The Divine watches over your progress!

[Guest guest]

The Divine lets you into his secrets at the appropriate time,

however hard you strive to attain it!

well, that is what i think, judging from my experience.

i had known about the tamil siddha tradition (from a member of a

family that is connected to the tradition) and also the fact that

the tamil siddhas and the great sages in north india and tibet could

be the same men. but the fact is, it never really sank into my mind.

then came my meeting with tatwamasi in delhi, and she talked abt the

book 'babaji and the 18 siddhas'. i knew about the book but

somethign in me had prevented me from reading it. after my talk with

tatwamasi, i went and bought that book! reading it was a revelation.

suddenly many things that i had read about or been told about

earlier fell into perspective. several layers of doubts cleared at

once. and i became more aware of my 'mission' in life. i am sure if

i had read this book maybe a few months back, it could not have

wrought so many changes in me.

in short, the book came to me at the 'right' time! (what else could

explain my 'revulsion' for that book earlier:)

wasn't tatwamasi's coming to delhi wonderfully timed to introduce me

to the next stage in my spiritual life?

[Guest guest]

Namaste!

 

I admire your enthousiasm a lot mysticindian. Actually enthousiasm is

a greek word produced by the words: "en theo" and it means :"near/in

God". Some books can be very inspiring such as "Autobiography of a

yogi" by Yogananda.

 

I think we naturally get attracted to the objects and the people who

match our own vibrations and thoughts. Nature has amazing mechanisms

and it obeys one of the laws of existence, which is progress. So even

the universe schemes for us when we want something truly, as Paolo

Cohelo said in "Alchemist".

 

Now coming to that book about Babaji. I have read the book myself 4

years ago and I found it also very inspiring. I was surprised when a

friend explained to me how many of the things described in there

might not be true. During the past years, I have heard similar things

from other sources too. And I really dont know what to believe. The

truth is that rarely will we find historical proof in such books. And

this was one of the reasons that I quited Kriya yoga (i was

initiated) and abandoned any research and discussion on this topic.

Because I experienced a lot of negativity and fanatism about kriya

yoga in the internet.I am not sure why this is so. Maybe because

kriya became so popular and suddenly so many gurus cropped out?

 

However, I find that such a book does serve its purpose when it

inspires seekers of truth and creates feelings of divine devotion. In

the end it doesnt make much difference to us if its a myth or a

reality, because it cannot affect a devoted mind in any way.

 

Om nama shivaya

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I think u should go back to kriya. it is no excuse to quit the

practise coz of false gurus.

the kriya should be your guru. and we dont need to research the

truths and untruths that float around the internet. that research

should be done in our minds. No, in our meditations after getting

over the mind. for, it is in the nature of the mind (a product of

the duality-filled world) to harbour doubts about anything.

So, forward!

OM

 

, "Angie" <oiokasti@h...> wrote:

> Namaste!

>

> I admire your enthousiasm a lot mysticindian. Actually enthousiasm

is

> a greek word produced by the words: "en theo" and it

means :"near/in

> God". Some books can be very inspiring such as "Autobiography of a

> yogi" by Yogananda.

>

> I think we naturally get attracted to the objects and the people

who

> match our own vibrations and thoughts. Nature has amazing

mechanisms

> and it obeys one of the laws of existence, which is progress. So

even

> the universe schemes for us when we want something truly, as Paolo

> Cohelo said in "Alchemist".

>

> Now coming to that book about Babaji. I have read the book myself

4

> years ago and I found it also very inspiring. I was surprised when

a

> friend explained to me how many of the things described in there

> might not be true. During the past years, I have heard similar

things

> from other sources too. And I really dont know what to believe.

The

> truth is that rarely will we find historical proof in such books.

And

> this was one of the reasons that I quited Kriya yoga (i was

> initiated) and abandoned any research and discussion on this

topic.

> Because I experienced a lot of negativity and fanatism about kriya

> yoga in the internet.I am not sure why this is so. Maybe because

> kriya became so popular and suddenly so many gurus cropped out?

