Uttarayna & Dakshinayana

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, "krsnajoe" <josephfullman@c...>

wrote:

 

Dear krshnajoe,

 

please read again my post !! I have asked you to explain (as per

your faith), the meaning of Uttrayana and Dakshinaya found in Shloka

24,25,26 of Chapter 8th of Bhagwat Gita.

 

I never said you said those words...Bhagwan Krishna said this !!!

 

 

Hari Aum

 

see friends i become a "mean" from an advanced soul in 2

days ?

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Dear Ka-Baba,Please Accept My humble Obeiesances!I dont Understand,As i am

only a child,I never Used the words Uttrayana or Dakshinavana,Nor do i know

Thier Meaning????Are you sure I wrote what You are Talking About,Because I

sincerely dont understand,And If I said it, Please Quote me,so I

doundrrstand??!Please??

""Here Shri Krishna has some deeper meaning, becoz nobody will

accept that dying in winters one goes to lower planes. What

according to your path/your guruji is the meaning of Uttarayna and

Dakshinayana ??"" I never said these words!and Please,I was just trying to

say ,I am following what was asked of me,Which i now understand,And Im not

Playing some Game,You think I am

saying

"again that you have been barred from posting

long messages !!!"" I think You are being mean to me, when I sincerely was

trying to say I understood Now ,after being told a few times,Why I shouldnt

put Long measages,and I am Not Deivious,Like That,To do that,I was

Sincere,and I Just cannot get your approval,no matter how sincerely Humble

I am!I hope you understand,I am a Neophite,Just Trying to enlightent and

help the Members of this club,and always ask for forgiveness,if in my

neophite stage ,I offend anyone!I think you misjudged me,

Your

Humble servant,Jaya Kesava Dasa I just dont think Like That!

 

 

 

 

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"beirut_ka_baba" <no_reply>

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Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:18 PM

Uttarayna & Dakshinayana

 

 

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> , "krsnajoe" <josephfullman@c...>

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> dear kesava dasa,.

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> In Gita shri krishna tells that who so ever dies during Uttrayana

> goes to higher planes and those who die during Dakshinayana, go to

> lower planes (Narkas) or come back to earth to suffer. Now the

> dictionary meaning of Uttarayana is summer when sun is in northern

> hemisphere and Dakshnayana is winter when sun is in southern hem..

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> Here Shri Krishna has some deeper meaning, becoz nobody will

> accept that dying in winters one goes to lower planes. What

> according to your path/your guruji is the meaning of Uttarayna and

> Dakshinayana ??

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> Hari Aum

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> And yes : please dont try to show yourself a downtrodden member by

> saying it again and again that you have been barred from posting

> long messages !!!

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Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila

Prabhupada and all Vaisnavas. Please accept my humble obeisances and

blessings. I pray that this meets you well and in the service and

mercy of Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga.

 

My Dearest Babaji;

 

BG8:23- 8:28

"O best of the Bharatas, I shall now explain to you the different

times at which, passing away from this world, the yogi does or does

not come back.

"Those who know the Supreme Brahman attain that Supreme by passing

away from the world during the influence of the fiery god, in the

light, at an auspicious moment of the day, during the fortnight of

the waxing moon, or during the six months when the sun travels in the

north.

"The mystic who passes away from this world during the smoke, the

night, the fortnight of the waning moon, or the six months when the

sun passes to the south reaches the moon planet but again comes back.

"According to Vedic opinion, there are two ways of passing from this

world, one in light and one in darkness. When one passes in light,

he does not come back; but when one passes in darkness, he returns.

"Although the devotees know these two paths, O Arjuna, they are never

bewildered. Therefore be always fixed in devotion.

"A person who accepts the path of devotional service is not bereft of

the results derived from studying the Vedas, performing austere

sacrifices, giving charity or pursuing philosophical and fruitive

activities. Simply by performing devotional service, he attains all

these, and at the end he reaches the supreme eternal abode."

 

The devotees of the Supreme Lord, who are totally surrendered to

Sri Krishna do not consider when they leave their bodies or by what

manner they die. They leave all these concerns in the capable hands

of Sri Krishna and happily return to the Supreme Personality of

Godhead. But those that are not devotees of Sri Krishna, but follow

other paths of self realization such as karma yoga, jnana yoga and

hatha yoga must choose the appropriate time of death to assure

whether or not they attain muksha or return to this material world.

If the yogi is perfect, they themselves can choose the time and

circumstances by which they leave this material body. But, if he is

not perfect his success depends on passing away at a suitable time,

he dies at the appropriate time by accident, not by his own

choosing.

The time of passing, such as when fire, light, day and the

fortnight of the moon (ekadasi) are mentioned, one must understand

that over all of these times there are various presiding deities who

make arrangements for the passage of the soul. At the time of death,

the mind carries one on the path to a new life. If one leaves the

body at the appropriate time, whether by accident or by their own

arrangement, it is possible for them to attain the impersonal

brahmajyoti. Mystics that are advanced in controling their life

airs, able to put into practice all science of the soul and body can

arrange the time, place and circumstances to leave the body. Others

have no control over this process, so they must rely of the favor of

the demigods who make such arrangements to pass from this body at a

suitable time so as to guarentee that they will not return to this

material world and its sufferings. For the pure devotee of the Lord,

those that take to Bhakti yoga, there is no fear of returning to this

world. It does not matter when or under what circumstances they

leave this body because all things are in accordance to the will of

the Supreme Lord.

In the Candogya Upanishad 5.10.3-5 the description of the migration

of the eternal spirit soul is given for those who do not attain

liberation at an auspicious time. It is stated, that if one is evil

in this life, and atheist, lazy in the manner of spiritual

attainments, one must transmigrate back through the evolution of the

soul, starting over from the beginning as rain, plant life, etc. It

also states that one may take a very inauspicious birth in that of a

dog, lower animal where they are trapped in this cycle of birth and

death.

The devotee of the Lord is not to be disturbed by the different

paths by which the spirit soul may leave this world, either by

arrangement or by accident. We as devotees are to be firmly

established in our service to Sri Krishna and chanting the Holy

Names. One should not be overly concerned concerning the paths by

which we leave, but to be confident that our lives are completely

arranged for our own good by the Lord Himself. If one is dedicated

in their devotional service, always engaged in devotional service,

this will make one's path to the spiritual kingdom safe, certain and

direct. In verse 27, the wrod "yoga-yukta" is significant in that it

applies to one who is firm in yoga and constantly engaged in Krishna

consciousness in all their activities. Sri Rupa Gosvamiji advises

us; "anasaktasya vasayan yatharham upayunjata", "One should be

unattached in all material affairs and do everything in Krishna

consciousness." By the system of Bhakti yoga or yukta vairagya, one

attains perfection through devotional service. In devotional service

the devotee is not disturbed by the methods of death, nor its

circumstances, whether by day, night, summer, winter, or phase of the

moon, because they know that their passage to the Supreme Personality

of Godhead is guaranteed by devotional service.

 

Your eternal servant;

Nitaipada Maharaja