, Rishis, Saints, Gurus, Swami/Swaminis all (each at different levels and topics) are able to present complex concepts using simple words, having had the direct experience of what they are talking about. Not only are we dealing with an attempt to describe a phenomenon which can only be experienced, the inadequacy of our language makes any attempt to explain even more complicated. As we know, this has lead to summaries and explanations, and summaries and explanations and discources of previous summaries and explanations. In this scenario, simple comprehensive words spoken by those who have the knowledge and wisdom helps in giving, if only, a glimpse of what one is talking about. The problem arises in HOW we use this tool of spiritual growth. INFORMATION IS TRANSFORMED TO KNOWLEDGE/WISDOM (Gyana) ONLY THROUGH DILIGENT PRACTICE of the INFORMATION. Genuine attempts towards application of principles we learn at first stage as information, triggers personal obstacles, issues etc, and as one works through them, one is able to imbibe the words. This is no simple process, but who said sadhana is simple? As is well known, though often unacknowledged, information is not Gyana. And in today's information age where the info guru is "GOOGLE.COM", information is even more freely available without much personal study. Unlike learning from Gurus, such information may be biased, inaccurate, or limited or simply misinterpreted due to the consciouness of the writer. Thus we have millions of religious sites, each summarizing, quoting, paraphrazing texts, or paraphrasing other such sites. On the surface it would appear that there is a huge rise of spirituality in the world, but if we dig deeper we see a rise in Information NOT Knowledge. In such cases, the wonderful tool of quotations becomes parroting (same for blind practice of rituals), and loses it purpose. This pattern throws light on why there is often a huge dichotomy between the quotes used and/or rituals performed by a person, and his/her behavior and actions in the karmic world. No doubt, simple listening or reading, is certainly of some value; one's mind is occupied with higher order thoughts at least for few moments. Like a tuning fork, positive thoughts help attune one's energy to more and more subtler levels. Teamed with karma yoga, it is an important phase of spiritual evolution. However, without application, such attunement tends to last momentarily. This plays into our journey to spiritual evolvement perfectly. As we know, Gyana Yoga, without its restraining hand of genuine practice of Bhakti (surrender, humility, deference to a higher authority) works its tricks on the ego, the little self, which is always waiting in the sidelines to sabotage any efforts being made towards its demise!!!! Yogis who present the path of genuine Gyana, may not demonstrate the maudlin shows of devotion or even sycophancy, but they have a inherent sense of "knowing" and surrender of the ego "i" to the Higher SELF "I" which is Demonstrated in their thoughts, actions and behavior. As long as one is manifested in finite form, this surrender is absolutely imperative for any progress. Therefore, quotations is a very effective and great tool for spiritual practice when it is accompanied by sincere efforts to understand, process, and apply what is being stated, without allowing it to inflate one's ego! _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma post 5424 lotuswithin <no_reply> wrote: > I would like to raise this issue for discussion in a later post: >How far can qouting great figures take us? Isn't it necessary to >gain a first hand experience before one can use it, or atleast some >amount of questioning the idea before accepting it. Usually we tend >to accept an idea if it is said by a great figure. Maybe some > elaboration is necessary on the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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