Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Kali_Ma, "John" <brightasafig> wrote: > > Can someone help me? I was talking to a sadhu outsidea closed shop > in Rameshwaram one evening, and he told me about the 4 yogas, form > the Bhadavad Gita. One was selfless service. I think it was Jnana. > Could someone point out a website where I can learn about it? > > John The term "jnana" describes a special kind of knowledge of the absolute, or reality, known as "Brahman." Jnana yoga is commonly known as the yoga of knowledge, but the word "knowledge" has a special connotation and is different from the term "knowledge" as it is commonly used by English speakers. Here is a link which describes the four yogas in brief: http://vedanta.org/wiv/practice/yogas/yoga.html --jody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Thank you. I remembered it different. So I suppose it's Karma Yoga I'm thinking about. But I remember one of the yogas being Kama, i.e. the way of loving someone as opposed to Bhakti which is the way of loving the devinity. I also remember Raja Yoga being more about intellect, philosophy, than meditation. Well if you pick up these things in Third Class Indian Railways carriages, you can expect some oddities! John Kali_Ma, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr> wrote: > > Kali_Ma, "John" <brightasafig> wrote: > > > > Can someone help me? I was talking to a sadhu outsidea closed shop > > in Rameshwaram one evening, and he told me about the 4 yogas, form > > the Bhadavad Gita. One was selfless service. I think it was Jnana. > > Could someone point out a website where I can learn about it? > > > > John > > The term "jnana" describes a special kind of knowledge > of the absolute, or reality, known as "Brahman." Jnana > yoga is commonly known as the yoga of knowledge, but the > word "knowledge" has a special connotation and is different > from the term "knowledge" as it is commonly used by English > speakers. > > Here is a link which describes the four yogas in brief: > > http://vedanta.org/wiv/practice/yogas/yoga.html > > --jody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: > There are 4 prime Yoga's as per Yog Upanishad the 3rd book of > the upanishad's, written approximately 1500 years before the > birth of Christ. they are Karma, Raj, Bhakti and Kriya yoga. > > There is nothign called Kama yoga, its probably a make up of > mythology by the minds of people who thinks sex is a intregrated > part of religion or like holistic self styled yogi's like rajnish, > who called himself bhagwan or god. Your personal opinion about the Bhagwan Rajneesh is noted. While I am not particularly a fan of his either, the fact is that his iconoclastic notions have proved very valuable for many sadhakas, in his lifetime and beyond. While "kama" yoga may not be mentioned in the Upanishads, it can be a effective practice for certain individuals. Sex is just as much a pathway to understanding as any other activity. It may not be the best path for most, but it most certainly is for some, regardless of what the purity-obsessed Brahmanical class has to say about it. --jody. > Last but not the least, "third class Indian railways" is a > step short of being a raciest remark. > > Jogayak Chatterjee > > John <brightasafig> wrote: > > Thank you. I remembered it different. So I suppose it's Karma Yoga > I'm thinking about. But I remember one of the yogas being Kama, i.e. > the way of loving someone as opposed to Bhakti which is the way of > loving the devinity. I also remember Raja Yoga being more about > intellect, philosophy, than meditation. Well if you pick up these > things in Third Class Indian Railways carriages, you can expect some > oddities! John > > Kali_Ma, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr> wrote: > > > > Kali_Ma, "John" <brightasafig> wrote: > > > > > > Can someone help me? I was talking to a sadhu outsidea closed > shop > > > in Rameshwaram one evening, and he told me about the 4 yogas, > form > > > the Bhadavad Gita. One was selfless service. I think it was > Jnana. > > > Could someone point out a website where I can learn about it? > > > > > > John > > > > The term "jnana" describes a special kind of knowledge > > of the absolute, or reality, known as "Brahman." Jnana > > yoga is commonly known as the yoga of knowledge, but the > > word "knowledge" has a special connotation and is different > > from the term "knowledge" as it is commonly used by English > > speakers. > > > > Here is a link which describes the four yogas in brief: > > > > http://vedanta.org/wiv/practice/yogas/yoga.html > > > > --jody. > > > > > > > Links > > > Kali_Ma/ > > > Kali_Ma > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: > Dear Jodyrrr, > > When we are speaking about sadhana or prayers or moksha whatever > name you may like to call it, we speak and think of it from the > references that have been made in the primary books of Hindu > theology, which itself shines as bright as a llight to show the > way to those who seeks or deserves to get, for the past 5000 years. > rajnish or sex has nothing to do here, neither does anything that > is related to any individuals achievement. > > Jogayak Chatterjee "That about which in the Vedas and the Puranas it is said, 'Don't do this, this shouldn't be done," in the Tantras is called good." --Ramakrishna You may choose to ignore tantra, but to do so is to ignore