Sacrificed God in World Religions and Sin

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Namaste,

Thousand-headed Purusha, Thousand-eyed, thousand-footed-he having

prevaded the earth on all sides, still extends ten fingers beyond it.

Purusha alone is all this-whatever has been and whatever is going to

be. Further, he is the lord of immortality and also of what grows for

food.

Such is his greatness; greater, indeed, than this is Purusha. All

creatures constitute but one quarter of him, his three quarters are

the immortal in heaven....Being born, he prejected himself behind the

earth as also before it.

When the gods performed the sacrifice with Purusha as oblation,

then the spring was its clarified butter, the summer the sacrificial

fuel, and the autumn the oblation.

The sacrificial victim, namely, Purusha, born at the very

beginning, they sprinkled with sacred water upon the sacrificial

grass. With him as oblation the gods performed the sacrifice, and also

the Sadhyas[a class of semidivine beings] and the rishis[ancient seers].

From that wholly offered sacrificial oblation were born the verses

and the sacred chants; from it were born the meters; the sacrificial

formula was born from it.

From it horses were born and also those animals who have double

rows of teeth; cows were from it, from it were born goats and sheep.

When they divided Purusha, in how many different portions did

they arrange him? What became of his mouth, what of his two arms? What

were his two thighs and his two feet called?

His mouth became the brahman; his two arms were made into the

rajanya; his two thighs the vaishyas; from his two feet the shudra was

born.

The moon was born from the mind, from the eye the sun was born;

from the mouth Indra and Agni, from the breath the wind was born.

From the navel was the atmosphere created, from the head the

heaven issued forth; from the two feet was born the earth and the

quarters (the cardinal directions) from the ear. Thus did they fashion

the worlds.

seven were the enclosing sticks in this sacrifice, thrice seven

were the fire-sticks made, when the gods, performing the sacrifice,

bound down Purusha, the sacrificial victim.

With this sacrificial oblation did the gods offer the sacrifice.

These were the first norms(dharma) of sacrifice. These greatnesses

reached to the sky wherein live the ancient Sadhyas and gods."-Rig

Veda X:90, in Sources of Indian Tradition,pp.16-17

 

Conservative estimates date the Rig Vedas' construction in the yrs

1500+ BCE, however many others date it far earlier to 3000 BCE+, it

all depends on who you consult as the vedas weren't written down but

memorized in full by the Brahmans/Priests. This date far precedes the

Exodus from Egypt of the Hebrews dated to around 1200BCE or less? and

thus the writing of the Torah, even if the biblical account is

believed to the letter!

The 4 divisions of Purusha(man) is the model for the creation of

the Caste system in Vedic(Hindu) society, as is stated

above-Brahmans(priests) are the head, Kshatriyas(warriors) the

shoulders and arms, Vaishyas(merchants) the thighs, and

Shudras(peasants) the feet.

The 4 divisions of the Primordial Man(Purusha) is Synonymous with

the Biblical Adam, or as the Qabalists say 'Adam Kadman'-Ancient Man,

referring to Adam(man) in the 'image of god', and subsequintly the 4

divisions of the Hebrew Kabbalistic Tree of Life, with the hebrew

letters being the 22 paths connecting the 10 sefirot(spheres).

"seven were the enclosing sticks in this sacrifice, thrice seven

were the fire-sticks made, when the gods, performing the sacrifice,

bound down Purusha, the sacrificial victim."

now the 7 sticks dividing Purusha may be the seven days of creation

in the Hebrews or it could be the way in which the 10 spheres on the

tree line up laterally? or it may refer to the seven spheres on the

tree of life below the 3 supernals, as it is interpreted traditionally

by kabbalists? as, if you understand the cosmology of the Tree you

would see it fits perfectly for the seven days of creation to be the

seven sefirot(spheres) below the Abyss and the 3 supernals, the

triad(the later father, son and holy ghost).

now the thrice(3x7) seven fire-sticks may well be referring in

Hebrew to the 22 letters connecting the paths? as the paths on the

tree of life are seen in a way as being masculine/projective and thus

firey energy or symbolically sticks? while the sefirot(spheres)

themselves are considered to be feminine/receptive in nature. However,

the problem is 3x7=21 not 22..so maybe this 21 refers to the 21

Enochian(angelic) letters scryed by Dr.John Dee and Edward Kelley? I

do not know, i am just offering input here:) there are many parts of

the Vedic system i have yet to explore, in fact the same goes for the

western system of spiritual development or Ritual Magick.

