Krishna & Gopis

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dear friend

 

 

 

Lord is substratum of the whole creation and hence forms base. Without Him

creation cannot sustain. Lord created the universe for entertainment. He has

given free will to all the human beings to do whatever they like. But, the

results will follow the deeds. So, He is indirectly controlling, that is to say

that enjoyment for good deeds and misery for bad deeds. Misery is to bring

realisation only and not to repeat the same bad deed. Otherwise, He is not

responsible for one's deeds.

 

 

 

Most of the times, we misunderstand God and interpret wrongly. For proper

understanding of Him, we should learn the divine knowledge and practice it. Lord

preaches the true spiritual knowledge in human form only, like Jesus, Krishna

and Prophet Mohammed. His mission is to uplift human beings by preaching the

divine knowledge. We should participate in His mission as His servants without

aspiring anything in return. The practical participation (in form of donating

money and physically spending \by working) will only prove our devotion.

 

 

 

 

 

Real love involves sacrifice. When we sacrifice ourselves and serve our kith-kin

we are getting enjoyment. Our enjoyment comes with the enjoyment of our beloved,

which clearly shows that the true love involves sacrifice.

 

 

 

Mostly people love Lord for their desires to be fulfilled. If things are out of

control then we rush to lord & start prayers. This devotion is like a

prostitute loving her customer. If one really loves Lord without any desire,

then only Lord will be pleased. When a beggar approaches us, we generally offer

him whatever is least useful to us. But, when a relative comes to our house, we

provide good food, facilities & even ask to stay for some more time. Why is

difference in our approach?

 

Beggar comes to us for what we give. He is not having any love to us. Whereas a

relative has not come for our food, he has come to see us. This shows love. Our

approach to Lord should be with love as relative but not like beggar, who

approaches only for satisfying desires. We should not worship lord only to

satisfy our desire. Prayers by words, meditation by mind & spiritual discussions

form preliminary level of worship. Devotee should search for Lord in human form

to learn divine knowledge and should serve Him in His mission.

 

To achieve the grace of Lord is the goal of life. When a human being is limited

to food, drink, sleep, sex and their blind bonds with the issues only, the human

being is not different from the animal or bird in anyway.

 

 

When you stop your spiritual efforts and your efforts are always towards to the

world, the Lord does not sanction the human re-birth to you and subsequently you

will be thrown in to the cycle of animals and birds. Thus, the Lord is justified

in such action. In such case there is no use of the human birth at all.

 

 

It is not essential to achieve the goal in this human birth itself. If you are

in constant trail with full sincerity till the last moment of this human birth

that is sufficient. You should not be discouraged by the failures. You should

not stop your efforts. One day or other, you will certainly succeed. Even in the

worldly efforts, success is seen by constant efforts. In spiritual efforts, the

help from the Lord is additionally associated. This is stated in Gita (Yatate

cha tato bhuyah… ). The human re-birth is negated as a general rule because most

of the human beings fall under this general rule. The special devotee comes

under the special exemption. If you are under such special exemption, you need

not worry about the general rule. If you are in the constant trail, you will

reach the Lord even after several human re-births as said in Gita (bahunam

janmanam …). However, early is better always. You can treat every day as a fresh

human birth and the sleep in every night as death. In

such case you will achieve the goal in this birth it self.

 

 

The Christians and Muslims are the best in this point, which do not believe in

the human, re-birth and become careful and alert. Hindus, who believe in the

human re-birth, are neglecting the spiritual efforts, postponing to the old age

and then to the next human birth.

 

Hindus must know that the human re-birth is only a special example and not the

general case. Even in Hinduism it is said that the human birth is very rare

(Nara Janma Durlabham).

 

 

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

 

surya

 

B K <bkgswu wrote:

 

Supreme Soul plays the role of Father, Teacher and Satguru at the same time.As a

Father We inherit all His Properties since God is being called as Ocean of

Mercy,Knowledge, Powers, Bliss, Happinesss, Virtures etc., including the Jeevan

Mukti in heaven. As a Teacher we receive the Study - knowledge of Beginning,

middle and end of this World Cycle. As a Satguru we receive the Shrimat from God

to be free from vices of Lust, anger, greed, Desire, ego and attachment being in

soul consciousness and Blessings.

