Doubts reg Facts/ myths??

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Pranaams,

 

I have some doubts regarding the facts/myths I have

come across during my browsing thro various materials,

websites.

 

Please clarify as i doubt the authenticity of the

facts published there.

 

1) I've read that great saints exhaust their karmas

quickly... So that is the reason most saints have died

un-natural death after suffering from some incurable

diseases.

Eg: Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Vivekananda, Ramana

How far is it true?

 

2) Does Some1 have authenticate information regarding

jagadguru sri adi shankaracharya's death. I've read

that he jumped off a cliff in kailash.

 

3) Swami Vivekananda was an overeater and chain

smoker.

Is it true???

 

4) The story of valmiki. That a former dacoit chanted

"mara" instead of "rama"... I saw some sanskrit

professor saying that this have no evidence in

ramayana. He also said valmiki is the pen-name or

kavya nama of a well versed poet called prachethasa!

How far is this true?

 

5)Sri Veda Vyasa wrote mahabharatha. Bhagavath geetha

is also part of it. Vyasa has compiled all this.

What enabled him to do so?

 

I am just curious and want to make sure I am not

misinformed. Thereby avoid passing any wrong

information to next generation.

Please clarify.

 

Hari Om.

Pradeep

 

PS: Many thanks to all for insights on japa mala!!

 

 

 

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> 1) I've read that great saints exhaust their karmas

> quickly... So that is the reason most saints have died

> un-natural death after suffering from some incurable

> diseases.

> Eg: Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Vivekananda, Ramana

> How far is it true?

 

Thanx pradeep bhattji for thoughtful questions. The great

saints (like Paramhansa,vivekananda etc) are born for a purpose.

Their body is not for producing new chain of karma and since they

have to get Moksha after that birth, Mother Natures collects all left

over sins of their previous births, and finishes those bad karma in

one go thus giving them un-natural death. Like paramhansa died of

throat cancer, swami dayananda by poisoning and shri Shankracharya by

cancer of the rectum. Even in Mahabharata Bhishma had to suffer the

pains of thousands of arrows for many days to finish the left over

bad karmas of previous births. The moment the purpose of their birth

is fulfilled, their body is forcefully taken by Nature. This is one

of the explanations there may be other logical explanations too.

 

 

> 2) Does Some1 have authenticate information regarding

> jagadguru sri adi shankaracharya's death. I've read

> that he jumped off a cliff in kailash.

 

As far as I know he died of an incurable ulcer in the rectum.

 

> 3) Swami Vivekananda was an overeater and chain

> smoker.

> Is it true???

 

It is baseless truth. It was in fact Paramhansa who smoke Hukka

and was fond of eatables. Paramhansa explained to vivekananda once

about his eating habits. He said," I have all the desire chains

broken which bind my soul to the body. Since there is lot of work

still to be done, i intentionally keep this habit of loving food, so

that the soul does not leave the body prematurely"

 

> 4) The story of valmiki. That a former dacoit chanted

> "mara" instead of "rama"... I saw some sanskrit

> professor saying that this have no evidence in

> ramayana. He also said valmiki is the pen-name or

> kavya nama of a well versed poet called prachethasa!

> How far is this true?

 

History facts may be altogether different from reality. Ramayana

remains Ramayna whether written by Valmiki or XYZ.

 

> 5)Sri Veda Vyasa wrote mahabharatha. Bhagavath geetha

> is also part of it. Vyasa has compiled all this.

> What enabled him to do so?

 

????? Question not understood !!

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Pranaams,

 

Thanks for the answers..

My last question was:

How did vedavyasa compile mahabharatha? From where did

he get all the inputs from?

There is an inherent assumption made here by me that,

mahabharatha indeed happened exactly as narrated, all

things were true, and the gita part of mahabharatha

indeed were words of Bhagavan krishna.

 

Now, Veda Vyasa writes Mahabharatha and how did he

come to know all about this in detail.

 

Please forgive me for my ignorance. But for me its

just not clear about how mahabharatha as an epic was

created.

 

Hari Om.

Pradeep

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, "Pradeep Bhat \(Bangalore\)"

<p_r_a_d_e_e_p_7> wrote:

 

dear pradeep the myth is that Maharishi vedvyasa wrote Mahabharata

in one go with the help of Lord Ganesha in a cave somewhere near

Badrinath Dhaam. It is still there and called Vyas Gufa. For a sage

of his status it would not have beeen difficult to foresee the coming

events.

 

even otherwise if we take him a simple historian, he was linked

with the Kauravas from the beginning. He was son of Satyawati and

was biological father of both Kauravas and Pandavas. He was well

aware of all the incidents happening in his family hence was able to

give details of Mahabharata.

 

About Gita some say Krishna only uttered a few words about Karma

yoga and then showed his Viraat Rupa (Universal form) to Arjuna and

thus he came out of Moha. It is also said that Shri Shankracharya

added further chapters to Gita addition Sankhya yoga and other

things. Whatever is the case, i feel it is Krishna finally who

taught gita either as Krishna or later through the mouth of

Shankracharya. Krishna is the only teacher to the mankind and it is

He who guides through sages and gurus too.

 

To understand Krishna is to understand the core of Santan

Dharma. Krishan's teachings are not bound by boundaries of

countries, caste or religion but are applicable to whole human race

anywhere in the Universe.