 

"Such is his greatness; greater, indeed, than this is Purusha.

All creatures constitute but one quarter of him, his three quarters

are the immortal in heaven....Being born, he prejected himself behind

the earth as also before it."

 

but 1 quarter is all the creatures of the earth, this corresponds

perfectly with the 'world' of Assiah on the Kabbalistic Tree of life.

the 3 quarters being the Immortal in Heaven, corresponds exactly

with the 3 other worlds on the tree of life, namely

Yetzirah(Astral/formative, realm of angels), Briah(Creative, realm of

archangels), and Atzilut(Primordial, realm of Pure Deity).

now I will turn to Egypt and the God or Resurrection Osiris(Ausar);

 

"One of the most important deities of ancient Egypt, whose principal

association is with death, resurrection and fertility. He is usually

depicted as a mummy whose hands preject through his wrappings to hold

the royal insignia of crook and flail. He wears the distinctive atef

crown, consisting of the tall 'white crown' flanked by two plumes,

sometimes shown with the horns of a ram. His flesh was sometimes shown

as white, like the mummy wrappings, black to signify the fertile Nile

alluvium, or green in allusion to resurrection.

Osiris was one of the earliest Egyptian gods, probably originally

regarded simply as a Chthonic fertility-god overseeing the growth of

crops, and perhaps with some connection to the Inundation as a source

of fertile alluvium. In later times his connection with the river was

still occasionally maintained. As his cult spread through the country,

he gradually took on the attributes of those gods on whose cult

centres he encroached. It seems likely, for instance, that his

insignia were taken from Andjety, a god of Busiris(ancient Djedu) in

the Delta. It is that the legend of Osiris as the dead form of an

earthly ruler was also taken over from Andjety's cult. Subsequently,

when various sites claimed to be associated with the individual parts

of Osiris' dismembered body, Busiris claimed his backbone, the DJED

Pillar, a symbol that had many other connotations and was simply

assimilated into the cult of Osiris, perhaps losing its original

meaning in the process.

His main southern cult centre was at Abydos(ancient Abdjw), which

was said to be the burial place of his head. In the New

Kingdom(1550-1069 bc), the tomb of the 1st Dynasty ruler Djer(c.3000

BC) was claimed to be his burial place, and the site became a centre

of pilgrimage. As well as a chapel of Osiris in teh temple of Sety

I(1294-1279 BC) there was also the so-called 'Osireon', the masonry of

which was evidently intended to resemble a temple of the Old

Kingdom(2686-2181 BC), although it was actually the work of Merenptah

(1213-1203 BC).

Although his Best-known epithet is Wennefer, meaning 'eternally

good' or 'eternally incorruptible'(i.e. not suffering the decay of

death), he also took on the title 'chief of the westerners', which was

the literal meaning of the name of the Jackal-god Khenti-mentiu, the

earlier god of the dead at Abydos.

Osiris' epithets also included 'he who dwells in Heliopolis', which

thus associated him with the cult-centre of the sun-God RA. The

Heliopolitan priests attempted to provide a genealogy for Osiris in

the form of the Ennead, a group of nine Deities whose relationships

are firts described in the Pyramid Texts. Other funerary associations

may have evolved as a result of his assimilation with the hawk-headed

Sokar, another under-world god associated with Ptah, patron of the

city of Memphis.

