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"Spiritual Life Is Scientific"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.20

August 23, 1972, Los Angeles

 

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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

 

evam prasanna-manaso

bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah

bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam

mukta-sangasya jayate

[sB 1.2.20]

 

Translation: "Thus established in the mode of goodness, the man

rejuvenated by loving service to the Lord gains liberation from material

association, mukti, and comes to know scientifically of the Personality of

Godhead."

 

Prabhupada: So bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam. Vijnana means science. It is not

concoction, speculation. It is a science. Just like mathematics is a science:

"Two plus two equal to four." You cannot make two plus two equal to five

according to your whims. No. Anywhere you go, it doesn't matter. Because it is

science, so either in America or in India or in England, everyone will accept

"Two plus two equal to four." That is science. Science is true everywhere. Not

that "I can imagine my God according to my whims; you can imagine your God..."

That is going on. No, how you can imagine? There is no question of imagine. This

bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam, this truth, this science, can be understood by a

person who is mukta-sanga. Mukta-sanga, freed from material association. He can

understand. Mukta-sangasya jayate. And the condition is evam prasanna-manasah.

When you are enlightened, engladdened... Because so long we are in the

jurisdiction of ignorance and passion, there cannot be any jubilant. There

cannot be any enlightenment. Therefore you have to come to the platform of

goodness.

 

As it is stated in the previous...,

 

tada rajas-tamo-bhavah

kama-lobhadayas ca ye

ceta etair anaviddham

sthitam sattve prasidati

[sB 1.2.19]

 

Cetas, everything is working within the heart, the whole thing. Heart is

the central point of this body. So when the heart is not punctured by the

rajo-guna and tamo-guna and you become situated on the modes of goodness, then

you become jubilant. Jubilant means he can understand at that time that "Why

these people are working so hard like cats and dogs?" The human life is meant

for understanding what is God. Athato brahma jijnasa. This life is meant for

simply understanding what is God. The animal life, they cannot understand. That

life is different. But the human life is developed, consciousness is developed.

He can understand. This is called goodness. Tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovidah.

How one becomes intelligent? He can study... When he is on the platform of

goodness, he can study the nature that "Why I shall work so hard for getting all

my material necessities?" This is being supplied by nature. The birds and

beasts, they are getting their food, they are getting their mates, they are

being protected in their own way, they have got a sleeping nest, apartment. So

even an animal, even a small ant... We sit down in the garden, we see, even the

small ant it has got family, it has got home, it has got eating. Everything is

there. From ant to the elephant. Who is supplying? They have no business. They

do not do any business. They have no profession. But they are getting their

necessities of life.

 

Therefore, intelligent person... This is... Goodness means intelligence,

prakasa. And ignorance means darkness. In darkness, we cannot see what is what.

So goodness means light. Anyone can see that there are 8,400,000 species of life

or forms of life. They are getting their food. They are getting their shelter.

They are satisfying their sex. They are also defending without any extra

endeavor. By nature, they are doing their own way. So why human being, so-called

civilized human being, is so much harassed for these four things? We have got

better intelligence. We shall be, rather, more comfortable without struggling

for existence than the animals. But our struggle for existence is greater than

their struggle of existence. What is this civilization? This is not

civilization. Everyone wants peaceful, calm life. Even those who are struggling

so hard, big business magnate. Still, at the weekend, they find out some

secluded place, nice place, without trouble. That is the nature.

 

That human nature should be like that, that "Why should we work so hard,

simply for eating, sleeping, mating?" This is a wrong type of civilization. But

at the modern age, the human society is so made that one has to work like ass,

whole day and night, simply for satisfying these four necessities of life. That

is also not guaranteed. We thought that in your country... When I was in India,

I was contemplating coming to your country. I thought that America is very rich.

"There is no problem for eating, sleeping, mating." Actually, there is nil.

There is no problem. But the civilization is so made that there is no shelter.

They are lying down on the park, on the street. Why? There was no necessity, but

they have created such civilization, that a certain section of people are

voluntarily, or being obliged, lying down on the street, on the park, no dress,

no food, no fixed..., fixed-up sex life. Everything is topsy-turvied. Everything

is topsy-turvied. But this is not civilization, this is not civilization. Then

how they can understand God? Their mind is always disturbed and full of anxiety.

 

So first of all you have to come to the stage of tranquillity.

