RE: Kali mantras

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Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)sapna email

<sapna208 > wrote:

 

Jai Kali Mata Kiiiii

Can anyone give me all KALI MATA MANTR'S CHANTS...

Thanks

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as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg.

reply me . sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

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Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)sapna email

<sapna208 > wrote:

 

Jai Kali Mata Kiiiii

Can anyone give me all KALI MATA MANTR'S CHANTS...

Thanks

Jai Kali Mata Ki

 

 

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told don't sound right to me.

 

KALI MAA

balu

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Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)sapna email

<sapna208 > wrote:

 

Jai Kali Mata Kiiiii

Can anyone give me all KALI MATA MANTR'S CHANTS...

Thanks

Jai Kali Mata Ki

 

 

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Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Om Hrim

Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah

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Om Krim

Kaliye Namah

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12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:navy">Om Kali kali maha kali kalike

paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani

namostute

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Chamundaye Vicche Namah

color:navy;font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">It covers all shaktis

and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of Maha

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Re: Kali

mantras

 

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am

praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say

as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

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examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be

bhajans (praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular

structure which uses the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow

to you" or, "I make offerings to you." There are

occasional exceptions to this structure, but the examples Balu gave don't

sound right to me.

You'd

get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless

She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/

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<balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple

ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

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Jai

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This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Hi Balu,

I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

 

I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

 

J Chatterjee

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Hi chatterjiee,

 

ok i agree with your facts. Do you have a simple mantras that can bring kali

into you body and souls.

 

Jai maa kali

baluJ Chatterjee <jkconline (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Balu,

I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

 

I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

 

J Chatterjee

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Dear balu,

Thanks for your reply. The best advice I can give is that you should chant the

Kali Beeja Mantra after proper initiation. As beeja mantra is a very powerful

mantra by its own rights, please go through proper initiation and abolution

process before you start.

 

Best Regards

J Chatterjeebalu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

Hi chatterjiee,

 

ok i agree with your facts. Do you have a simple mantras that can bring kali

into you body and souls.

 

Jai maa kali

baluJ Chatterjee <jkconline (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Balu,

I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

 

I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

 

J Chatterjee

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah

Om Krim Kaliye Namah

Om Kali kali maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi

narayani namostute

The best one is: Om Aim Hrim

Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah

It covers all shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of

Maha Kali or Maha Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.

Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is there some sort of

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lessen this mantra's value to me or the depth of devotional emotion or

meditative value of the mantras, but it does point out the failings of

the "secret mantra" system.

 

Mantras are powerful prayers and we should all offer powerful prayers to

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> balu gopalan <balugopalan

>Re: Kali mantras

>

>Hi chatterjiee,

>

>ok i agree with your facts. Do you have a simple mantras that can bring kali

into you body and souls.

>

>Jai maa kali

>balu

>

>J Chatterjee <jkconline wrote:

>

>Hi Balu,

>I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

>

>I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

>

>J Chatterjee

>

>

>balu gopalan <balugopalan wrote:

>hi Len Rosenberg,

>

>This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

>yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 wrote:

>

>Hi, Balu --

>

>Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

>

>I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

>

>-- Len/ Kalipadma

>

>

>

>

>

>balu gopalan <balugopalan wrote:

>ok thanks ..

>as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

>mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg.

reply me .

>

>sapna email <sapna208 wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

>

>

>

>Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 wrote:

>The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make offerings

to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the examples

Balu gave don't sound right to me.

>

>You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

>

>Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

>

>-- Len/ Kalipadma

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>balu gopalan <balugopalan wrote: hi Sapna,

>

>balu here ok very simple ok.

>Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

>OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

>

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Balu

You mena Maa Kali ,,,, she herself gave you this Mantra.. pls clear

JAI KALI MAA

SAPNA

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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can you please give me powerful mantra's ...pls help me out

Sapna

 

 

 

J Chatterjee <jkconline (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Balu,

I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

 

I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

 

J Chatterjee

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Dear J Chatterjee

 

Can you please tell me proper way for chanting KALI'S BEEJ MANTRA,,,,, please

advice me proper way so I can start chanting as I m waiting so long

Jai Kali Maa,,,,

Sapna

 

J Chatterjee <jkconline (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

Dear balu,

Thanks for your reply. The best advice I can give is that you should chant the

Kali Beeja Mantra after proper initiation. As beeja mantra is a very powerful

mantra by its own rights, please go through proper initiation and abolution

process before you start.