The combination of his fertility and funerary aspects naturally

transformed Osiris into the quintessential god of resurrection. by at

least the 5th Dynasty(2494-2345 BC) the dead king was identified with

Osiris, while the living ruler was equated with his son Horus(see

Kingship). With the so-called 'democratization of the afterlife' that

took place during the First Intermediate Period(2181-2055 BC) it

appears to have become possible for any deceased person to be

resurrected in the guise of Osiris (see Coffin Texts). The phrase

'Osiris of X' is frequently used to refer to the deceased, in order to

identify him or her with the god.

In order to gain eternal life, it was essential for the mummified

body to imitate the appearance of Osiris as closely as possible. The

Greek writer Herodotus therefore described the most expensive

technique of mummification as being 'in the manner of Osiris'. As the

judge of the dead, Osiris is shown in judgement scenes illustrating

the Book of the Dead[or in Egyptian "the going forth by day"my

quotes]."-The Dictionary of Ancient Egypt by Ian Shaw and Paul

Nicholson in association with The British Museum.

 

I could continue to quote and illuminate more but the task will be

reserved for a book i plan on eventually writing, if i ever get around

to it?

 

Osiris' backbone is the DJED pillar, a pillar with 4 levels at the

top of it, and sometimes 3. the 4 levels i suggest are the 4 worlds of

the Kabballah/tree of life of the Hebrew, and the 4 divisions of the

Body of Purusha in the Vedic Tradition!

Now just which came first the Vedic or the Egyptian i do not know?

However, it must be recognized that the entirety of the Hindu culture

has been built on this model of 4 divisions and so definitally should

raise more than a few eye-brows.

it is well documented that Sanskrit shares similar words in

common with ancient Sumerian, Egyptian, Aramaic and especially Greek.

The Phonecians(the first to develop the 22 lettered Aleph-Bet) got

their script from the cultural exchanges with the Egyptians and the

Greeks got their script from the Aramaic/Phonecian script as well as

the Hebrews got their script from the Phonecians/Canaanites and

Sanskrit Aryans, according to western scholars(although in question

now), got their writings from Aramaic/Canaanite/Phonecian exchanges

along with other peoples they were exposed to in their travels through

Sumeria to Harrappan civilizations and finally native Dravidians of

which Mohenjo Daro and Harrappan are the first developed examples,

according to some.

Now Jesus fills the same role as Osiris and the dismembered body of

the Creator in the Egyptian Creation Story relates similar divisions

of the divine One being into the various parts of the world and the

universe at large, also it isn't to be over-looked that the Chinese

have a similar example of the division of a One being into the various

parts of the world as well as the Japanese, and i'm sure others, as

i'm not familiar with all of the worlds religions enough to say

conclusively yet.

This is the foundation of these various religions and one on

which every sacrifice afterwards is looked toward as a miniature

symbol of!

words spoken in the Gospels affirm this vary relation i speak of,

that all the world is physically and spiritually "God", including You

and I! the very same thing that Hinduism and all Native religions

around the world Claim!

 

John 10:34-"Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, I

said, YOU ARE GODS?'"

John 10:35 "If he called them Gods, unto whom the word of God came,

and the scripture cannot be broken; say ye of him, whom the Father

hath sanctified, and send into the world, though blasphemest;because I

Said, I Am the Son Of God?"John 10:36

 

The passage in the 'law' Jesus speaks of uses the word ELOHIM,

Literally in Hebrew Meaning "GODS!"

Psalms 82:6 "I have said, YOU ARE GODS; and all of you are children of

the [most] High."

 

Statements also made throughout the Gospels reveal that Jesus knew

well to what he referred but hardly any if any at all who followed him

understood! he said 'in as much as you have done these things unto the

least of these(various peoples he mentions) you have done them unto me!'

he says that he who believes in him can do the very same things he

has done and greater! All Jesus ever claimed was that he was the Son

of God, and in the Above statement he makes clear that we are all Sons

and Daughters of God, each and every one of Us! So how is this any

different from anything Hinduism has ever claimed? how different than

the Egyptians Claims? about how they adopted the name of Osiris so

that they might be reborn in heaven and the christians adopting Jesus'

name for the same purpose? Time...is that it? Logically this is the

conclusion!

by sacrificing himself on the cross, he made a living symbol for

the Jewish people to understand, as they had become political and

material seeking, they lost site of the true spiritual revelations.

