information,please

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You can probably rewrite the Sanskrit prayers to make

vegetarian food into prasadam for Kali Ma. What do

the Vaishnava prayers look like? I can apply my

limited knowledge of Sanskrit towards changing

references to Krishna into references to Kali.

 

Both the Krishna and Kali cults originated in ancient

Bengal, after all. And one reason why many Vaishnavas

are uncomfortable with Kali is because she so much

resembles Krishna.

 

Krishna is infinitely attractive on the outside, but

beneath the surface he's somewhat scary. Kali is

somewhat scary on the outside, but beneath the surface

she's infinitely attractive. Kali is Krishna, inside

out!

 

You probably would like to see the Kali Puja book,

published by the Devi Mandir in California,

translations by Swami Satyananda and the Bengali holy

woman, Shree Maa. Try <www.shreemaa.org>

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

--- FAITH NYKIEL <faithmariecats wrote:

> Hello! I have been interested in Ma Kali for a

> while. Chanting "OM KLIM (or KRIM) KALIKAYEI NAMAHA"

> is fine, but I want to do more. I am quite familiar

> with ISKCON, and how certain Sanskrit prayers are

> recited over (vegetarian!) food to turn same into

> prasadam. I should wish to do the same for

> Ma.E-mailing Kali Mandir was fruitless; they offered

> no help other than saying I should pray to Ma for a

> Guru. (I am.) I live in Chicago without a car,so I

> cannot even go to the Hindu temple in Lemont. I want

> to show Ma more affection, more worship. Any

> suggestions,please??

>

 

 

 

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Jai Kali Ma.

 

Jay.Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:

You can probably rewrite the Sanskrit prayers to makevegetarian food into

prasadam for Kali Ma. What dothe Vaishnava prayers look like? I can apply

mylimited knowledge of Sanskrit towards changing references to Krishna into

references to Kali.Both the Krishna and Kali cults originated in ancientBengal,

after all. And one reason why many Vaishnavasare uncomfortable with Kali is

because she so muchresembles Krishna. Krishna is infinitely attractive on the

outside, butbeneath the surface he's somewhat scary. Kali issomewhat scary on

the outside, but beneath the surfaceshe's infinitely attractive. Kali is

Krishna, insideout!You probably would like to see the Kali Puja book,published

by the Devi Mandir in California,translations by Swami Satyananda and the

Bengali

holywoman, Shree Maa. Try <www.shreemaa.org>-- Len/ Kalipadma--- FAITH NYKIEL

<faithmariecats > wrote:> Hello! I have been interested in Ma Kali

for a> while. Chanting "OM KLIM (or KRIM) KALIKAYEI NAMAHA"> is fine, but I

want to do more. I am quite familiar> with ISKCON, and how certain Sanskrit

prayers are> recited over (vegetarian!) food to turn same into> prasadam. I

should wish to do the same for> Ma.E-mailing Kali Mandir was fruitless; they

offered> no help other than saying I should pray to Ma for a> Guru. (I am.) I

live in Chicago without a car,so I> cannot even go to the Hindu temple in

Lemont. I want> to show Ma more affection, more worship. Any>

suggestions,please??> Discover Find restaurants, movies,

travel and more fun for the weekend.

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[Guest guest]

Kali Ma can be called Krishnaa (long final "a").

Similarly, Krishna is called "Shyam," Kali is called

"Shyamaa." (Both mean "dark.")

 

But there has historically been great rivalry between

adherents of Krishna and adherents of Kali, especially

in Bengal. Krishna worshippers tend to be fearful of

Kali (I note that the Vedic Resources catalog

published by the Hare Krishnas -- ISKCON -- never

sells Kali images or religious items). And many Kali

worshippers tend to be dismissive of Krishna.

 

Sigh. Of course, all the deities are really the same.

 

There is an interesting scholarly text by David

Kinsley called "The Sword and the Flute," which

compares Kali worship with Krishna worship.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

--- Jay Dayal <jai_dayal wrote:

> From the little I know, KRISHNA IS ALSO ANOTHER NAME

> OF KALI. I have seen many images which depict Kali

> Ma as Krishna in Vrindavan. Kali also incarnated to

> kill Demons from womb of Yashoda. But after taking

> birth she went away to kill the Demon.

> Jai Kali Ma.

>

> Jay.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm new to this group or any group but not to Mother/Lover Kali. It has been

9yrs since I was first introduced sort of by accident. It's a long story. I am

awriter and do attempt to communicate via writing.

My reaching out and offering to share to share from experience. You, I, we

can argue forever about points of law. If that is your attraction to Mother

Kali

you have my sympathy.

I like the example Ramakrishna gave of holding a disciples head under

water. He asked what it was like when he came up.

I long for Mother Kali in all her forms like a drowning child gasps for air.

thank you. please forgive my arrogance.

Kali_Ma, FAITH NYKIEL <faithmariecats>

wrote:

> Hello! I have been interested in Ma Kali for a while. Chanting "OM KLIM (or

KRIM) KALIKAYEI NAMAHA" is fine, but I want to do more. I am quite familiar

with ISKCON, and how certain Sanskrit prayers are recited over (vegetarian!)

food to turn same into prasadam. I should wish to do the same for Ma.E-

mailing Kali Mandir was fruitless; they offered no help other than saying I

should pray to Ma for a Guru. (I am.) I live in Chicago without a car,so I

cannot

even go to the Hindu temple in Lemont. I want to show Ma more affection,

more worship. Any suggestions,please??

> Also, I read in a book written by an initiated ISKCON devotee that Our Lady

of Czestohowa a/k/a the Black Madonna are one and the same. Is this true?

> (F.Y.I.---I have access to a computer only on Wednesdays, so that's the only

time I can leave a long message. I am able to e-mail from my cell phone, but

with only very brief messages.)

> Thank You Very Kindly!!!

>

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