Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Bhagavad-gita As It Is Ch. 2 Text 9-10-11-12 Dear Friends and Members,Please Accept my most Humble Obiesance! Now we are begining ,to get to the Heart of The Gita,Where Arguna Loses all composure, and Surrenders to His dear Friend, Krsna,Who Is the Supreme Personality of Godhead,and the Supreme Guru! He Says, After seeing His reletives on the Battlefield,Wanting to Kill Him,"I can Find No means to drive away this grief, which is drying up My Senses!I will not be able to destroy it,even if I win an unrivalled Kindom on Earth,with Soverignty like the demigods in heaven." These Verses Are dedicated to Armand Prabhu,Who is making Great Progress ,in understanding Krsna, to be God,and to my dear Friend and Godbrother, Visnuanandana Dasa, who has aways gave me wonderful support, in Preaching Krsna Consciousness,and has inspired Me, to distribute, Srila Prabhupada's Original Bhagavad Gita as it is ,Unchanged ,from the 1972-73 copy of Srila Prabhupada's Translation of the Gita,Hare Krsna! Contents of the Gita Summarized Text 9 sanjaya uvaca evam uktva hrsikesam gudakeasah parantapah na yotsya iti govindam uktva tusnim babhuva ha sanjayah uvaca— Sanjaya said; evam— thus; uktva— speaking; hrsikesam unto Krsna the master of the senses; gudakesah—Arjuna, the master at curbing ignorance; parantapah—the chastiser of the enemies; na yotsye— I shall not fight; iti—thus; govindam—unto Krsna the giver of pleasure; uktva—saying; tusnim—silent babhuva—became; ha—certainly. TRANSLATION Sanjaya said: Having spoken thus, Arjuna, chastiser of enemies, told Krsna, "Govinda, I shall not fight," and fell silent. PURPORT Dhrtarastra must have been very glad to understand that Arjuna was not going to fight and was instead leaving the battlefield for the begging profession. But Sanjaya disappointed him again in relating that Arjuna was competent to kill his enemies (parantapah). Although Arjuna was for the time being overwhelmed with false grief due to family affection, he surrendered unto Krsna the supreme spiritual master, as a disciple. This indicated that he would soon be free from the false lamentation resulting from family affection and would he enlightened with perfect knowledge of self-realization, or Krsna consciousness, and would then surely fight. Thus Dhrtarastra's joy would he frustrated, since Arjuna would be enlightened. by Krsna and would fight to the end. TEXT 10 tam uvaca hrsikesah prahasann iva bharata senayor ubhayor madhye visidantam idam vacah tam—unto him; uvaca—said; hrsikesah—the master of the senses, prahasan—smiling; iva—like that; bharata—O Dhrtarastra, descendant of Bharata; senayoh—of the armies; ubhayoh—of both parties; madhye— between; visidantam—unto the lamenting one; idam—the following; vacah— words. TRANSLATION 0 descendant of Bharata, at that time Krsna, smiling, in the midst of both the armies, spoke the following words to the grief-stricken Arjuna. PURPORT The talk was going on between intimate friends, namely the Hrsikesa and the Gudakesa. As friends, both of them were on the same level, but one of them voluntarily became a student of the other. Krsna was smiling because a friend had chosen to become a disciple. As Lord of all, He is always in the superior position as the master of everyone, and yet the Lord accepts one who wishes to be a friend, a son, a lover or a devotee, or who wants Him in such a role. But when He was accepted as the master, He at once assumed the role and talked with the disciple like the master— with gravity, as it is required. It appears that the talk between the master and the disciple was openly exchanged in the presence of both armies so that all were benefitted. So the talks of Bhagavad-gita are not for any particular person, society, or community, but they are for all, and friends or enemies are equally entitled to hear them. TEXT 11 sri bhagavan uvaca asocyan anvasocas tvam prajna-vadams ca bhasase gatasun agatasums ca nanusocanti panditah sri bhagavan uvaca—the Supreme Personality of Godhead said; asocydn— that which is not worthy of lamentation; anvasocah—you are lamenting; tvam—you; prajana-vadan—learned talks; ca—also; bhasase—speaking; gata— lost; asun—life; agata—not past; asun—life; ca—also; na—never; anusocanti— lament; panditah—the learned. TRANSLATION The Blessed Lord said: While speaking learned words, you are mourning for what is not worthy of grief. Those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead. PURPORT The Lord at once took the position of the teacher and chastised the student, calling him, indirectly, a fool. The Lord said, you are talking like a learned man, but you do not know that one who is learned—one who knows what is body and what is soul—does not lament for any stage of the body, neither in the living nor in the dead condition. As it will be explained in later chapters, it will be clear that knowledge means to know matter and spirit and the controller of both. Arjuna argued that religious principles should be given more importance than politics or sociology, but he did not know that knowledge of matter, soul and the Supreme is even more important than religious formularies. And, because he was lacking in that knowledge, he should not have posed himself as a very learned man. As he did not happen to be a very learned man, he was consequently lamenting for something which was unworthy of lamentation. The body is born and is destined to be vanquished today or tomorrow; therefore the body is not as important as the soul. One who knows this is actually learned, and for him there is no cause for lamentation, regardless of the condition of the material body. TEXT 12 na tv evaham jatu nasam na tvam neme janadhipah na caiva na bhavisyamah sarve vayam atah param na—never; tu—but; eva—certainly; aham— I; jatu— become; na—never; asam—existed; na—it