Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 my dear friend it seems your are more concentrated on the powers of Lord but it is to be understood that it is not devotion. Hanuman, Gopikas never aspired powers from Lord nor they did not do any meditation. Hanuman participated in the mission of Lord Rama. Hanuman made miracles also but never claimed any ownership. He always used to say 'Dasoham kosalendrasya ....'. Scriptures have been distorted to a great extent by the so called ignorant scholars. What will you do with powers? Lord is the creator, maintainer and destroyer of the universe. Do you think He cannot take care of the Universe. Your contradiction of the concept of Satguru is against the whole system based in India and is even accepted by foreigners. Sri Rama Krishna is a Satguru. Sri Krishna is a Satguru. Adi Sankara, Sri Rama, Jesus all these are Satgurus. Satguru means Lord in human form. Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami From Vacant Space To The Present Human Form The atheist says that God does not exist. For him God is nothing i.e., vacant space. This is the first stage. When he sees miracles he becomes the believer in God. He accepts God as some power or energy. The power or energy is also formless, like vacant space. So the concept of God is near to his previous concept and thus the atheist (Scientist) accepts the formless (Nirakara) God very easily. The third stage is God with form (Sakara). In this stage statues in the human form are introduced. The training is given to do the sixteen upacharas (services) to these statues in human form. This training indicates that they have to worship the God in human form in this way. The sixteen upacharas are actually related to the human form only. For eg: the first upachara ‘Aavahanam’ means invitation corresponds to the human being only and not to inert statue. The statue in the temple is better than the statue in your house. Why? Because in the temple the ‘Pranaprathista’ i.e., initiation of life is done to the statue. This again indicates that you have to worship the statue with life. The concept is the inert statue plus life is equal to human being. Therefore in the temple the statue indicates that you have to worship the statue with life i.e., the human form of God only. Like this you are slowly trained to worship the human form of the God by the sixteen upacharas. In this training when your egoism and jealousy is completely destroyed now the human form of the God is introduced. Unless your egoism and jealousy are completely destroyed you cannot accept the human form directly. So the worship of the inert statue in the human form introduces the concept of human form, then the initiation of life (Prana pratishta) introduces the concept of living human form. Thus this is a gradual transformation of you by reducing your egoism and jealousy. When your egoism and jealousy are completely removed, the final human form of God is introduced. Only a particular man like Lord Krishna is God. This is Advaita philosophy, which is extended to every man due to the same jealousy and egoism. If every man is God, nobody requires salvation. Like this when you are travelling from vacant space to formless energy or power then you are accepting the human form but without life which is a statue in your house. In the same stage you are accepting the statue plus life in the temple, which means only a living human form. Finally you are catching the God in the present living human form. Whatever I preached here is having the best practical proof. Hanuman, the greatest of the human beings in this world worshipped Rama only who was a living human being in his time. He did not go down i.e.; he never meditated upon the formless God or the statues. In Valmiki Ramayana such things are not mentioned. He never worshipped even previous human incarnations like ‘Vamana’. He worshipped only the human incarnation present in his generation. Similarly Radha never worshipped ‘Rama’ but worshipped only Krishna who was the human incarnation of her generation. As per Bhagavatham Radha also never worshipped the statues or the formless God. Hanuman became Brahma and Radha became the queen of the 15th World ‘Goloka’. No body in this world will attain a better position than these two. So your spiritual journey must end in recognizing the human incarnation of God present in your generation. God is impartial and so He comes down in human form in every generation. If you say Lord Krishna is only the latest incarnation, then that generation was blessed and God became partial. Therefore God is coming in human form in every human generation. People are not recognizing Him because after the incarnation of Krishna the egoism and jealousy are growing continuously in all the human beings. The man did not recognize the God coming in human form after Krishna. After Krishna and before ‘Kalki’ is ‘Kaliyuga’. Due to the influence of the ‘Kali’ people are full of egoism and jealousy and so they cannot recognize the human form of God in ‘Kaliyuga’. God comes in different human forms in the same time in various levels for the sake of devotees in various levels. He comes as a schoolteacher for the school students, as a lecturer for the college students and as a Professor for the post graduate students. Since the school students and college students are large in number he comes down as a number of schoolteachers and college lecturers. Such incarnations are called as ‘Amsavataras’, which mean the incarnations of a small portion of His power. The incarnation of His radiation is called ‘Kalavatara’ which is the formless God like light worshipped by some believers. The light travels as waves and the Siva Linga in the temple represents this formless God. Since the Post graduation students are less in number only one professor comes down and He is the ‘Pari poorna tamavathara’ i.e., the most complete incarnation, which reveals the final true knowledge. He is called ‘Satguru’ or the original Datta in the human form. posted by: His servant at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org om_agni_devi <no_reply> wrote: Meditation is a fast way of attaining spiritual knowledge and control over greater energies and energy systems. I am not saying its the only way. Meditation is a very complicated matter both in technique and origin. Yoga has been studied and systemised in a brilliant way as the 6th philosophical system in India. Raja Yoga, the yoga of meditation, has been called RAJA due to its supremecy and has been practiced and taught by the greatest saints and yogis all over the world. Kriya yogis, nada yogis, hatha yogis, bhaktas, karma yogis, gyanis, tantrics, natha yogis, aghoris, swamis and monks, all traditions practice meditation in one way or another. Simplifying huge terms such as meditation and limiting them by labeling them as unreal paths towards God is a proof of religious and mental fanatism. Meditation is real, and those who practice it know this very well. The only Sadguru is the inner self. All others are only nice and helpful friends or frauds and mental-dictators. Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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