Prasanna-manasa. Evam prasanna-manasah. Prasanna-manasa means always jubilant.

That is... That can be achieved by this process: bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah. By

devotional service, not by no other process. Evam prasanna-manaso

bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah [sB 1.2.20]. One can be jubilant only by practicing

bhagavad-bhakti-yoga. There are many other yoga systems, karma-yoga, jnana-yoga,

dhyana-yoga, hatha-yoga. Everything you endeavor for spiritual enlightenment,

that is called yoga. So there are different types of yoga, but real yoga is

bhagavad-bhakti, devotional service. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said,

yoginam api sarvesam. "Of all the yogis..." There are different types of yoga

systems and different types of yogis also. But Krsna says, "Of all the yogis..."

 

yoginam api sarvesam

mad-gatenantar-atmana

sraddhavan bhajate yo mam

sa me yuktatamo matah

[bg. 6.47]

 

"That yogi who is devotee and always thinking of Me, or thinking of Krsna

within the heart..." Yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatenantar-atmana. Sraddhavan,

faithful. Bhajate. This is bhajana: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare

Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. So he is first-class yogi, who

is chanting Hare Krsna mantra and thinking of Krsna within his heart,

first-class yogi. That is bhagavad-bhakti-yoga. And if he does it nicely,

according to the rules and regulations, in the beginning, then he becomes

prasanna-manasa, prasanna-manasa, enlightened, engladdened. There is no more any

lamentation or hankering.

 

This is the sign. Evam prasanna-manaso bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah [sB

1.2.20]. Then you can understand what is God. God is not so cheap: "Come on, I

shall show you God. You haven't got to follow any rules and regulations." People

want to be cheated. Therefore there are so many cheaters. They take advantage of

it. Because they want everything very cheap. That is not possible. This is the

stage, prasanna-manasa. Then you can understand what is God.

Bhagavat-tattva-vi... Because it is a science. If somebody says, "Come on, I

shall teach you the science of chemistry within a second. Give me some money,"

is it possible? If somebody says, "I shall teach you mathematics. Come on, give

me some money.," So why these rascals are misled? If... It is a science; it is

not sentiment. It is science. There was... Understanding of the Supreme

Personality of Godhead without reference to these scientific books, Vedic

literature, it is simply a disturbance, simply rascaldom. Simp... Because they

are creating disturbance, always, cheating some people. They are cheated. They

do not get anything. Create some disturbance. That is the instruction of Rupa

Gosvami.

 

sruti-smrti-puranadi-

pancaratra-vidhim vina

aikantiki harer bhaktir

utpatayaiva kalpate

[bRS 1.2.101]

 

Utpata, utpata means disturbance. So many rascals, without reference to

the Vedic literature, revealed scriptures, Sruti-smrti. These are Vedic

literatures, sruti-smrti-purana, pancaratra-vidhi. Without reference to all

these books, if anyone poses himself that he has understood God and devotional

service, it is simply a disturbance, creating disturbance. That's all.

Sruti-smrti-puranadi... [bRS 1.2.101]. Because it is a science. How you can

manufacture it? It is not that thing.

 

Therefore any religion without scientific understanding through

philosophy, it is simply sentiment. It is not religion. And philosophy without

religious understanding is mental speculation. That is also useless. Philosophy

which does not search ultimately what is truth, what is God, that philosophy is

mental speculation. And the knowledge of God without philosophy is simply

sentiment. They should be combined. To understand God, our relationship with

God, our duty, everything should be understood, scientifically.

Bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam. Therefore this word has been used, vijnanam.

Visesa-jnanam. Jnanam, ordinary knowledge, and vi, when the this word is added,

vi, meaning visesata, particularly, for practical application... This vijnanam.

 

So this vijnanam, this science, can be understood by mukta-sanga, who is

freed from the lower modes of material nature, especially tamo-guna and

rajo-guna. So do not be befooled by so many rascals that

bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam, the science of God, understanding is so cheap that

anyone can give you by simply one day's association with some rascal. You see.

This is not so possible. Yes, it has to be studied, it has to be practiced. It

has to be realized. So this vijnanam is being stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Therefore in the beginning, in the Srimad-Bhagavatam: dharmah projjhita-kaitavo

'tra [sB 1.1.2]. All rascaldom going on under the name of religion, cheating

religion, they're completely kicked out from Srimad-Bhagavatam. Simply on

scientific understanding we are presenting what is Krsna consciousness. Not for

sentimentalists. Read the purport.

