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Dear JosephJi,

 

Thanks for you reply.

Yes. There is a life in vegetables but their

consciousness is negligible as compared to animals.

They don't feel pain like animals.

 

Yes I also agree that some class of people can eat

meat because they are meant for that like Chandalas

eat dog meat and mlecchas eat other meat.

 

There are also greate kshatriya king like Maharaja

Parikshit (Son of Abhimanyu) who warned Kali (Sinfull

Kaliyuga purusha) for killing cow. You can find it in

Srimad bhagvatam.. Then the demon asked where should I

go then four places are awarded to him Illicit sex,

Meat eating, Gambling, and Intoxication.

 

Also in bhagavad geeta you can find that the basic

qualification to become a devotee of Lord Krishna is

to refrain from these four things. And we have already

discussed that Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva and

non-different.

 

It is a kaliyuga.. in previous yuga it could be ok to

kill animals for sacrifice but not in kaliyuga.

 

It is not a question of Shaivism or Jainism it is a

question of not killing animals unnecessary.

 

If you read bhagavad geeta there is verse.

Patram Pushpam phalam toyam....

 

Means lord says one can offer me a leave,flower,fruit

and water by love and I will accept it. Lord krishna

doesn't say that you offer me flesh. NO never...

 

So veg food offered to the lord and then taken

nullifies the sin of killing plants.

 

Lord krishna declares in bhagavad geeta that if one

gives up the above mentioned 4 sinfull activities then

he is a saintly person. There is no question of

Brahmana, Vaishya etc... Now a days I have seen

Brahmin eating flesh and Shudra following regulative

princinpals.. Its Kaliyuga... So we should think of

kaliyuga and should not adopt things of other yugas.

 

In Jainism they have a concept that the soul size is

equal to body size. Which is totally wrong. In Geeta

and bhagavatam the soul size is 1/10000 of the tip of

the hair. So jainism concept is unacceptable.

 

Christen says Thou shall not kill is one of the ten

commandments but they have modified it that One should

not kill humans, Animals can be killed because they

dont have soul. See how its going on in Kaliyuga..

Very sad.

 

So Bhagavad geeta has got complete knowledge and again

I am saying Lord Shiva and Krishna are non-different.

They are same supreme. So Both Vaishnava and

Shaivaites should accept this fact.

 

Aplologies if any offenses commited..

 

Ys,

Nilesh

 

 

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Hello friends - looks like we are once again entangled in a discussion about

a peripheral topic in relation to the central theme of this forum which is

Rudraksha. Forums about the merits of this or that diet abound, but this

forum is the only one I am aware of that is specifically focused on

Rudraksha. I am suggesting that we bring the discussion back to that theme

and leave the issues of diet behind.

 

I am in the process of exploring Rudraksha remedies for Kuja Dosha (Mars

affliction) which is so prevalent in people astrological charts and is the

main reason why Indian parents have charts cast for their children.

Kuja Dosha occurs when Mars is placed in the 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th

houses of the horoscope. In such cases, marriage and relationship is under

disturbed influence. If neither partner has Kuja Dosha or if both have it,

then it is OK, but if one has it and the other does not, then it often

indicates the probability of major problems.

 

A Rudraksha remedy for Kuja Dosha could be a mala of 3-mukhi beads along

with red coral, to balance the Mars energies in the partner who actually has

Kuja Dosha, but would only be safe to wear for those with Aries, Cancer,

Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius and Pisces ascendents. For others, it would not

be advisable to wear any coral at all.

 

So, I am looking at creating an alternative for Taurus, Gemini, Virgo,

Libra, Carpicorn and Aquarius ascendents using the 3-mukhi beads along with

sphatik and 2-mukhi beads. The logic with sphatik is that as a gem for

Venus, the polar opposite of Mars, it would tend to balance that energy when

Mars is malefic. The 2-mukhi beads for the Moon would add emotional and

relational harmony. I will present this to Ms. Neeta and DharmaDev and see

if we can offer a "Kuja Dosha" mala for everyone to bring balance to this

difficult area of human experience.

