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Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami

 

Without the ‘Gurudakshina’, simply by singing and thinking about God is like

offering a meal plate in which only pickles are present. Ofcourse, they act as

side pickles if the main item i.e., rice is present in the meal.

 

When a rich man came for the spiritual knowledge, Shirdi Sai Baba said, “You

could not give Rs 5/- required by me. How can you know God?’’ Baba used to ask

Gurudakshina from everybody only to teach this most essential aspect of ‘karma

phala tyaga’. Patil, a devotee of Shirdi Saibaba used to offer his entire annual

crop to Baba and took back whatever was given by Baba.

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Even if your son is well settled and is the owner of ten self-earned houses,

you are sacrificing your house to your son only even though he is not in need of

it. You are not sacrificing your house to an outsider even though he is in need

of it. Therefore, need is not the criterion. Your sacrifice of your house is a

spontaneous expression of your love towards your son. Similarly, in case of

Satguru or God, the same concept is applied.

 

Your true love on God can be proved only by the sacrifice of work and fruit of

work. Now, you cannot contradict your own concept and say that sacrifice of

words, mind and intelligence to God is real love. You cannot say that since

children need money, it is given to them and since God does not need money, it

need not be given to God.

 

The concept of Guru Dakshina comes as sacrifice of the fruit of your work to

Satguru or God. This is the path and actually and this is only the path as said

in Veda ‘Dhanena Tyagenaikena…’. This is a big bomb for all the intellectual

selfish people who tried to misinterpret this text in opposite sense by

inserting the word ‘na’ before the word ‘Dhanena ..’. But, the same concept was

repeatedly stressed in Gita as sacrifice of fruit of work (Karma phala tyaga).

These intellectuals could not misinterpret Gita because the concept was

repeated.

 

The main point is that the sacrifice of fruit is the real expression or sign

of spontaneous true love. You are sacrificing all your wealth, which is the

accumulated fruit of your work to your children. If you are not a householder or

if you are a poor householder, atleast you will sacrifice the work (Karma

sanyasa). In such case, your work, (a form of energy) is the fruit, (matter)

since matter and energy are inter-convertible forms. Sacrifice of words, mental

feelings and intellectual discussions is not done in the case of your children.

Therefore, you yourself gave the proof of a real love and you yourself cannot

contradict it. You are also sure that your love on your children is true and is

not false. Therefore, I am extending your own concept to God.

 

A hunter called Kannappa sacrificed his eyes to the Lord, which are the best

parts of the body and is the best ‘Gurudakshina’. Veda says that you can earn

the minimum which is required by yourself and your family which is permitted by

the Lord and not extra. If you have taken extra, return it to the Lord. For

example, when you have gone to your friend’s house, you are offered a cup of

milk. You can drink the milk but not take away the cup. Veda says that if you

have taken extra, you are a thief and it is a sin. If you return the extra, you

will be excused by the Lord. Otherwise, that sinful extra money will lead you to

all problems. Some devotees offer even from their minimum or sometimes even

their entire minimum.

 

posted by: His servant

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

om_agni_devi <no_reply> wrote:

I do not think that the lord has any need

of material goods and money. If I give my money to the guru then God wiill have

none of it. So if the Lord wants my money, he had better come himself to ask for

it!!

[Guest guest]

GuruDakshina is simply a tool, to express the importance of the

message that is being sent via the Guru. Sacrifice, or giving up some

of the karmic earnings, again is a tool, to help detach an individual

from the fruits of his actions. One has to learn this process one way

or the other, either one learns to share in a healthy way, or it gets

taken away.

 

While one has to be careful as to who one gives money, and thus

empower, the moment one becomes dogmatic that dakshina has to be

given

to one person and not to another, to one guru and not another, it

raises a warning flag as to the authenticity of the messenger who is

stating this. More often than not, overzealous ego-centric students

corrupt a Guru's message as they seek power vicariously through their

Gurus' acheivements.

 

Of course a question then arises about the Guru who allows such a

thing

to happen. But then again a Guru could be teaching responsibility

using the concept "give them a rope and they will hang

themselves!!!"

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

, prakki surya <dattapr2000>

wrote:

>

> Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami

>

> Without the `Gurudakshina', simply by singing and thinking about

God is like offering a meal plate in which only pickles are present.

Ofcourse, they act as side pickles if the main item i.e., rice is

present in the meal.

>

[Guest guest]

Love is not the point nor the goal.

 

Love can only be a means.

 

Ultimately love is an illusion itself.

 

If the goal is the lord the way is clear.

 

The lord does not need any love, nor proof of love, nor money.

 

It is humans who need love, proof of love or money.

 

 

, prakki surya <dattapr2000>

wrote:

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tatwamasi, you lucidly and cleverly expressed my point.

 

 

 

, "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote:

>

 

> While one has to be careful as to who one gives money, and thus

> empower, the moment one becomes dogmatic that dakshina has to be

> given

> to one person and not to another, to one guru and not another, it

> raises a warning flag as to the authenticity of the messenger who is

> stating this.