He came to the Jews because they were corrupted at the time and

had lost their Kabballistic teachings through Secrecy, something that

is maintained to this date! although to a lesser degree. the

kabbalistic/mystical teachings of Judaism were jealously guarded and

in order to practice it their were strict requirements and the value

it offered to the population couldn't be realized with such strict

secrecy and so maybe the Rabbis who understood it all were angry that

Jesus was teaching everyone including gentiles and wanted him dead for

that, along with diverting their authority?

in any case, other people around the world already understood the

symbolism associated with Jesus' death and didn't need him and Still

Don't! Although comparative religion helps to reinforce beliefs

already held and could be of value in that sense.

the True Revelation is that We All Have to Die to ourselves, our

egos' in order to be reborn, to reach Moksha-liberation from the cycle

of reincarnation and complete enlightenment!

Just as the world was created by the sacrifice and we became

individuals we must sacrifice our individuality to return to the unity

of the source. The means of creation is the means of dissolution and

if we suffer because of separation then we must seek unity!

nobody can make that sacrifice for you! this is one of the Great

deceptions of Christianity! The other is that everyone else in the

world has to be converted to Christianity to save their souls!

Panentheism is the true Universal religion of truth, and there can

be no better example of Panentheism than that of Hinduism, as it

offers the multiplicity in unity of a developed 'civilization' built

on those Panentheistic principles(God/s is in all and beyond all).

in addition, there are many more parallels between the Hebrew,

Egyptian and Hindu traditions such as lord Ganesha being the ruler of

Categories and having 32 aspects or forms..the 22 letters of Hebrew on

the tree of life and the 10 sefirot(spheres)=32!

as well the 33 main Gods of Hinduism, now 33 isn't 32 but as the

Brhad-Aranyaka Upanishad shows (3.9.1.)[i am selectively

quoting]-"which are the thirty-three? The eight

spheres-of-existence(Vasus), the eleven divinities-of-life(Rudras),

the twelve sovereign-principles(Adityas), make thirty-one. The

ruler-of-heaven(Indra) and the lord-of-progeny(Prajapati) complete the

thirty-three."

now this is a different cosmology than the Tree of life diagram

but it manages to result in the same major categories of the creation

process minus 1, but the nature of Prajapati may help to explain?

"When envisaged together as one universal fiery principle, the

three forms of fire are known as the lord-of-progeny(Prajapati).Hence,

"the divinity of all the sacred utterances taken collectively is the

lord of progeny, while the deities of each individually may be

Agni(fire),Vayu(wind), and Surya(sun)respectively"(Brhad-devata

2.124[116]). The spheres of the three worlds and all they contain seem

to come forth from this lord of protgeny, that is, from the totality

of the three forms of fire."-The Myths and Gods of India, the classic

work on Hindu polytheism by Alain Danielou p.81

so Prajapati is the 'beyond' or totality summed up as the 33rd God!

this is a common practice of Hindu Alchemists as well, always rounding

up one number after all the details have been dealt with to account

for the element that is 'beyond'.

the systems are different in their classifications of the elements

of creation but perhaps that is due to my lack of understanding or

some other factor i'm unaware of? i would most likely say that this is so.

i'm not an expert on either Kabballah or Hinduism, but i do study

them both and other religions of the world as well and i'm learning:)

anyone offering insights would be much appreciated!

my word to Judaism, Christianity and Islam is respect your

Elders!