 

Best Regards

J Chatterjeebalu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

Hi chatterjiee,

 

ok i agree with your facts. Do you have a simple mantras that can bring kali

into you body and souls.

 

Jai maa kali

baluJ Chatterjee <jkconline (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Balu,

I think Len is right, the mantra you are using is not a sanskara mantra and

neither it is the beeja mantra of maa kali. I dont think you should give them

out to people who are newly initiated in the devotion of Maa.

 

I am saying this with no ill feelings, and neither should it develop any such

feelings in you, but I am trying to guide you to the right path. I have been a

Kali bhakta for the past 14 years, and have been initiated my devotions in the

Dakshineshwar Temple in West bengal India, from where I received my education

for the devi's various form of worship, mantra and some parts of the tantra

rituals necessary for anyone doing Shakti sadhana.

 

J Chatterjee

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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They all ask Mother Kali to hack off the heads of your enemies and string them around her neck.

No, I'm kidding.

The bijas (seed syllables) like Krim, Hrim, Shrim, have no translation. They

just have effects when chanted. Namah means "I bow to you."

The longest mantra means:

Om kali kali mahakali (black goddess, black goddess, great black goddess)

Kalike papa harini (dear Kali, remover of sins)

dharmaartha mokshade devi (you grant virtue, wealth, and freedom)

Narayani namostute (goal of humanity, we offer you worship)

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike NamahOm Krim Kaliye NamahOm Kali kali

maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostuteThe

best one is: Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche NamahIt covers all

shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of Maha Kali or Maha

Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is

there some sort of translation for these? SkyeNo virus found in this outgoing

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Dear Skye,

Its nice to see you presenting the mantra's on the group. May I take the

oppertunity to explain their basis a bit more clearly:

 

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah: This is the dakshineswari mantra.

It does not have a histrory of its own, in terms of bhairavi mantra's, this has

no mention in the uccayana shastra, but its more populer amongst the kali

worshippers of bengal.

Om Krim Kaliye Namah, should be pronounced as OM KREEM KALIKAYE NAMAAH. This is

the BEEJA MANTRA of MAA. It is a powerful mantra, which needs to be initiated

through a guru on a specific time on either a saturday or Tuesday, and needs to

be chanted 108 times all days a week, or at-least on a sat and tue. Misuse or

disrespect of this mantra could bring in harm to the person and his

surroundings.

Om Kali kali maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani

namostute: This is the sanskrit mantra used generally for worship. It is part

of the chandika pujan mantra, and has a total of 32 stanza. This mantra has no

special meaning or power in it unless used or chanted in full and during maha

kaal nights.

Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah is the mantra of devi chamunda, and

CANNOT BE CONSIDERED a moola mantra for all forms of shakti. Its a auspicious

manta for people trying to practice the art of rudri or chamundi, but has

little relation with other bhairavi mantra's.

Thanks

J Chatterjee

 

Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike NamahOm Krim Kaliye NamahOm Kali kali

maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostuteThe

best one is: Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche NamahIt covers all

shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of Maha Kali or Maha

Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is

there some sort of translation for these? SkyeNo virus found in this outgoing

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Thank you very much! I'm new to all of this, and obviously have lots to learn.

 

Skye

 

 

At 23:11 19/12/04 -0800, you wrote:

 

>They all ask Mother Kali to hack off the heads of your enemies and string

>them around her neck.

>

>No, I'm kidding.

>

>The bijas (seed syllables) like Krim, Hrim, Shrim, have no

>translation. They just have effects when chanted. Namah means "I bow to you."

>

>The longest mantra means:

>

>Om kali kali mahakali (black goddess, black goddess, great black goddess)

>

>Kalike papa harini (dear Kali, remover of sins)

>

>dharmaartha mokshade devi (you grant virtue, wealth, and freedom)

>

>Narayani namostute (goal of humanity, we offer you worship)

>

>-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

--

 

 

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ok i make it clear i can see kali vadevam and i can talk to her whenever, she is inside of me.

it the gift that i got it from her, she is everying for me .

jai kali

balusapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

Balu

You mena Maa Kali ,,,, she herself gave you this Mantra.. pls clear

JAI KALI MAA

SAPNA

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Len Rosenberg,

 

This mantras is from kali that who gave it to me . Yes kali is my Kuladevata.

yes sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use .< Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108 > wrote:

Hi, Balu --

Who gave you this mantra? Did you get it from a Guru, from a book, from your

parents? Is Mother Kali your family's Kuladevata?

