Dher Dun Millitary Officer -1

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Om Kali,

 

Firstly, I would like to thank all those who contribute here, this

will only be a healthy group if all ask questions and give feedback

on all issues relevant to Ma .Please continue this good habit as for

those who are still agitated to post a comment please do not refrain

yourself anymore .

 

Secondly only issue raised like this can expand our discussion

further ……….Sameerji thank you again and please allow me to

share my

understanding of this matter;

 

Sameerji you are lucky to hear it is only a drop of blood everyday .

The recent Asia Time magazine even talked about sacrificing people

in Asia in name of Ma Kali. My observation on this matter is of

three- fold and I will post on them in each different post ;

 

1) Offers drop of his blood to Ma everyday

 

I see Kali as Brahman (following the lineage of my guru, and guru

parampara also other Ma devotees like Bhagawan Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa , Ramprasad Sen, Kamalakanta,and so forth…….) I see

Ma

Kali is formful (bhaktic) formless ( Vedantic) and also beyond

that !! My blood is of no use to Her as she is beyond all wants.

There is a difference in seeing Ma as deity only and Ma as Supreme

Divinity. Usually there are 3 level of devotees, those in lower

level worship Her out of fear. Those in next level worship out of

wants. And the higher level out of love for Her . The best part is

you get to choose where you want to be but realize the result limited

in its effect.

 

My sadhanas to Maa have always been based on authorities of the

scripture. Thus before any practice I would substantiate them with

the scriptures first. I realize the Dehra Dun case is form of

tantric practice. Thus I would look for the relevant nigama text if

any (When Ma Parvathi talked to Lord Shiva on spiritual practice ) or

agamas text ( When Lord Shiva talks to Ma Parvathi on spiritual

practice). Now this must be inline with the other tantrik text

because the meaning is often obscure and need to refer to various

texts before coming to its true meaning. I would usually use

Mahanirvana Tantra , and refer to other Sir Arthur Avalon books .

Then we must check the conformation of this practice in Kalika Purana

(it is a upa purana) as our Chosen Ideal in Ma Kali. However upa

(small) purana is a small purana and the gist of God in Feminine

Worship is in Devi Bhagavatha which a Maha (great) purana (there

other being maha purana for Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva). Then again I

have to reconcile with Devi Gita (the summary of Devi Bhagavatham )

before ensuring it is inline with the 108 of Upanishad of the 4

Vedas . Any time it is contrary to any principle stated in the line

of deduction I will drop the idea of practicing such a way.

 

This is because the hindu shahstras(scriptures) are structured in

such away that whatever the rishis ( I call them spiritual scientist)

of the lore have understood as internal truth (sanatana dharma) that

do not change was passed in spiritual lineage (guru parampara) by

hearing them (sruthi) from their masters this was codified into 4

vedas and the end part always had the summary of the vedas which was

the upanishad. There is 108 accepted upanishad available. However

this upanishad have been recorded (smirti) in 5 main manifestation

of the Supreme Being ( the one into many) so one can understand this

internal truth by way of worship of the same Supreme Being in

various form according to one's own perception. This is known as

one's ishtha devata (Chosen ideal of manifestation)

 

Theses myriad of forms of the same Supreme Being could be codified

into 5 main forms of worship that is Shaivisim(Lord Shiva followers )

Shaktism(Ma devotees) Vaisvanism(Lord Vishnu),Ganapathites (Lord

Ganesa) Kaumaram( Lord Shanmuga )and Suryam.

 

To cultivate your devotion to your Chosen ideal to such a point that

you could realize that there are actually having various forms and

also can exist without form .Nay !!! Even beyond that, the puranas

are given by the seers to us .Mahapurana are the main guide and

followed by the upa puranas. This purana without you realizing will

slowly guide your mind towards the internal truths stated in the

Vedas .

 

The upa purana is written particular to your very own chosen ideal in

such away that you mind will be directed towards the ultimate

goal .It will describe they way of worship, the conducive time for

her meditation on her various form and various ways of worship as

well.

 

Thus for us Kalika Purana would be upa purana and as we are Shakthas

our Mahapurana would be Srimad Devi Bhagavatham.

 

 

Tantra teaches us to achieve what can be done through yoga also

through bhoga –by not disregarding the world, spiritual

realization

can be also achieved and as I said earlier this could be agamas or

nigama text formation. In this age, tantric approach has faster

effect but be forewarned as what Bhagawan Ramakrishna have said that

tantrik practitioner is like riding on the lion, if you fall down you

will be eaten by it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Then that practice must be inline with main tantric text like

Mahanirvana tantra , Kulanarva tantra and so forth.

 

My assumption is most of the time people don't go through all

this

structure methodologies and practice as what somebody teach them

usually have not read the proper text either. A proper bonafide guru

would always share his scriptural authorities on his instructions.

That is why we had structured gurukal (spiritual schools) where the

disciple stay with the guru until he comes of age those days Even

choosing of Guru ,it is good if we could refer to Guru Gita and

Kularnarva Tantra.

 

I could not find any scriptural authority on the ex-army officer

practice.. More information is needed in this practice to identify

the relevant scripture base of this very funny practice.

 

Jai Kali!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kali_Ma, "Sameer A. Salgaocar" <ysalgaocar> wrote:

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> 7.8

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> Om Kali,

>

> Brother Kanna,

>

> Firstly I would like to thank Ma Shelly and yourself

> for the kind words of appreciation which were posted

> for my poem.

>

> I also wanted to draw your attention to an article

> which was written in the Asian Age recently about an

> ex-army officer in Dehra Dun who offers a drop of his

> blood to Ma Kali everyday.

>

> He also has a line of people who come and ask him for

> his predictions. The article has been written by Veenu

> Sandal who is herself a tarot card reader by

> profession.

>

> I wonder if you have any comments to make on this

> unusual gentleman or his daily ritual!

>

> Jai Ma Kali,

>

> Sameer

>

>

>

>

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