 

God neither gives benefit for our good deeds nor He gives punishment for our bad

deeds.Good and bad fruits depend upon our actions and it is totally based on

Karma philosophy.If God starts giving good and bad results, then He will not be

called as akarta - one who never come into actions.

 

The life and Rebirth is based upon our actions (Thoughts) carried out in our

present and past life.If we have accounts generated among us, we would reborn

among ourselves, again to settle those accounts, which are called as Karmic

Accounts.

 

Actions, Karma are classified into 1) Akarma 2) Sukarma and 3) Vikarma

 

The Akarmas are performed in purely soul conscious stage during the first few

births we take immediately coming from the soul world. There is no accounts

generated during these type of Actions

 

Vikarmas are performed in complete body conscious with Lust, Anger, Greed, Ego

and attachment. This leads to rebirth among the persons whom we had performed

vikarmas to settle the accounts and this creating and settling of accounts keep

continuing by means of Life and Death.

 

Sukarmas are the actions performed with Good wishes, Good feelings by clearing

our accounts of vikarma by the Power of Spirituality and only good Karmic

accounts get stored in to our account, which we experience, being born to lead a

life of Akarma.

 

Relation between Gopis and Sri Krishna is only a depiction of God lovoing souls

who left their house and fortunes to attend the teachings given by Supreme soul

who descended at the end of Kaliyug.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

You are just trying to divert people from the truth.

 

> You are spending lot of your time and energy in analyzing these

worldly affairs. You are egoistic and you think that you are

intelligent to solve the worldly affairs.

 

And who are you to judge what we do and who we are? Man has the

power and the freedom to form his own life. Man is intelligent enough

not only to solve wordly affairs but to achieve all the great

accomplishments ever achieved by artists, philosophers, scientists

and yogis.

 

The greatest mistake that all these false preachers do is to make

devotees feel bad for themself. Yes, creating guild and fear in the

devotees might be a way to control them. But its not the way to self-

realization. The way to self realization is to have respect for the

body/mind and soul that we have been given by using its full

potential in accordance to the divine laws. Its person is the temple

of the living god and has the greatest godly potential. Each human is

divine.

 

>If you spend even one-tenth of that time and that energy in the

service and devotion on Lord Datta,

 

Amazing how some people try to command others around!

 

 

>His level of work starts when you go to the hell after the death.

 

Its like the forgiveness-papers that the pope used to sign. I ll sign

for you and you wont go to hell. You just have to believe all the

crap I tell you and donate your will and money to the church. ))

[Guest guest]

Namaste.

 

Here is an excerpt from Srimad Bhagavatam by Swami Shantananda Puri:

 

"..There is an interesting episode of Venu Gita (The Song of the

Flute) in the 21st chapter of 10th Skandha of Srimad Bhagavatam.

 

The Gopis (cowherd women) are all so intensely devoted to Lord

Krishna that, wherever they turn, they imagine all nature as

worshipping and lying ensnared by the bewitching charm of the Lord.

 

They feel envious of the flocks of does (female deer) accompanied by

their black bucks, which have come to hear the sweet melodies of

Krishna's flute, as if enchanted.

 

They could also see the cows and calves gathered around the Lord, the

calves forgetting to drink the milk oozing from their mothers'

udders, all with their ears attuned to listen to the strains of

Krishna's flute.

 

They imagine the rivers and the streams hastening with their hand-

like waves carrying gifts of lotus flowers to be offered at the

Lord's lotus feet in a fervent embrace.

 

The birds sitting quietly on the boughs of trees, with their eyes

closed, are sages who have assumed that form in order to enjoy the

divine music emanating from the Lord's flute.

 

When the mellifluous notes of the Lord's flute blaze forth in the

beautiful night, the Gopis whose hearts are full of love for the Lord

run to him immediately, abandoning whatever worldly activities had

engaged them at that moment.

 

Gopis who were feeding their husbands and children, those who were

milking cows, those who were in the process of dressing themselves ---

all of them dropped those activities midway and ran to the Lord,

their hair disheveled, their robes in disarray, totally unaware of

their bodies.

 

How many of us will be prepared to drop our activities and turn to

the Lord? His call is always sounding in our hearts, but few of us

heed it at all!