the most effective means of personal and spiritual transformation, IMO. In addition, much of shaktism in Kerala and Bengal has its roots in tantrism. So, to ignore the tantric is to ignore the primary means Mother has given us to enjoy a relationship with Her. Finally, read the Devi Bhagavatam. It has more sex in its pages than everything Hollywood has ever produced, and it's all about Ma. Ma Kali as I know Her is all about sex. Sex is the primary manifesting principle of the Mahashakti. It's clear and obvious to anyone whose head is not polluted with ridiculous Brahminical prohibitions and inhibitions. --jody. > > > jodyrrr <jodyrrr> wrote: > > Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: > > There are 4 prime Yoga's as per Yog Upanishad the 3rd book of > > the upanishad's, written approximately 1500 years before the > > birth of Christ. they are Karma, Raj, Bhakti and Kriya yoga. > > > > There is nothign called Kama yoga, its probably a make up of > > mythology by the minds of people who thinks sex is a intregrated > > part of religion or like holistic self styled yogi's like rajnish, > > who called himself bhagwan or god. > > Your personal opinion about the Bhagwan Rajneesh is noted. > While I am not particularly a fan of his either, the fact > is that his iconoclastic notions have proved very valuable > for many sadhakas, in his lifetime and beyond. > > While "kama" yoga may not be mentioned in the Upanishads, > it can be a effective practice for certain individuals. > Sex is just as much a pathway to understanding as any other > activity. It may not be the best path for most, but it most > certainly is for some, regardless of what the purity-obsessed > Brahmanical class has to say about it. > > --jody. > > > Last but not the least, "third class Indian railways" is a > > step short of being a raciest remark. > > > > Jogayak Chatterjee > > > > > > John <brightasafig> wrote: > > > > Thank you. I remembered it different. So I suppose it's Karma Yoga > > I'm thinking about. But I remember one of the yogas being Kama, i.e. > > the way of loving someone as opposed to Bhakti which is the way of > > loving the devinity. I also remember Raja Yoga being more about > > intellect, philosophy, than meditation. Well if you pick up these > > things in Third Class Indian Railways carriages, you can expect some > > oddities! John > > > > Kali_Ma, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr> wrote: > > > > > > Kali_Ma, "John" <brightasafig> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can someone help me? I was talking to a sadhu outsidea closed > > shop > > > > in Rameshwaram one evening, and he told me about the 4 yogas, > > form > > > > the Bhadavad Gita. One was selfless service. I think it was > > Jnana. > > > > Could someone point out a website where I can learn about it? > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > The term "jnana" describes a special kind of knowledge > > > of the absolute, or reality, known as "Brahman." Jnana > > > yoga is commonly known as the yoga of knowledge, but the > > > word "knowledge" has a special connotation and is different > > > from the term "knowledge" as it is commonly used by English > > > speakers. > > > > > > Here is a link which describes the four yogas in brief: > > > > > > http://vedanta.org/wiv/practice/yogas/yoga.html > > > > > > --jody. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Kali_Ma/ > > > > > > Kali_Ma > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > > > > > Links > > > Kali_Ma/ > > > Kali_Ma > > > > > > > > The all-new My – Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: [snip] > Ramkrishna was never a tantrik. The rest of your puritanical diatribe was bad enough, but the statement above is absolutely and incredibly ludicrous. Regardless of where you took your initiation and where you live, you obviously know NOTHING about Ramakrishna, IMO. I'll point you to http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kalischi/ and leave it at that. You are clearly much too narrow-minded and ideologically bound to continue the discussion with. --jody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: > Jody, > > As the saying goes, "never spill pearl before the pig". I > would also not like to waste the pearl of my wisdom with > someone ..... and the great feelings of being a hindu, > morally and spiritually. > > Jogayak Chatterjee Please refer to my previous post: "Kali, Ramakrishna and Tantra" for a better understanding of the reality of Ramakrishna's tantric sadhana and his belief and recommendation of tantrism as an effective approach to spiritual discipline. --jody. > jodyrrr <jodyrrr> wrote: > > Kali_Ma, J Chatterjee <jkconline> wrote: > > [snip] > > > Ramkrishna was never a tantrik. > > The rest of your puritanical diatribe was bad > enough, but the statement above is absolutely > and incredibly ludicrous. > > Regardless of where you took your initiation > and where you live, you obviously know NOTHING > about Ramakrishna, IMO. > > I'll point you to http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kalischi/ > and leave it at that. You are clearly much too > narrow-minded and ideologically bound to continue > the discussion with. > > --jody. > > > > > > > Links > > > Kali_Ma/ > > > Kali_Ma > > > > > > > > Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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