I'm certainly not saying that the mantra is not effective foir YOU. But it

doesn't sound like the sort of mantra that would usually come from a Guru. And

are you sure it is appropriate for Sapna to use?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

ok thanks ..

as from my view i am praying to kali since i was 3 yrs old, so i am using this

mantras, it can use to say as mantras or use as bhajans so pls Len Rosenberg. reply me .

sapna email <sapna208 > wrote:

 

 

THANK YOU,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT IF U HAVE MORE............. PLS GIVE ME

Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

The examples given by Balu Gopalan are NOT Kali mantras! They may be bhajans

(praises meant for singing). But mantras have a regular structure which uses

the dative case, and a verb form that means "I bow to you" or, "I make

offerings to you." There are occasional exceptions to this structure, but the

examples Balu gave don't sound right to me.

You'd get as much benefit from simply chanting "Kali Om!"

Unless She is your Family's patron deity, taking up a Kali practice requires a

certain amount of guidance from a Guru.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

 

balu gopalan <balugopalan .sg> wrote:

hi Sapna,

 

balu here ok very simple ok.

Just say om maha kali om sakthi om REPEAT(50 or 108 TIMES)

OR else say om maha kali ni namami Repeat(50 or 108 times)

 

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Namaste~

 

Forgive the question, but could you perhaps provide pronunciations?

 

Jai maa,

Malachi aka

Neelasitara

 

Kali_Ma, Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108>

wrote:

>

> They all ask Mother Kali to hack off the heads of your enemies and

string them around her neck.

>

> No, I'm kidding.

>

> The bijas (seed syllables) like Krim, Hrim, Shrim, have no

translation. They just have effects when chanted. Namah means "I

bow to you."

>

> The longest mantra means:

>

> Om kali kali mahakali (black goddess, black goddess, great black

goddess)

>

> Kalike papa harini (dear Kali, remover of sins)

>

> dharmaartha mokshade devi (you grant virtue, wealth, and freedom)

>

> Narayani namostute (goal of humanity, we offer you worship)

>

> -- Len/ Kalipadma

>

Skye <newskye@n...> wrote: Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike

Namah

> Om Krim Kaliye Namah

> Om Kali kali maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi

narayani namostute

> The best one is: Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah

> It covers all shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form

of Maha Kali or Maha Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.

>

> Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is there some

sort of translation for these?

>

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At 07:16 20/12/04 +0000, you wrote:

Dear Skye,

Its nice to see you presenting the mantra's on the group. May I take the

oppertunity to explain their basis a bit more clearly:

I haven't presented anything... I don't know anything! I'm just

interested inlearning more about this. I've just discovered Kali

not long ago, and although I do want to develop a relationship w/ her, I

don't know anything of the terminology you all use. Beeja

mantra? Moola mantra? I don't know anything about gurus or

why one would be necessary.

I mean no disrespect by this, but I truly don't understand why the

formality of specific numbers of repetitions on specific nights of words

in a language I dont know is necessary to connect w/ the goddess.

Truly, I mean this question sincerely.... could anyone shed light on this

for me? To embrace the goddess must we embrace the culture she's

most often worshipped in? If the goddess in universal then why

would it be necessary to worship in a foreign language, using words I

don't even understand and can't pronounce? Or is it?

Skye... most perplexed

Om Hrim Shrim

Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah: This is the dakshineswari mantra. It does

not have a histrory of its own, in terms of bhairavi mantra's, this has

no mention in the uccayana shastra, but its more populer amongst the kali

worshippers of bengal.

Om Krim Kaliye Namah, should be pronounced as OM

KREEM KALIKAYE NAMAAH. This is the BEEJA MANTRA of MAA. It is a powerful

mantra, which needs to be initiated through a guru on a specific time on

either a saturday or Tuesday, and needs to be chanted 108 times all days

a week, or at-least on a sat and tue. Misuse or disrespect of this mantra

could bring in harm to the person and his surroundings.

