Prayer !(Our Father)

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--Greetings, may the light of SELF keep us conciously united,

I am glad the topic of prayer has come up, because this

can be a controversial issue amongst seekers. When we pray where does

one conciously direct their thoughts? And when one enters into their

sanctuary of silence are they praying or pleading out of weakness and

desperation? I for one am a strong believer in prayer, but prayer is

not meant for "personal gain". If one holds their intentions of

prayer within the ego, then I say it is in vain. If one should choose

to include prayer in their life, then it should be a calling upon of

our birth right in divinity, for the strength and clearity to carry

out the will of the SELF and not our self. As long as our prayer

keeps us centered in this, then our prayers are always answered

within the eternal moment of creation.

Here in the west, one particular prayer is taught, which

is the popular prayer of the Bible as taught by Yeshoua the Christ.

This prayer is commonly called "Our Father". For those who are not

familiar with this, I will post it upon request at another time. What

I will say is that the commonly known version of this is not accurate

and has fallen victim, over centuries, to the watering down of

mistranslation. So I would like to share a more pure version of the

original prayer commonly called "Our Father".

"O cosmic birther of all radiance and vibration, soften

the ground of our being, and carve out a space within us where your

presence can abide. Fill us with your creativity so that we may be

impowered to bear the fruit of our mission. Let each of our actions

bear fruit in accordance with our desire. Endow us with the wisdom to

produce and share what each being needs to grow and flourish. Untie

the tangled threads of destiny that binds us, as we release others

from the entanglement of past mistakes. Do not let us be seduced by

that which would divert us from our true purpose, but illuminate the

opportunities of the present moment. For you are the ground and the

fruitful vision, the birth power and the fulfillment, as all is

gathered and made whole once again. Selah"

This is directly from Aramaic to English, and although one

word in Aramaic can have 5 or 6 different meanings in english, this

is closer to what the Jewish Master taught. Whether one chooses to

use prayer as a tool or not I wish you all strength and light upon

the path.

Eternally one, IcapoI ( Tyler )

- In , nama siva <nama_sivam> wrote:

>

> Baba,

> I dont know why you encourage people to do prayer

> My view

> Prayer is root cause of desire/leads to evil

> It is very difficult to do prayer with out any

> expectation

> Ultimately the result will be negative

> namasivayam

> --- beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote: