Krishna & Gopis

[Guest guest]

Of course its nonsenses that a guru can bear our sins. Thats what the

christians claim about christ, he saved the world. ?? The world still

awaits to be saved, how ironic. some gurus and very rare onces might

be in the position to handle or influence our karma to a certain

extent but never totally. Why? Because the net of karma is so

complicated that affects so many others peoples karma as well. If you

remove the bad karma of a person, this leaves a gap, in relation to

everyone else who was involved with it. Relatives, doctors, insurance

companies, etc. And if you become responsible of a certain karma,

then you must see to it that it gets fulfilled. Someone will have to

pay the price in the end.

[Guest guest]

>From childhood we have been made to think that God is all pervading at all

circumstances.

 

Vaishnavs, the followers of Krishna also believe God is all pervading, within

all human beings.

 

Adi Sankarachariar through whom Advaita philosophy and Sanyas Religion was

established also proved God is all pervading and has defeated so many well known

scholars of Different Philosphies.

 

Politicians have also said we can see God in Poor peoples happiness

 

All Hindu religion also says God is all pervading and tell the story that God

appeared from the pillar to save his devotee.

 

They also believe different persons with good qualities (Devtas) as God. Many

believe Krishna as God.

 

All saints also believe that God is present in all living creatures.

 

Even Yogis say that God is light which is all pervading

 

Every one has experienced something based on their belief and had made their

belief so strong that only a miracle can make them understand what really Truth

is.

 

If we see the common feature appearing in all the above philosophy, it is all

were said by human beings by their Limited Intellect.

 

On the other hand, we can say that Jesus Christ says Our Father is One, Guru

Nanak has said God is One. Prophet Mohammed has said God is One.Angels revealed

through Prophet Mohammed in Quran that God is One. And many place it is also

said that God is light. God is all Knowing.

 

If we see the scriptures which contains only the words of Angels like Quran and

few works of olden days, we can see that nowhere it would have been said God is

all pervading.

 

When it is said Light (Energy) is all pervading. Yes it is true that Light is

all pervading. All living beings and Non living beings are made of Light. The

only difference is The light of Non living beings are destructible and Light of

living being is non-destructible.But if we say God is light and since light is

all pervading, God is also all pervading, it is called ignorance.

 

It is said God is all Knowing. Yes He is all knowing. Even we human beings are

all knowing with respect to earth. We come to know about things happening all

around the world. Since we know all the happenings around the world, we cannot

say that we are present all over the world.

 

Soul is present in all living beings. And soul is all powerful. It consists of

Mind, Intellect and Sanskars. If we are pure, we can do wonders with the help of

Soul power. You would have heard people bend keys just by using their mind power

gazing at the keys. Soul size is one millionth size of a tip of the hair thats

what Hindu Scripture says and everyone agree with this. The size of a soul in

ants body, elephants body and human body is very very tiny and all have

souls. But like a seed of Mango give rise to only Mango tree, souls of animals

will born as animals only, souls of human beings will be born as human beings

only. Since all powerful soul is present in all living beings which are

indestructible, we cannot say that God is present in all living beings.

 

If we read Quran one place it is said about Jesus that, before crucifixion of

Jesus, Jesus was taken to my abode Gods place. If God is all pervading, that

sentence will not give meaning.at all. That sentence indirectly means that God

is residing at a fixed place.(What God says about Jesus Christ? God says that

Jesus is an ordinary person and Christ was the soul which was present in the

body of Jesus to establish Christianism. The words spoken by Jesus to Forgive

the souls who act without their knowledge while in the cross, was in fact,

spoken by the Christ, who spoke those words during capturing of Jesus. The soul

of Christ left the body of Jesus when Jews Captured Jesus, saying those words of

forgiveness.)

 

And if you have read hadees you can read that during early morning, God comes

to the earth to give blessings to the prayers performed by the Muslims during

early morning hours. This also shows that God is an individual entity which is

not present everywhere but who is an individual who can move from one place to

another.

 

And above all, human mind works in a way that it can write or give explanation

only based on its past experience or visions, it had seen or experienced. Human

beings can have experience of things only they have seen and experienced in the

earth.

 

Since God lives in a separate world and no person with a human body and ordinary

intellect can go and survey the land of God, human being cannot give an accurate

details of God and His actions. A theory created by one person or experience

felt by a person can be explained accurately only by that particular person.

Others can give explanation about others experience but it will be limited to

that particular persons knowledge and experience.

 

So God says, to give introduction about me in an accurate way, I myself have to

come down to explain you about me, the creation, past, present and future. No

human beings in this world whoever it may be whether a Yogi, Sanyasi, Guru, no

one can understand the World Cycle or about God with their limited intellect.

 

So God Himself come and give His introduction as follows:

 

1) Human souls are of smallest in size like stars point of light which

cannot be seen by eyes and God is also a point of light

 

2) Like Human soul has got Mind, Intellect and all their previous birth

habits (Sanskars) in their soul (like nowadays smallest computer chip consists

billions of information), God too have Mind, Intellect and Habits (sanskars)

stored in His soul.