Om Kali kali maha kali kalike paapharini,

dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostute: This is the sanskrit mantra

used generally for worship. It is part of the chandika pujan mantra, and

has a total of 32 stanza. This mantra has no special meaning or power in

it unless used or chanted in full and during maha kaal nights.

Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah is

the mantra of devi chamunda, and CANNOT BE CONSIDERED a moola mantra for

all forms of shakti. Its a auspicious manta for people trying to practice

the art of rudri or chamundi, but has little relation with other bhairavi

mantra's.

Thanks

J Chatterjee

 

Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com>

wrote:

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah

Om Krim Kaliye Namah

Om Kali kali maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostute

The best one is: Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah

It covers all shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of Maha Kali

or Maha Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.

Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is there some sort of

translation for these?

Skye

 

 

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Dear Skye,

Thanks for your email, and its nice to learn your logic too.

 

In the universe, everything moves on a specific pattern, everything happens in a

specific pattern, all moves in a specific way, we take birth and die, all these

are natural or cosmic rules. In the same way, when you want to embrace certain

cosmic strengths or blessings like in hinduism we say, you have to walk a

specific way. Maa or Mother is universal and has neither religion or region to

be known or know, but if you follow a set path which has been followed proven,

your way becomes easier. Its more like trying to drive a BMW in autodrive

rather than shifting gears even when you know driving.

 

Hinduism is A 5000 YEAR OLD RELIGION, and because it still survives and

flourishes today, is the key element that all or most things that are practiced

and preached in it has a specific reason or essence of life and the super soul.

In one way,wearelucky to be born asaindu, than a lotof other people who comes

intothis fold from outside to find its light. I opeyou understand what Imean.

Also,ifyoulook at the depth of things, hinduism is not a religion but a way of

life by its own rights as well.

 

As far as the language is concerned or the pronounciation of it, if you have

read any of Dr Arther Haley's books (1876 - 1945), words are powers by

themselves, they generat certain vibrations in the cosmic world which brings

back the reaction to the speller. Thus, are these Beeja Mantra's, they are

actually the ROOT (english ROOT) mantra's which generates or creates certain

cosmic vibrations, bringing back the effects of the words on its user. In

hinduism we believe that the word OM is the first and last word in cosmology,

because while you pronounce this word, you use all three areas of your mouth,

meaning your lips, tongue and throat. Till now, there is NO OTHER WORD IN THE

HISTORY OF RELIGION that spells such a magical impact like OM. This is the

mother of all mantra's, or if you want to know in a modern man's language, its

a word which creates the maximum vibration on your physical self (try and see

by pronouncing softly with depth) as well as in the mental state, which can

be understood only when you advance in things. All the other Beeja Mantra's have

been born from the Root mantra or root word OM. Thus it is important that this

certain language or dialect is used when someone is serious and sincere in

practising this universal faith.

 

As far as a Guru is concerned, it may not be necessarily be a human guru as

such, though thats always is the first preference, because when you are in the

path of starting to practice POWER WORSHIP (Shakti puja) it is important that

you know things from someone who is more learned than you, else this turns more

towards occult rather than worship. There is a vast difference between the two.

Other guru's that are possible to attain the road to shakti worship can be

veda's and upanishads, the holy books of hindu religion, or even books written

by modern yogi's and practicers, though their numbers are fast diminishing

nowdays.

 

>From my 14 years experience in the worship of Maa Kali, whatever I have learned

or attained, hasn't come cheap or easy, neither I have seen the cosmic light in

the 7th day of my practice or the 7th year. Thus, you need to be patience, ask

questions, know more and a little more than more. Keep it up, if you are

aspired to attain, neither your language or region or religion will be a

barrier.

 

J Chatterjee

Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

At 07:16 20/12/04 +0000, you wrote:

Dear Skye,Its nice to see you presenting the mantra's on the group. May I take

the oppertunity to explain their basis a bit more clearly:I haven't presented

anything... I don't know anything! I'm just interested inlearning more about

this. I've just discovered Kali not long ago, and although I do want to

develop a relationship w/ her, I don't know anything of the terminology you all

use. Beeja mantra? Moola mantra? I don't know anything about gurus or why one

would be necessary. I mean no disrespect by this, but I truly don't understand

why the formality of specific numbers of repetitions on specific nights of

words in a language I dont know is necessary to connect w/ the goddess. Truly,

I mean this question sincerely.... could anyone shed light on this for me? To

embrace the goddess must we embrace the culture she's most often worshipped in?

