Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Some of our sadhakas when gain a little hight in sadhna, become so serious that we cant find happiness on their face. I am sure when God laughed, the universe was created. His laughter is there in the running galaxies, in the dancing trees, in smiling flowers, in thundering clouds, in bursting volcanoes, in restless seas. Our laughter is just a ripple in the silent lake. HIS laughter is the lake itself sans ripples. When he smiles in us, we become spiritual. All fears, all logics, all our hatered, all our sorrows are shattered when his laughter comes to our surface. When i see our saints (so-called) with face so serious as if they have never laughed in many births, i really doubt their spirituality. An Urdu poet has written " Khuda jab husan deta hai....Nazakat aa hi jaati hai ! Kadam ruk-ruk ke chalte hain...kamar bal kha hi jaati hai"....If god give beauty to a girl, she need not learn how to show it...people will know the beauty and love in her from her tenderness, her drunken steps and twisting of her waist. so how come when God has smiled in us, we are making serious and sorry figure...not laughing not making people laugh !!! So let us start laughing today, not our laughter but in tune with the laughter of the God !!! Hari Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 wah wah babaji. now shayari from uma giovinni pyaar ka defination nahin dia jaatha hai....jisko jitna aatha hai woh sirf kiaaa jaatyha hai....... this cup is full and overflowing with love jay kali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Laughing and smiling are two very important things and related very much to the energetical level of our astral and etherical bodies. The nadis often have blockages and that why the energy doesnt flow freely. Smiling and laughing though, have such a great power that make the energy flow freely through the nadis(energy channels). Actually, I believe that this is the origin of the mystical experiences of bliss or ananda. Extremely big amounts of energy, creat such harmonious and blissful feelings that are higher that the feelings of love we get in this world. This is also one of the reasons why people live for loving others, because this devotion concentrates the mind and raises the energy levels. And thats why love makes people softer and better, always smiling. Because it makes them spiritual and opens their channels! And then there is no room for negativity or fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 and I wanted to add, that this is the state (ananda) that yogis are trying to achieve, through pranayama control of energy and other yogic disciplines. These do nothing else than raising the level of energy flow in our bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Namaskaram and Hari Om all, i believe that deep within, the core of our being exists in the mode of happyness. It is not effected by the turmoils that we sometimes face in life. Our Sadhana practice harmonizes all the functions in our body and also all that which we come across in life and it gives us a feeling of inner balance so that we may be fit for life in every way. Bit by bit our Sadhana takes away all the layers of illusion so-to-say that we often harbour within and unravels all that which covers our own ability to perceive the divine Truth - God in our heart. When we realize God and know He is there and understand that our nature is an aspect of His, then we too are in mode of happyness. Many saints are very jolly people. I have met some who crack a lot of jokes and make their deciples very happy and at times convey the deep Truths in a comical way. I believe being happy is our true nature. Hari Om Tat Sat, Haripriya - Deepa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 , Deepa Malavalli <malavallid> wrote: Tks dear deepa for the reply Yes you are right that many of the saints are jolly. This is what i wished to say too. If we have reached to the source of bliss in us, the laughters have to reach the surface. So if we see a babji, all serious never laughing never loving can we say he has not yet reached the truth ? Guru Granthh sahib declares : Sachi Kahun Sun lehu Sabhi Jin Prem kiyo tin hi prabhu payo !! " It is a truth...all listen carefully..... Only those who LOVED reached God " Belated good wishes on the Birthday of Guru Nanak on 26th Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Dear Beirut ka baba, thank you for you comment. I wish to say the following to answer you question: "So if we see a babji, all serious never laughing never loving can we say he has not yet reached the truth?" In the context of my thoughts on the theme "god does not laugh??" I only spoke about the aspect that our true nature is happyness and that we attain true happyness when we are consciously connected to the core of our being which is the abode of divinity. People who are based in the center of their being, live in happyness. Even if they face hardship too. This however does not imply that a person who may seem serious is not happy within or not enlightend. When we meet a Guru he so-to-say shows us a mirror that give us a picture of who we really are, where we are in our spriritual developement etc. This moment can be sometimes hard to take, as a Guru can be very strict. He can demand a lot from us and we may feel a bit uncomfortable. But actually the best Gurus are those who show us the mirror and help us to descard all the impurities within. And if a Guru appears to be very serious, it does not mean that he has no happyness within, does not laugh at all. We cannot know everything about a Guru. Nevertheless even in that seriousness there is joy that is beyond our limited concept of joy or happyness. And Gurus and saints have a very individual way of showing their love, compassion, knowlege and humor etc. Some show us the mirror in a more serious way, other in a more joyfull way. The interesting part about the Guru is that his presence may be silent, but his silence and also physical absense still speaks of joy, love, truth. I have mostly seen tremendoes joy in the faces of Gurus and enlightend people. But what we see is only a reflection of our own mind and what we have experience. Hope this clarifies your question. Hari Om Tat Sat, Haripriya - Deep Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 nowadays it is very hard to find real Guru what i mean our conscious is better guru for all namasivayam --- Deepa Malavalli <malavallid wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 , nama siva <nama_sivam> wrote: > > nowadays it is very hard to find real Guru > what i mean our conscious is better guru > for all > namasivayam > --- Deepa Malavalli <malavallid> wrote: I agree with my fellow sadhaka. Through times endless the wolves have worn the disguise of sheep to misleed those in need of guidance. The guru always lies within, and the fortunate come in contact with the gurudeva who embodies that inner guidance so that they may have no "personal gain", but so that they may help lift the veil off others. As these are all manifestiations from the universal thought; this shows how the macro & microcosm relate. Our own inner thoughts can be very misleading even though ego