 

love,

alan

 

 

 

 

 

>Nilesh <nilesh_chandode

>

>

>Re: RBSC : Meat Eating

>Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Dear JosephJi,

>

>Thanks for you reply.

>Yes. There is a life in vegetables but their

>consciousness is negligible as compared to animals.

>They don't feel pain like animals.

>

>Yes I also agree that some class of people can eat

>meat because they are meant for that like Chandalas

>eat dog meat and mlecchas eat other meat.

>

>There are also greate kshatriya king like Maharaja

>Parikshit (Son of Abhimanyu) who warned Kali (Sinfull

>Kaliyuga purusha) for killing cow. You can find it in

>Srimad bhagvatam.. Then the demon asked where should I

>go then four places are awarded to him Illicit sex,

>Meat eating, Gambling, and Intoxication.

>

>Also in bhagavad geeta you can find that the basic

>qualification to become a devotee of Lord Krishna is

>to refrain from these four things. And we have already

>discussed that Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva and

>non-different.

>

>It is a kaliyuga.. in previous yuga it could be ok to

>kill animals for sacrifice but not in kaliyuga.

>

>It is not a question of Shaivism or Jainism it is a

>question of not killing animals unnecessary.

>

>If you read bhagavad geeta there is verse.

>Patram Pushpam phalam toyam....

>

>Means lord says one can offer me a leave,flower,fruit

>and water by love and I will accept it. Lord krishna

>doesn't say that you offer me flesh. NO never...

>

>So veg food offered to the lord and then taken

>nullifies the sin of killing plants.

>

>Lord krishna declares in bhagavad geeta that if one

>gives up the above mentioned 4 sinfull activities then

>he is a saintly person. There is no question of

>Brahmana, Vaishya etc... Now a days I have seen

>Brahmin eating flesh and Shudra following regulative

>princinpals.. Its Kaliyuga... So we should think of

>kaliyuga and should not adopt things of other yugas.

>

>In Jainism they have a concept that the soul size is

>equal to body size. Which is totally wrong. In Geeta

>and bhagavatam the soul size is 1/10000 of the tip of

>the hair. So jainism concept is unacceptable.

>

>Christen says Thou shall not kill is one of the ten

>commandments but they have modified it that One should

>not kill humans, Animals can be killed because they

>dont have soul. See how its going on in Kaliyuga..

>Very sad.

>

>So Bhagavad geeta has got complete knowledge and again

>I am saying Lord Shiva and Krishna are non-different.

>They are same supreme. So Both Vaishnava and

>Shaivaites should accept this fact.

>

>Aplologies if any offenses commited..

>

>Ys,

>Nilesh

>

>

>=====

>- Nilesh D. Chandode,

>

>

>

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>

 

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, "Alan Scherr"

 

Alan's right. Time to get back on track, in the discussion.

 

I would LOVE to see a special manglik mala made available. I am a

manglik. Until I got it under control, it coused me a lot of

heartache. According to the Indian mantrimonial boards, a lot of young

people are worried about Kuja dosha harming their marriages, or

limiting their matrimonial options.

 

Love, K.

 

 

<source311@h...> wrote:

> Hello friends - looks like we are once again entangled in a

discussion about

> a peripheral topic in relation to the central theme of this forum

which is

> Rudraksha. Forums about the merits of this or that diet abound, but

this

> forum is the only one I am aware of that is specifically focused on

> Rudraksha. I am suggesting that we bring the discussion back to

that theme

> and leave the issues of diet behind.

>

> I am in the process of exploring Rudraksha remedies for Kuja Dosha

(Mars

> affliction) which is so prevalent in people astrological charts and

is the

> main reason why Indian parents have charts cast for their children.

> Kuja Dosha occurs when Mars is placed in the 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or

12th

> houses of the horoscope. In such cases, marriage and relationship

is under

> disturbed influence. If neither partner has Kuja Dosha or if both

have it,

> then it is OK, but if one has it and the other does not, then it

often

> indicates the probability of major problems.