>

> However, I find that such a book does serve its purpose when it

> inspires seekers of truth and creates feelings of divine devotion.

In

> the end it doesnt make much difference to us if its a myth or a

> reality, because it cannot affect a devoted mind in any way.

>

> Om nama shivaya

[Guest guest]

I also support mysticindian's view. These world is full of good things as well

as bad things. For some bad elements / fake kriya masters, one should not leave

practice of kriya as it is one of the best yogas available for us.

 

If someone has any problem, he should get it clarified from a competent Acharya

instead of leaving the practice.

 

- joyguru

[Guest guest]

Hi Mysticindian

 

It was a pleasure meeting you too.

 

You have hit on the most important ingredient of one's spiritual

journey. The Universe has a curriculum planned for us (or presented

in a different way, our karmic package has set into motion a

specific curriculum) and I don't think we can change that to a large

extent. This Universe directs us through its variety of instruments

including people, books, circumstances, or events. Whatever it takes

to keep us on the path, and lest we get too comfortable, the path

remains a very dynamic one!

 

The excitement you feel at this event, is one that I have felt many

a time for myself and when I have been used as an instrument with

various friends and fellow travellers. I have met teachers, come

across books, faced events, and have said to myself "where were you

all this time .. I could have saved myself of so much wasted energy

had I been given this information earlier!!"

 

Yes "revulsion", lack of interest, time constraints, lack of

ability, other pressing priorities etc are some of the ways one is

be kept away from something before one is ready to learn a certain

lesson.

 

Re: post 5735 by Angie

 

I have discovered almost every path I have come across has its

detractors. While the internet has brought forth a lot of paths into

the public arena, it has also been the medium for presenting the

greatest negations, contradictions and horror stories to them. Each

path had its height of popularity and then its detractors came along

when many people left. And each path has its fanatics, those who see

nothing else but theirs to be valid like the frog in his well!

 

A far as the book is concerned, while it is hard to prove anything

historically in the Indian context, (including the most scared of

texts), I have read too many references to Babaji and the siddha

group of people from too many different and unrelated sources to

disbelieve what is being said. Babaji is known by different names in

different parts of the country .. and each have experienced him in

different ways. Even if I am not sure whether each and every

historical detail is true, I do know and theoritically it is

possible and wouldn't at all be surprised if it were so. The way I

have handled this dilemma for myself is that if the message rings

true, I absorb it, otherwise I let it be. Furthermore, which

instrument (path) is right for whom again is determined by their

curriculum. Again, situations like disillusionments are often used

by the universe to guide us to where we need to be.

 

Enough sharing for one day..

 

_/\_ tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

PS. I have fallen so far back in my mails and posts that if I wait

to catch up it will take even longer to get back into the stream of

things. I will simply jump into it and address issues as they come

up!

 

, mysticindian <no_reply> wrote:

 

> in short, the book came to me at the 'right' time! (what else

>could explain my 'revulsion' for that book earlier:)

> wasn't tatwamasi's coming to delhi wonderfully timed to introduce

>me to the next stage in my spiritual life?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joyguru and Mysticindian.

 

I apreciate your comments. Kriya yoga is truly a powerful yoga and a

very inspiring path. For me nowadays, its not so much a question of

which path to follow, its rather a question of finding the person who

will inspire me and show me the divine! I strongly believe that there

is a suitable teacher for the suitable student. And that each guru

serves his purpose. The problems start when one meets the unsuitable

for him person. Be that in spirituality, relations and life in

general. As Paolo Cohelo said:"In life, its the meetings and

encounters with people that matter". Most of the sychronicities that

take place, especially in the spiritual life have to do with a book

we read by chance or something that a person explained to us

accidentally. Such are the things that have the power to change our

whole mental, emotional and spiritual set up. And these are often

essential for our taking up sadhana. When it comes to kriya yoga, I

am thankful that I got to know it, as it was a step to my further

understanding. Some of my close friends are kriya yogis and I always

seek their advice. I think its important that we are able to respect

all yogas and paths and try to learn from them.

 

Namaste