 

3) Since Human soul takes birth in to human body maximum 84 times in one

kalpa, soul gets degraded with sins because of body consciousness. But God never

takes birth in to human beings and never come in to conscious of body, so His

habits are ever pure and He is very powerful that He is Ocean of Knowledge,

Ocean of Mercy,

 

4) God says if I too come and take birth, who will make you pure. So He

never takes birth.

 

5) God says I never give sorrow to anyone. God gives only happiness by

making us follow the path by which we become Happy.

 

6) All sorrows in this world are because we forgot that we are soul with

good qualities like Devtas and became conscious of body and started indulging in

vices sins.

 

7) All the destruction that is going to take place is only because the

earth has been burdened with sins of human beings and nature has to clean up now

that a new world will be created by purifying all human beings. Gods role here

is only to prepare human beings equal to His Godly nature, so that, they will

only occupy the Heaven, which is going to be established, after destruction.

 

8) God says Human beings have created lot of sins by saying God is present

everywhere in Stones, wastes, etc., He asks us if someone says that you are in

Dogs, Cats, Pigs, how do you feel? Will we feel happy hearing that I am a dog,

cat etc.,

 

9) God asks, How a pure thing can present in an impure creature or impure

place. If God is present everywhere, then everything should be of utmost purity.

 

10) If God is present in you and me how people can fight each other

 

11) If God is present everywhere, how all this destruction can take place, in

the presence of God, due to sins.

 

12) If God is present everywhere How he can allow bad things to take place in

this world. Can anything untoward incidents take place in front of or in the

presence of King or even Prime ministers or any VIP.

 

13) He also says that Different religion says Krishna is God, Rama is God

etc.,If really God has come, immediately after that there should be Happiness

and Peace in this World. But we can see whoever is considered as God, had come,

done their preaching and left to see only more unhappiness and more

peacelessness.. God says I come only at the end of the Kalpa when the sins are

accumulated to the maximum extent and during people suffer a lot. He will come

and purify us, show us the path to Peace and Happiness and immediately after

that a world of Peace and Happiness will be established in Earth.

 

14) God says This happenings in the world is like a Drama and God Himself is

also playing His role, at the time the world will be cleaned of all sins and

Heaven will be established in this Earth.

 

15) God says peple do fasting, in fact fasting has to be done for our bad

natures, habits so that we will be purified.

 

16) God says, people sacrifice Goat, in actual sacrifice to be made of our ego,

I, (In Hindi I is called Mei, like Goat say Mei..Mei..)

 

17) Like every action has got opposite and equal reaction, whatever we suffer

is the reaction of what sins we have performed earlier, may be in previous

births. God has got nothing to do with our individual immoral actions.

 

18) God says I do not have a body. I am a point of light. But to give knowledge

to His Children of the world, He requires Mouth to speak. So He takes help of

Brahma Baba body as a loan and He gives Knowledge.

 

19) All human body is consists of a soul of point of light situated at middle

of eyebrow, then there is angelic body similar to that of a body. This Angelic

body is of form of light with the shape of body. This body of light is very

bright for people with pure thoughts and dark for people with impure or negative

thoughts. Basically it is a body made of our thoughts. Then there is physical

body. God is only a point of light. So He needs Angelic body as well as Physical

body for His role to be played in this Earth.

 

20) God says Gita is not revealed by Krishna. Saints who come after Satyug and

Treta yug could see the visions of kalpa all the yugs of the world in their

mind in a distorted manner ( like Nostradaumus).So they mixed all the activities

of different Yugs and wrote scriptures. Since Saints are not aware of God, but

since they knew that Value based teachings were practiced by few at the end of

Kalpa, they wrote in the scriptures that Gita, the words of God is spoken by

Krishna, the 100% pure human being with good qualities, who comes in Heaven,

Satyug.

 

21) The activities of this world is only a Drama. Like we play a Video Movie

cassette repeatedly, everything will be repeated as it is again and again every

5000 years.

 

Although soul topic is not dealt in few religion, Importance is given on

worship of God remembrance of God. If really we remember God, we will actually

be in conscious of Soul.

 

We can become soul conscious, by remembering God or we remember God and

naturally we become soul conscious.

 

And Importance is also given for Peace. If we are really at peace, it means we

are in conscious of soul. Our real nature of soul is Peace. And if we are

really in soul conscious, Gods remembrance will be natural.

 

God says, If we think our self as a soul and remember God our sins will be

destroyed. Otherwise we have to destroy our sins by suffering. The option is

left to us.

 

The remembrance of God is nothing new but all the religion of the world says

that

 

 

prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

dear friend

 

 

 

Lord is substratum of the whole creation and hence forms base. Without Him

creation cannot sustain. Lord created the universe for entertainment. He has

given free will to all the human beings to do whatever they like. But, the

results will follow the deeds. So, He is indirectly controlling, that is to say

that enjoyment for good deeds and misery for bad deeds. Misery is to bring

realisation only and not to repeat the same bad deed. Otherwise, He is not

responsible for one's deeds.