>

> A Rudraksha remedy for Kuja Dosha could be a mala of 3-mukhi beads

along

> with red coral, to balance the Mars energies in the partner who

actually has

> Kuja Dosha, but would only be safe to wear for those with Aries,

Cancer,

> Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius and Pisces ascendents. For others, it

would not

> be advisable to wear any coral at all.

>

> So, I am looking at creating an alternative for Taurus, Gemini,

Virgo,

> Libra, Carpicorn and Aquarius ascendents using the 3-mukhi beads

along with

> sphatik and 2-mukhi beads. The logic with sphatik is that as a gem

for

> Venus, the polar opposite of Mars, it would tend to balance that

energy when

> Mars is malefic. The 2-mukhi beads for the Moon would add emotional

and

> relational harmony. I will present this to Ms. Neeta and DharmaDev

and see

> if we can offer a "Kuja Dosha" mala for everyone to bring balance to

this

> difficult area of human experience.

>

> love,

> alan

>

>

>

>

>

> >Nilesh <nilesh_chandode>

> >

> >

> >Re: RBSC : Meat Eating

> >Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >Dear JosephJi,

> >

> >Thanks for you reply.

> >Yes. There is a life in vegetables but their

> >consciousness is negligible as compared to animals.

> >They don't feel pain like animals.

> >

> >Yes I also agree that some class of people can eat

> >meat because they are meant for that like Chandalas

> >eat dog meat and mlecchas eat other meat.

> >

> >There are also greate kshatriya king like Maharaja

> >Parikshit (Son of Abhimanyu) who warned Kali (Sinfull

> >Kaliyuga purusha) for killing cow. You can find it in

> >Srimad bhagvatam.. Then the demon asked where should I

> >go then four places are awarded to him Illicit sex,

> >Meat eating, Gambling, and Intoxication.

> >

> >Also in bhagavad geeta you can find that the basic

> >qualification to become a devotee of Lord Krishna is

> >to refrain from these four things. And we have already

> >discussed that Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva and

> >non-different.

> >

> >It is a kaliyuga.. in previous yuga it could be ok to

> >kill animals for sacrifice but not in kaliyuga.

> >

> >It is not a question of Shaivism or Jainism it is a

> >question of not killing animals unnecessary.

> >

> >If you read bhagavad geeta there is verse.

> >Patram Pushpam phalam toyam....

> >

> >Means lord says one can offer me a leave,flower,fruit

> >and water by love and I will accept it. Lord krishna

> >doesn't say that you offer me flesh. NO never...

> >

> >So veg food offered to the lord and then taken

> >nullifies the sin of killing plants.

> >

> >Lord krishna declares in bhagavad geeta that if one

> >gives up the above mentioned 4 sinfull activities then

> >he is a saintly person. There is no question of

> >Brahmana, Vaishya etc... Now a days I have seen

> >Brahmin eating flesh and Shudra following regulative

> >princinpals.. Its Kaliyuga... So we should think of

> >kaliyuga and should not adopt things of other yugas.

> >

> >In Jainism they have a concept that the soul size is

> >equal to body size. Which is totally wrong. In Geeta

> >and bhagavatam the soul size is 1/10000 of the tip of

> >the hair. So jainism concept is unacceptable.

> >

> >Christen says Thou shall not kill is one of the ten

> >commandments but they have modified it that One should

> >not kill humans, Animals can be killed because they

> >dont have soul. See how its going on in Kaliyuga..

> >Very sad.

> >

> >So Bhagavad geeta has got complete knowledge and again

> >I am saying Lord Shiva and Krishna are non-different.

> >They are same supreme. So Both Vaishnava and

> >Shaivaites should accept this fact.

> >

> >Aplologies if any offenses commited..

> >

> >Ys,

> >Nilesh

> >

> >

> >=====

> >- Nilesh D. Chandode,

> >

> >

> >

> >The New with improved product search

> >

>

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