Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 my dear friend love on lord is called devotion. you mean to say devotion is not required to please the Lord. if i claim my devotion in words only it is no true devotion. Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami Sankara lived in the world and did lot of work. He never sat idle thinking Aham Brahmasmi like the present Advaita Philosophers. Patanjali wrote Yoga Sutras and fixed Eeswara as the final goal. We remember Sankara today as the divine hero but not the other Advaita philosophers. Sankara sacrificed His mother and earning of money for the sake of the mission of the Lord. But the Advaita Philosophers sit in their houses and roll with their family bonds and simply say Aham Brahmasmi. One should become a divine hero like Sankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Swami Vivekananda etc.; they were dynamic doing the Karma Yoga, which was without any selfishness. Their Karma Yoga was the propagation of the divine knowledge, which is Jnana Yoga but today the Advaita Philosopher is doing Karma Yoga with selfishness for his family bonds only. What is the use of their Jnana Yoga? In Advaita philosophy you are reaching the self which is only the intermediate station. Of course you must attain the peace which gives you lot of strength so that you will withstand the suffering by sacrifice in the next half of the journey. Sankara stopped by preaching this intermediate station to all the people. When a few people reached this station, then He opened the further path to them only. He swallowed the molten lead and preached to the disciples that He alone is the Lord. They realized the self and reached the intermediate station called Brahman by the path of ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ (I am Brahman). Brahman means simple awareness. The next half path is to reach Lord who is Eeswara. Peace is not the final fruit. Peace is only the intermediate fruit, which gives you the strength in the journey. The fruit given by the Lord is the final fruit, which are peace, bliss and all the eight super powers. If one takes a sleeping tablet, he can get peace during the sleep as well as after awakening. Detachment from the world gives you the peace (Brahman) but the fruit given by the Lord is to remain peaceful, blissful while living in this world and helping the real devotees with the help of the eight super powers (Asta Siddhis). The fruit given by the Lord will give you the real bliss i.e., the entertainment in the life game played by you in this world itself which is certainly far higher than the peace. Sivoham (I am Eeswara) as told by Sankara is the final goal and not 'Aham Brahmasmi'. Q) You are advising homogeneity in action, words and mind. But in this world it is not possible to live with such homogeneity. What is the solution? A) I advised homogeneity before the Lord in the spiritual effort. I never told that you should be homogeneous in this world. Lord Krishna told Dharma Raja to tell a lie in order to kill Dronacharya. Lord Krishna tells in that context, that one should cheat the cheaters in the world. Lord Krishna says “If you go into the world of Maya without Maya, you will be killed as a soldier who goes to the war without armor on the body”. When you are associating with Maya for the sake of the world for a long time, the Maya enters your nature. You are showing the same Maya before the Lord. You are treating the Lord as an outsider and also as a cheater. He never cheated you. He gave you this human birth even though your file of Karma recommends the birth of animals. He gave the longevity, health and wealth and protected you several times in your life. Why should you cheat Him? You are not cheating your family members. Can’t you equalize the Lord at least with your family members? If Maya affects you continuously, why are you not showing the Maya in the case of your family members also? Then the Lord can excuse you because you are showing Maya everywhere. This means that you are not treating the Lord equal to your family members. You are offering the food to Him with your hand and eating. You are putting your jewels on the statue of the Lord and taking them away by next day. The statue is in your house. Why don’t you keep the jewels on the statue forever? The wealth is in your house only. Is it proper to take out the wealth that is donated to the Lord? When you are donating even to a human being, you are not taking back. You are not considering that statue equal to even an ordinary human being. You say that the statue is not inert object and is the living Lord in your eyes. If it is not statue and is the living Lord, why are you doing such tricks? While giving jewels to the statue, the statue is the living Lord according to you. But when you take away the jewels you are treating it as an inert statue. If the statue is alive, why is it not eating your food? Why is it not talking with you? You will not accept the human form of the Lord because if you offer the food He will eat. If you give jewels to Him, He will wear and will not return to you. On one side you say the statue is not inert. But on the other hand your practical behavior proves that the statue is inert. You are fooling the Lord. You are showing false love on Him. You want to impress Him so that He feels that you have real love on Him and then get all your desires fulfilled. You show a drop of real love, which you are showing to your children. You are giving a pot of cow milk to your children. At least give one spoon of the cow milk to the Lord. If you can’t give even that spoon of cow milk, keep quite. The Lord is not begging you for the cow milk. If you cannot please the Lord, keep silent. He will not be furious with you. Don’t show false love and fool Him to get the boons. If you can’t give even a drop of cow milk, keep quite. But don’t give a pot of donkey milk, which is false love, and make the Lord furious. It is not wrong if you cannot please the Lord but it is the greatest sin if you fool Him by false love and try to get the benefit from Him. Without the practical sacrifice that proves the real love, all your traditional activities and dramatic dress like silk cloth, sacred ash on the forehead and garlands of beads are only the means of cheating and fooling the Lord. You can fool a human being who is ignorant or having little knowledge. But the Lord is omniscient. Knowing this you are trying to fool Him!! Are you not the biggest fool before Him? Therefore have the shield of Maya when you enter the world but when you come to the Lord remove the shield of Maya. Even if you treat the Lord as the statue in your prayer room, stop all these traditional foolish activity and be real. Since the statue cannot eat the food, don’t offer the food. Since the statue is not having life, don’t put flowers, don’t lit the oil lamp when the light is present, don’t burn the fume sticks and camphor, don’t break the coconut etc., You see the beauty of the Lord in the statue or photo and fix your eyes. Develop attraction and love. Remember His qualities. posted by: His servant at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org om_agni_devi <no_reply> wrote: Love is not the point nor the goal. Love can only be a means. Ultimately love is an illusion itself. If the goal is the lord the way is clear. The lord does not need any love, nor proof of love, nor money. It is humans who need love, proof of love or money. Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dear, It seems that you want to say that ego developed in me when i say my guruji has taught me a lot.Offcouse he did it. I am not the one whom he taught they are many and they are more or less better than me in sadhana. Its not my greatness to achievement because this is very primary achievement if you have entered into meditation anytimetime. The claim i do to affirm its reality exposed to me.You should take it as healthy view which i dont think now you expressed. There are many people who have better accese to the devine world. but they are not all expressing there experiences.On the contrary they should express it.You also can expose if you have any experience. Unless until you express your observations,the spiritual science or here the discussions is not going towards developements.and will remain blinds play.mere pasting what our oldies wrote wont serve any purpose. A mothers attachment also is attached and needed to detached. Even if he is guru its bond and has to be get relieved at last.That why i say its grace of the supreme power to make me relieved. These are not ego centred tools offcourse as far i see it. If you have any different comment on this please expose them so that your comments are clear to me. Or say being moderator of the group that i should not expose my observations so that i can stop them. It was my try to offer the clarity and express myself what the reality is in front of me.I am least bothered if somebody picks stones or diamonds from it. --- Tatwamasi <tatwamasi wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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