Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 HI "Mind is a power born of the soul" Can somebody elaborate on this ...how did the mind start off in the first place & why ....true it is a collection of thoughts , impressions ....samaskaras but how did the (indivisual) first thought get created....thus starting off my mind. regards Adi beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 , Aditya Mukherjee <adimuk> wrote: > HI > Dear Aditya, This is a very difficult question because a bigger part of the answer has to be understood by oneself...words can't explain completely. However, let me try to explain, the explainable part. When the Excellence, consents for the creation of the universe...a part of it manifests as Shiva and shakti (Aham, Idam). Shakti gives consent to 3 gunas to manifest and Satoguna manifests as Buddhi, Rajoguna as Mind and Tamoguna as Ahamkaar. Mind in its full manifestation of pure Rajoguna is called Universal mind...and which on getting impurities of Tam...slowly degrades to sub-conscious...and finally into inert matter. The Matter is not non-conscious...but unconscious. Reaching matter..the downward journey of Shakti stops and she prays the Supreme to help her in purifying her manifestation. Parvati did Tapasya for thousands of years...and finaly Shiva appears before her and gives her a boon," I am happy with your Tapa...Twa Asmi Dasa....from today I am your Dasa. This has a deep spiritual meaning. When ParamShiva consents to purify the manifestation of Prakriti....then starts the journey upward. The Excellence shines like an atom in the matter and individual ego manifests which is nothing but a part of Universal EGO. Prana starts working on the matter and the matter becomes individual...here one celled plants emerge Slowly from matter, manifests individual sub-conscious which is nothing but a part of Universal lower Prakriti. Some thoughts say there is no individual sub-consc, but ego uses a part of sub-cons as his own...this is also true from sub-consc. emerges the Mind. This emergence of mind gives a real individual identity to a being....till now, though Jivas were separate, but they had no clear idea of their individuality and were mainly driven by the lower prakriti. Hence the journey from a single cell to human is performed. We are at a point where Mind is fully manifested (Individually only not universally)....Budhi, though still impure but fully active...and Viveka or Pragya peeping through the cracks off and on sending light of truth into our being which we call Intuition. The First thought thus awakened, in a part of the Excellence...as Aham asmi...the second thought being Twam asmi and thus a cascade of thought emerged. I dont think i could make out something....or it may look like a blabbering to you....Shiva knows. Aum Baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Namaste all. yad idaM manasA vAcA cakSurbhyAM zravaNAdibhiH nazvaraM gRhyamANaM ca viddhi mAyA-mano-mayaM SB 11.7.7 Lord Krishna instructs: My dear Uddhava, the entire universe that you perceive through your mind, speech, eyes, ears and other senses is an illusory creation that one accepts to be real due to the influence of maya. In fact, you should know that all of the objects of the material world are temporary and unreal, and the mind itself is pervaded by the illusion of Maya. -------------------- There is no such thing as ignorance beyond the thinking mind. Thought is itself ignorance, the cause of the bondage of becoming. When thought is eliminated, everything else is eliminated. When thought increases everything else increases. - 169 In deep sleep when the thinking mind has gone into abeyance there is nothing, by every one's experience, so man's Samsara is a mind creation, and has no real existence. - 171 Cloud is gathered by the wind, and is driven away by it too. Bondage is imagined by the mind, and liberation is imagined by it too. - 172 By dwelling with desire on the body and other senses the mind binds a man like an animal with a rope, and the same mind liberates him from the bond by creating simple distaste for the senses as if they were poison. - 173 - Viveka Chudamani - Jagadguri Sri Adi Shankara Acarya -------- Bhagavatam says: cetaH khalvasya bandhAya muktaye cAtmano matam, guNeSu saktaM bandhAya rataM vA puMsi muktaye Bhagavatam 3.25.15 The state in which the conscious mind of living being is attached to the three modes of material nature is called conditional life. But when that same consciousness is attached to Supreme Person, the living being is free in the state of liberation. ------------ bandhana aur mokSa kA kAraNa "mana" him bakhAn, yAte kaunihu bhakti karu karu "mana" te hari dhyAn Meaning- The mind alone is the cause of all bondage and liberation! Therefore, the involvement of mind in contemplation is absolutely necessary for whatever process of devotion one practices !! Verse- 19, "Bhakti Shatak - One Hundred Gems of Divine Love" by Jagadguru Sri Kripaluji Maharaj Jaya Sri Radhey! , beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote: > I dont think i could make out something....or it may look like a > blabbering to you....Shiva knows. > > Aum > > Baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Namaste. viSayAn dhyAyatazcittaM viSayeSu viSajjate mAmanusmara zcittaM mayyeva pravalIyate (Bhagavatam 11.14.27) Lord Krishna reveals: - "The mind of a man who thinks of material objects and worldly subjects is attached to them, but the mind of one who remembers Me is merged in Me alone." tasmAd asad abhidhyAnaM yathA svapna manorathAM hitvA mayi samAdhatsva mano madbhAva bhAvitam Bhagavatam 11.14.28 So the Lord instructs His devotee, Uddhava: - "Therefore, giving up dwelling on unreal things and not attaching your mind to worldly desires and persons which are no better than dreams or fancies (svapna mano-ratham), concentrate your heart and mind upon Me, with Divine emotional attachment for Me." Jaya Sri Radhey! , pyari_h <no_reply> wrote: > bandhana aur mokSa kA > kAraNa "mana" him bakhAn, > yAte kaunihu bhakti karu > karu "mana" te hari dhyAn > > Meaning- > > The mind alone is the cause of all bondage and liberation! > Therefore, the involvement of mind in contemplation is absolutely > necessary for whatever process of devotion one practices !! > > Verse- 19, "Bhakti Shatak - One Hundred Gems of Divine Love" > by Jagadguru Sri Kripaluji Maharaj > > Jaya Sri Radhey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Namaste all. na may-yAveshita-dhiyAM kAmaH kAmAya kalpate / bharjitA kathitA dhAnA prAyo bIjAya neshhyate // `In the case of whomsoever that has turned their minds towards Me, he desire or attachment that thereby arises in them would not result in bad, just as a fried or baked seed would not sprout again' SB 10 -22 – 26 Jaya Sri Radhey! > Lord Krishna reveals: > > - "The mind of a man who thinks of material objects > and worldly subjects is attached to them, > but the mind of one who remembers Me > is merged in Me alone." > So the Lord instructs His devotee, Uddhava: > > - "Therefore, giving up dwelling on unreal things and > not attaching your mind to worldly desires and persons > which are no better than dreams or fancies (svapna mano-ratham), > concentrate your heart and mind upon Me, > with Divine emotional attachment for Me." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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