Namaste,

Justice

 

 

 

 

 

 

the nature of Sin is Separation. Separation from the earth, the

life, the animals and other humans, separation from 'the force' or the

spirit-that-moves-through-all-things. Sin is forcing your will upon

another creature/human without necessity, or doing damage to another.

the only way you can do damage to another is if you feel separated

from that other, so an act of sin is really the result of an internal

sin.

whenever we use the word 'Sin' it implies religion. so lets deal

with religious cosmology.

anyone familiar with Kabballah/qabalah and the nature of the

Alef-bet?

each letter is a symbol in Hebrew, it also is a number and the

pronunciation and spelling of it has signficance because it names a

symbol. for instance the first letter of Hebrew is Alef(the equivalent

of A in english)=1 and spelled out means Ox, or cow. why? because 1st

the cow helped to build civilization by all of its' parts being used

for plowing fields and for milk and generally it was the most useful

of all domesticated animals. agriculture led to the complexity of

village life and 'civilization' and eventually to communication using

written language, this is why in all ancient cultures the cow is

revered-Egypt,mesopotamia,India etc. it is the culture builder. it is

the unifier.

the name for Sin, most commonly used in Hebrew is HaTA, the

capitol letters are hebrew letters the small 'a' is a vowel.

the first letter of a hebrew word is the most significant. the 'H'

is a Het in this case meaning-fence,enclosure,#8.'T' is Tet-snake,#9

also Tarot card Strength. and 'A'-Ox,#1. in other words

'Fence/enclose/separate, with Strength, or forcefully, the Oneness.'

as some of you may note, when there is 1 then the possibility of 2

is there, because you separate the one and so as a result the 1 is

flawed in the first place, instead it should be 0. but then we

couldn't even have an analytical mind or any separation at all,

physically, spiritually etc. at all. 0 is uncommunicable in

actualization, it just is, there is no letter for 0.

so a Sin is a separation. seeing oneself as disconnected from the

whole, which leads to egotism and all other unpleasant manipulative

behaviour, whether it be raping the land for profit or manipulating

someone for one's advantage, or demonizing anothers religion, as all

things are a part of the whole. the problem with religion is it is

forced on people in the western world and this immediately

necessitates that the followers aren't connected to 'God' or

the-spirit-that-moves-in-all-things at all, rather they speak as a

separator and from separation. there are precious few religions that

actually, in their outward garbs, recognize other religions as valid

as well, these being Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions coming

out of India and Taoists in China. Beyond this most all the Native

Cultures of the world that still recognize

the-spirit-that-moves-in-all-things, or the ones who are Panentheists.

These people maintain the 'garden of eden' spirituality.

in practical application the only sin is one that forces its'

will upon another being/creature without necessity. All True Crimes

share one thing in common, and that thing is the Forcing Of Ones Will

Upon Another! from theft to assault and murder. to kill to live is the

natural process, to kill more than you can eat or need is criminal. to

kill your neighbor so you can cannibalize him for lunch, if necessary,

isn't a sin. although, finding other animals to eat or herbs or fruits

or whatever is less harmful and so if you killed your neighbor instead

of killing an animal/s or eating plants etc. that would be forcing

your will upon them without necessity and so Yes, that would be a Sin!

the purest way to live is to eat fruits and vegetables, this is

best for the human body and least harmful and hurtful to all of life.

to eat a fruit, you don't kill the tree that produces it, you simply

pick the fruit when it is ripe and then plant or disgard the core with

the seeds and they grow new fruit trees/plants, same with many

vegetables. this is 'garden of eden' living, the ideal state.

agriculture was the worst thing that ever happened to mankind in this

way of thinking.

thorns sprouted from the earth for those Sins. As you may observe

that on the edges of clearings or in forested areas of the earth

thorns will grow up in the places damaged. it's not all that mystical

to come to the reasons for it...birds perch over fields to look for

prey or to keep a watchful eye out for predators and they drop the

seeds from the berries they are eating onto the edges of the

clearings, and thorn bushes sprout. but anyways, you all get the idea.

man started walking upright and womens labor pains increased from the

shift of the pelvis and elongation of body, and we learned to 'farm'

the earth and manipulate it as if it weren't 'One' with us and we used

and abused.

so there you go..and remember..in all religions it is the

wondering ascetic that lives naturally with the

spirit-that-moves-in-all-things that is the holiest and most venerated.