Pradyumna: "In the Bhagavad-gita [bg. 7.3] it is said that out of many

thousands of ordinary men, one fortunate man endeavors for perfection of life.

Mostly they are conducted by the modes of passion and ignorance, and thus they

are engaged always in lust, desire, hankerings, ignorance and sleep. Out of many

such manlike animals, there is actually a man..."

 

Prabhupada: Manlike animals. They show with two hands, two legs, but

actually they are animals. Four-legged. Two legs have been transformed into two

hands. Go on.

 

Pradyumna: "Out of many such manlike animals, there is actually a man who

knows the responsibility of human life and thus tries to make life perfect by

following the prescribed duties. And out of such many thousands of persons who

have thus attained success in human life, one may know scientifically about the

Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna."

 

Prabhupada: Yes. So it is not so easy to understand Sri Krsna. Manusyanam

sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye, yatatam api siddhanam: [bg. 7.3] "Those who

have endeavored for perfection of life, out of many such persons, one can hardly

understand Krsna." It is not so easy. But it is by Krsna's grace. Krsna being

very compassionate with these fallen souls of this age, He appeared as Lord

Caitanya and distributed Krsna. That is His prerogative. That is His right. If

Krsna wants to distribute Himself freely, that is a different thing. Otherwise,

it is not so easy to understand Krsna. Just like to earn one million dollar is

not so easy. But if you are fortunate, you meet somebody who can distribute

million dollars at a time, that is a different thing. Therefore Lord Caitanya

Mahaprabhu was recognized by Rupa Gosvami, namo maha-vadanyaya

krsna-prema-pradaya te: [Madhya 19.53] "My dear Lord, You are the most

munificent of all incarnations. The other incarnations, people could not

understand, but You are freely distributing Yourself." Krsna-caitanya-namne.

Krsnaya krsna-caitanya-namne gaura-tvise namah. Therefore we have to follow the

footsteps of Rupa Gosvami, rupanuga. Then we can understand Lord Caitanya. And

if we get favor of Lord Caitanya, we can very easily understand Krsna. This is

the process. Go on.

 

Pradyumna: "In the same Bhagavad-gita (18.55) it is also said that

scientific knowledge of Sri Krsna is understood only by the process of

devotional service, or bhakti-yoga..."

 

Prabhupada: Yes. Here also it is confirmed: bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah. It is

not said, "By mystic yoga, by hatha-yoga, by jnana-yoga, by karma-yoga." No.

Bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah. If you want to understand the science of God, then we

have to adopt this devotional service. Not by other yogas. Otherwise, in

Bhagavata it would have been said "By karma-yogatah, by jnana-yogatah, by

hatha-yogatah, by dhyana-yogatah." No. It is clearly said,

bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah. Bhagavat-tattva-vijnanam mukta-sangasya jayate. If you

are still after jnana-yoga, dhyana-yoga, you cannot understand Krsna, God. It is

clearly said. In the Bhagavad-gita also, it is clearly said, bhaktya mam

abhijanati [bg. 18.55]. Simply through devotional service.

 

So if you want to know God, then you have to follow the prescribed rules

and regulations of bhagavad-bhakti-yoga. It is very simple. It is made very

easy, especially in this age: simply by chanting Hare Krsna mantra. It's so made

easy, but we are so unfortunate that we do not take advantage of this. Etadrsi

tava krpa bhagavan mamapi durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah. Lord Caitanya

Mahaprabhu laments, "My dear Lord, You are so compassionate and merciful upon us

that in this age You have descended in Your, as Your name, and one can chant

this name without any regulation, without any regulation." Niyamitah smarane na

kalah. Any time, any circumstances, one can chant this Hare Krsna mantra. Krsna

has become so liberal. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, etadrsi tava krpa bhagavan

mamapi: "My dear Lord, although You are so much merciful upon me, still, I am so

unfortunate." Etadrsi tava krpa bhagavan mamapi durdaivam idrsam, "I am so

unfortunate," durdaivam idrsam ihajani na, "I could not be attached to chanting

of mantra. Oh, I am so unfortunate." You see? The things have been made so easy,

actually, but unfortunate class of men, they cannot take to it.

 

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

 

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This Class is used with Permission of

 

The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International 2005

 

 

 

 

 

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