may tell us it is right. It is also the same in outer life when we become cautious as to who we should listen to, follow, etc. So as we exist within and as the one conciousness may we deal with others as we would our own inner thoughts, because our own thought of existence is a wave of thought from the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent self(waves in the ocean). Please excuse the length of the message. I come from love, I act from love, I am love, I AM. Blessings to you all and may your works prosper, IcapoI (Tyler) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 , Deepa Malavalli <malavallid> wrote: My dear Haripriya, Your thoughts are as beautiful as you name. When you wrote "The interesting part about the Guru is that his presence may be silent, but his silence and also physical absense still speaks of joy, love, truth......what we see is only a reflection of our own mind and what we have experience " you said so many things in one sentences, which perhaps many books cant explain. Now does it mean, if we see sorrow, hatered, anger in other's face...is it possible that it is due to our own reflections. And if we are internally peaceful, and joyous, the other standing before us, frowning/hating/fighting, will be affected ? If it is so it is going to solve the greatest problems of humanity. regards Hope i m not considered a dirty child asking too many questions !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Dear Beirut ka Baba, let me try to answer your question refering to my statement on the idea that we see a reflection of our own mind and what we have experienced. This was your question: ...."if we see sorrow, hatered, anger in other's face...is it possible that it is due to our own reflections. And if we are internally peaceful, and joyous, the other standing before us, frowning/hating/fighting, will be affected ? You quoted my words: "The interesting part about the Guru is that his presence may be silent,but his silence and also physical absense still speaks of joy, love, truth......what we see is only a reflection of our own mind and what we have experience First of all I see two aspects here: 1. That the silence and even the absense of a Guru still speaks. And that his words are woven in a so-to-say tapastry of love, knowingness, compassion, truth and at times they also seem strict. We can perceive that if we are intuned to the Guru, or if our heart and mind are open to the gifts that he has in stock for us. 2. What we perceive is subject to how much we understand, how open we are, in what way we are preconditioned or how the tapastry of our mind is woven. We all have a unique pattern that forms our character and that enables us to either understand more or less or non. It depends on what we have learnt, how we were raised and what we have experienced, how we live and even what we eat. So when we meet a Guru and experience or learn something then our impression somehow tries to match to the pattern that we habour within. Our perceptions can be individually different depending on the conditions that are already there in us. We try to recognize that which is already within us. That is also the reason why some people recognize a Guru, while others don't. But they may recognize an other Guru. It is like being at home with a Guru or feeling at home in a certain religion. That home is already presented in our own tapastry within. So we recognize something or someone whom we already know in a way. But with reference to your question there is a third aspect: And if we are internally peaceful, and joyous, the other standing before us, frowning/hating/fighting, will be affected ? Well here the cosmic law of attraction plays a role. It is true that what we experience hasoften a lot to do with the way we think. We tend to build our outer world according to the way we think. Like if we want to eat some certain food we try to get it. And according to our determination and what we have, we either get it or not. Our determination and also faith in ourselves and what we do makes the cosmic law of attraction either work for us or seemingly against us. We attract that which we invite so to say. When we try to do something that may seem impossible then we may not get it strait away but if we are determined we may still there, because this determination can attract the attention of others who will want to help us. Therefore the cosmic law of atttraction is also expressed in the phrase: "God helps those who help themselves" And God has given us a free will so if we have too many hostile thoughts we meet those with whom we can fight together or fight against. God lets us commit our mistakes, so that we may learn by doing them and eventually evolve. If we have genuine love within then we meet those who want our love or those who are willing to give love too. However sometimes when we are in mode of goodness and love then we sometimes meet people who think we may be kind but unintelligent. Goodness is often misunderstood to be a form of some sort of foolishness. They think they can make a fool of us. But we experience this not because God or nature is unfair, but because being determined is something that has to be practiced and performend with consciouness and we need to be alert. Life and the people we are around test us in many ways. We need to observe our thoughts and actions. Dertermination needs a lot of strength. If we want something but always say "oh I wish I could have this or that" we will most probably not get it, because in teh conditional tense expresses that we don't really believe that we can get what we want. We need to alter our phrase to perhaps " I need this or I am going to see to it that I get this or that". Then the law of attraction works for us. Then things fuse in the way we may need it to accomplish something. However we should never neglect the ethical values in our actions and leave them out of our mind and heart. We should not make the law of attraction work of us is such a way that it may harm an other. That is not what it is there for. The law of attraction is there so that we may achieve our goals but we have to act with ethics. That is why in Yoga they say that we should first master the practice the Yamas ( the regulations as to how we go about with others) and Niyamas (code of conduct for our private life) before we go on to the other desciplines. So I believe if we really practice these values by being in our own workshop every day and working things out that are left undone within us then we can purify ourselves. Slowly but surely we will beautify our own pattern within. It is the divine beauty that comes out when we purify ourselves and this can make our life more fulfilling. But it all depends on how much we have purified ourselves. The world can only be better if everybody works on himself or herself. Spirituality is hard work. And the law of attration is an expression of divine grace. The law of attraction is an expression of God's grace. Hari Om Tat Sat, Hariprya - Deepa / Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 nice thank you namaivayam --- icapoi <icapoi wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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