If the goddess in

universal then why would it be necessary to worship in a foreign language, using

words I don't even understand and can't pronounce? Or is it?Skye... most

perplexed

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah: This is the dakshineswari mantra.

It does not have a histrory of its own, in terms of bhairavi mantra's, this has

no mention in the uccayana shastra, but its more populer amongst the kali

worshippers of bengal.Om Krim Kaliye Namah, should be pronounced as OM KREEM

KALIKAYE NAMAAH. This is the BEEJA MANTRA of MAA. It is a powerful mantra,

which needs to be initiated through a guru on a specific time on either a

saturday or Tuesday, and needs to be chanted 108 times all days a week, or

at-least on a sat and tue. Misuse or disrespect of this mantra could bring in

harm to the person and his surroundings.Om Kali kali maha kali kalike

paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostute: This is the sanskrit

mantra used generally for worship. It is part of the chandika pujan mantra, and

has a total of 32

stanza. This mantra has no special meaning or power in it unless used or chanted

in full and during maha kaal nights.Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah is

the mantra of devi chamunda, and CANNOT BE CONSIDERED a moola mantra for all

forms of shakti. Its a auspicious manta for people trying to practice the art

of rudri or chamundi, but has little relation with other bhairavi

mantra's.ThanksJ Chatterjee Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Om Hrim Shrim Krim Parameshwari Kalike Namah Om Krim Kaliye Namah Om Kali kali

maha kali kalike paapharini, dharamarth mokshade devi narayani namostute The

best one is: Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundaye Vicche Namah It covers all

shaktis and is a mool mantra of shakti either in form of Maha Kali or Maha

Laxmi or Maha Saraswati.

Forgive me if this is a totally daft question, but is there some sort of

translation for these?

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Hinduism is not a religion that seeks converts. Religions that proselytize

(like Christianity and Buddhism) often try to make their faiths more attractive

by translating their prayers and litanies into the languages of other peoples

who might be interested. An exception is Islam -- you become a Muslim, you

have to become famliar with the Koran, in Arabic!

In religions that do not seek converts (like Judaism, Hinduism, and Native

American paths), one sign that you are genuinely interested in studying their

faiths and worshipping their gods, is by picking up the prayers and rituals in

their original languages. Kabbalists believe that Hebrew has a magical effect,

the very letters of hebrew have magical correspondences revealed through

Gematria (a form of numerology).

Similarly, Hindus believe that Sanskrit is a magical language. The vibrations

of properly pronounced Sanskrit have effects on the material world. This is

why mantras don't work in translation -- only the Sanskrit sounds will have the

desired effect. Hindu deities will listen to anyone's prayers, but they will

respond better if you approach them with Sanskrit, and utilize the traditional

methods (making puja offerings, timing your prayers by astrological rules,

repeating mantras prescribed numbers of times, paying attention to what

specific gods like and dislike to be offered.

Bottom line is, Hinduism is NOT Neo-Paganism. You can't just make it up as you

go along, and good intentions aren't enough. If you make one step towards the

Devas, they will respond with many steps towards you, but that first step is

going to be in Sanskrit. Even badly pronounced Sanskrit is better than no

Sanskrit. There are places where cultures have pronounced Sanskrit with their

own unique linguistic quirks (China, Tibet, Japan, Indonesia) and the mantras

sound different, but they work!

There are Neo-Pagans (frequently feminists and Goth kids) who worship Kali with

the best intentions, and only in English. I don't know if their prayers work.

But what they are doing is not Hinduism, it is Neo-Paganism flavored with curry.

Your best bet in starting out in Sanskrit mantra is to resort to the AUM

(sometimes spelled OM). Most prayers begin with AUM, it's the sound of the

universe, and by chanting AUM you get the gods' attention. The bija (seed

syllable) for Kali Ma is KRIM. Simply chanting AUM KRIM KRIM KRIM will begin

to bring Kali's attention into your life.

Be aware that Kali's power is to take things away. She will remove your

sadness, your confusion, your anger. She will eventually remove your physical

body, but that was only yours on loan from her, anyway. She is best approached

when the Moon is waning. Kali is my spiritual mother, and she is very good at

protecting her children.