 

Another beautiful aspect of this episode is that, on the one hand,

only those Gopis who could run to Krishna on the Yamuna bank that

night were able to enjoy His company;

 

on the other hand there were a few Gopis who were restrained from

going by their husbands or other relatives and were locked up in dark

windowless rooms. They also got instant liberation.

 

"duhsaha preSTa viraha tIvratApa dhutAzubhAH

dhyAnaprAptA chyutA zleSa nirvrttyA khINamangalAH"

 

(Srimad Bhagavatam 10.29.10)

 

Such liberation can only come when their stock of Punya (merit) and

Papa (sin) gets completely exhausted so that the soul does not have

to get embodied any more as there is no stock of either Punya or Papa

to be experienced.

 

In the case of the latter category of Gopis who were locked up in

dark rooms with no exit, they were utterly miserable and their entire

bodies were burning in the 'fire' of separation from their beloved

Lord.

 

Experiencing such untold and extreme misery exhausted their stock of

sin (Papa).

 

Likewise while meditating on the Lord, they found themselves, in

their imagination, embracing the Lord and experiencing the utmost

Bliss. This extreme joy exhausted their stock of Punya (merit).

 

Having thus exhausted all their Prarabdha of merit and sin, they were

immediately relieved from the bondage of 'Samsara' (cycle of births

and deaths), left their bodies and attained liberation.

 

This is the height of Sadhana, intense longing for the Lord alone is

the key to salvation.

 

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was prepared to cut off his own head when he

felt frustrated on finding that he could not get the 'Darshan' of

Kali, and this led to instant realization The Gopis' love for the

Lord and their devotion to Him were so all-consuming that all their

ego was dissolved.

 

They were prepared to transgress all norms of morality and even face

ostracism by society. In fact, they had no body sense at all, and

they lived only in Krishna, going beyond the accepted norms of virtue

and sin, morality and immorality (a-morality).

 

In his Bhakti Sutras, Narada cites these Gopis as ideal devotees of

the highest order.

 

The Gopis were fully aware that Krishna was not a mere handsome

neighbor of theirs, but He was the Lord Himself, incarnated for the

good of the entire world at the specific request of Lord Brahma. They

clearly avow this knowledge while lamenting Krishna's

disappearance

from their midst. (Gopika Gitam, X-31-4):

 

"nakhalu gopikA nandano bhavAn

akhila dehinAm antarAtma dRk,

vikhanasArthito vizva guptaye

sakha! udeyivAn sAtvatAM kule "

 

(Srimad Bhagavatam 10.31.4)

 

" O Krishna, we know it for certain that You are no Gopi's son.

On the other hand, You are the witness residing in the hearts of all

embodied souls. We also know that You have taken birth in this world,

among these cowherd clans of ours in response to Brahma's prayer

in order to save the whole world".

 

The noblest type of Bhakti is where a devotee revels in the happiness

and well-being of his or her beloved and is extremely miserable in

the latter's misery.

 

The Gopikas, in their lamentation, describe the state of their minds

when Krishna used to leave daily for the forests in Brindavan for

grazing the cows ---

 

"calasi yad vrajA ccArayan pazUn

nalina sundaraM nAtha te padam,

zila tRNAMkuraiH sIdatIti naH

kalilatAM manaH kAnta! gacchati"

 

(10.31.11)

 

"O Beloved Lord! How miserable we were when we thought of You running

bare-footed with Your tender feet bleeding from the pricks of sharp

stones and thorns while taking out the cows for grazing!" (X-31-11)

 

The Gopikas sing, weeping,

 

"tava kathA 'mrtam tapta jIvanam

kavibhirIDitam kalmaSApaham

zravaNa mangalam zrImadAtatam

bhuvi gRNanti ye bhUridA janAH"

 

"Lord, hearing Your stories and glories is a divine nectar which

would rejuvenate and gladden the hearts of those dying with miseries.

It can annihilate all our Vasanas and sins as reiterated by the wise

ones.

 

It is only those devotees who are rich with the knowledge of the

Lord's glories that do great acts of charity by disseminating this

knowledge among others". (X-31-9)

 

--- Swami Shantananda Puri

 

 

Jaya Sri Radhey!