is not so; tvam—yourself; na—not; ime—all these; janadhipah—kings; na—never; ca—also; eva—certainly; na—not like that; bhavisyamah—shall exist; sarve—all of us; vayam—we; atah param—here after. TRANSLATION Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. PURPORT In the Vedas, in the Katha Upanisad as well as in the Svetasvatara Upanisad, it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the maintainer of innumerable living entities, in terms of their different situations according to individual work and reaction of work. That Supreme Personality of Godhead is also, by His plenary portions, alive in the heart of every living entity. Only saintly persons who can see, within and without, the same Supreme Lord, can actually attain to perfect and eternal peace. nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman tam atmastham ye'nupasyanti dhiras tesam santih sasvati netaresam. (Katha 2.2.13) The same Vedic truth given to Arjuna is given to all persons in the world who pose themselves as very learned but factually have but a poor fund of knowledge. The Lord says clearly that He Himself, Arjuna, and all the kings who are assembled on the battlefield, are eternally individual beings and that the Lord is eternally the maintainer of the individual living entities both in their conditioned as well as in their liberated situations. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme individual person, and Arjuna, the Lord's eternal associate, and all the kings assembled there are individual, eternal persons. It is not that they did not exist as individuals in the past, and it is not that they will not remain eternal persons. Their individuality existed in the past, and their individuality will continue in the future without interruption. Therefore, there is no cause for lamentation for anyone. The Mayavadi theory that after liberation the individual soul, separated by the covering of maya or illusion, will merge into the impersonal Brahman and lose its individual existence is not supported herein by Lord Krsna the supreme authority. Nor is the theory that we only think of individuality in the conditioned state supported herein. Krsna clearly says herein that in the future also the individuality of the Lord and others, as it is confirmed in the Upanisads, will continue eternally. This statement of Krsna is authoritative because Krsna cannot be subject to illusion. If individuality is not a fact, then Krsna would not have stressed it so much —even for the future. The Mayavadi may argue that the individuality spoken of by Krsna is not spiritual, but material. Even accepting the argument that the individuality is material, then how can one distinguish Krsna's individuality? Krsna affirms His individuality in the past and confirms His individuality in the future also. He has confirmed His individuality in many ways, and impersonal Brahman has been declared to be subordinate to Him. Krsna has maintained spiritual individuality all along; if He is accepted as an ordinary conditioned soul in individual consciousness, then His Bhagavad-gita has no value as authoritative scripture. A common man with all the four defects of human frailty is unable to teach that which is worth hearing. The Gita is above such literature. No mundane book compares with the Bhagavad-gita. When one accepts Krsna as an ordinary man, the Gita loses all importance. The Mayavadi argues that the plurality mentioned in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But previous to this verse such a bodily conception is already condemned. After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was it possible for Krsna to place a conventional proposition on the body again? Therefore, individuality is maintained on spiritual grounds and is thus confirmed by great acaryas like Sri Ramanuja and others. It is clearly mentioned in many places in the Gita that this spiritual individuality is understood by those who are devotees of the Lord. Those who are envious of Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead have no bona fide access to the great literature. The nondevotee's approach to the teachings of the Gita is something like bees licking on a bottle of honey. One cannot have a taste of honey unless one opens the bottle. Similarly, the mysticism of the Bhagavad-gita can be understood only by devotees, and no one else can taste it, as it is stated in the Fourth Chapter of the book. Nor can the Gita be touched by persons who envy the very existence of the Lord. Therefore, the Mayavadi explanation of the Gita is a most misleading presentation of the whole truth. Lord Caitanya has forbidden us to read commentations made by the Mayavadis and warns that one who takes to such an understanding of the Mayavadi philosophy loses all power to understand the real mystery of the Gita. If individuality refers to the empirical universe, then there is no need of teaching by the Lord. The plurality of the individual soul and of the Lord is an eternal fact, and it is confirmed by the Vedas as above mentioned. Please Look at my HERO Web Site,where you will get Access ,to Most, of the Web sites ,Krsna has Allowed Me to Bring You All,who have Been so Kind,and Pataint,with Me, starting The Gita from the Begining,so it is easy to understand what Led up, to Krsna ,Speaking the Bhagavad- Gita to Arguna,For all our wellfare! KRSNA THE MATCHLESS GIFT http://www.angelfire.com/ks2/jaikrsna This page is Like a porthole, to All my other Krsna Pages ,which all Have Beautifull Pictures of Krsna,And Srila Prabhupada, Chanting the Maha Mantra,(Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare) Thank you very Much for reading this,Your Servant Jaya Kesava Dasa JAI KRSNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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