Your mileage may vary.

-- Len/ Black Lotus

Enticed is the bee of my mind/ by the black lotus feet of my divine mother.//

Skye <newskye (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote: At 07:16 20/12/04 +0000, you wrote:

Dear Skye,Its nice to see you presenting the mantra's on the group. May I take

the oppertunity to explain their basis a bit more clearly:I haven't presented

anything... I don't know anything! I'm just interested inlearning more about

this. I've just discovered Kali not long ago, and although I do want to

develop a relationship w/ her, I don't know anything of the terminology you all

use. Beeja mantra? Moola mantra? I don't know anything about gurus or why one

would be necessary. I mean no disrespect by this, but I truly don't understand

why the formality of specific numbers of repetitions on specific nights of

words in a language I dont know is necessary to connect w/ the goddess. Truly,

I mean this question sincerely.... could anyone shed light on this for me? To

embrace the goddess must we embrace the culture she's most often worshipped in?

If the goddess in

universal then why would it be necessary to worship in a foreign language, using

words I don't even understand and can't pronounce? Or is it?Skye... most

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Hello Skye and group members,

 

"Worship me at home, in language from the heart".

 

This is advice I received from one of the major Kali temples in

Calcutta (Adyar Peeth).

 

I want to say that in India itself there are many different answers

to the questions you have raised. Some people may believe it is

important to worship Kali in Sanskrit, however others use a variety

of vernacular languages -- i.e. languages of everyday conversation.

 

Personally, I talk with Kali mainly in English, because this is the

vernacular i grew up with, and is the language of my heart. Because

Kali has spoken to me in dreams, and English happens to be the

language she used.

 

I do use Sanskrit in worship too, not because i m convinced of the

intrinsic power of Sanskrit words (though i know others believe in

this); but because there is something important about sharing a hymn

that has been used for many centuries, speaking the same words in

the same language that devotees have used for so long.

 

Has this done anything for your perplexity, Skye?

 

Best wishes

 

Colin

 

 

 

 

Kali_Ma, Skye <newskye@n...> wrote:

> At 07:16 20/12/04 +0000, you wrote:

> >Dear Skye,

> >Its nice to see you presenting the mantra's on the group. May I

take the

> >oppertunity to explain their basis a bit more clearly:

>

> I haven't presented anything... I don't know anything! I'm just

interested

> inlearning more about this. I've just discovered Kali not long

ago, and

> although I do want to develop a relationship w/ her, I don't know

anything

> of the terminology you all use. Beeja mantra? Moola mantra? I

don't know

> anything about gurus or why one would be necessary.

>

> I mean no disrespect by this, but I truly don't understand why the

> formality of specific numbers of repetitions on specific nights of

words in

> a language I dont know is necessary to connect w/ the goddess.

Truly, I

> mean this question sincerely.... could anyone shed light on this

for

> me? To embrace the goddess must we embrace the culture she's most

often

> worshipped in? If the goddess in universal then why would it be

necessary

> to worship in a foreign language, using words I don't even

understand and

> can't pronounce? Or is it?

>

> Skye... most perplexed

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Kali_Ma, Skye <newskye@n...> wrote:

>

> Thank you very much! I'm new to all of this, and obviously have

lots to learn.

>

> Skye

 

To tell you the truth, Skye, one thing you DON'T

have to learn are fancy Sanskrit mantras. While

shaktism has it's roots in hinduism and Sanskrit,

the fact is that Mother hears all languages

equally. You can chant in English, Spanish or

any other language you happen to use. Ma Kali

doesn't hear the words, She hears the intention.

 

Sincerity will win out over proper pronounciation,

Every single time.

 

--jody.

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Hi,

 

Sincerity does win in the case of prayer. Mantras are also used for healing, cleansing and increasing one's awareness. For the intended benefit to occur, and activating specific chakras, you really want to pronounce the Sanskrit syllables right. Its best to get an audio CD, or listen to available mp3s online.

 

I can pronounce Sanskrit well, but wherever I can't find the original Sanskrit script, I look for the audio file, or check with a pundit.

 

Cheers!

 

 

Sincerity will win out over proper pronounciation,

Every single time.

 

--jody.