Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 sri: Jaisreemannarayana! Dear Devotees and Ramanuja ji : adiyen's humble pranams. Qs: >Q: As Mr. Sreenivas mentioned is Sai Baba's message >received and passed by the lineage from God. Ans: adiyEn does not much know about this person (or Guru), we do know that he is NOT an Acharya in Bhagawath Ramanuja's lineage as per the GuruParanampara of SriVaishnavism, (Started by Lord, Sriman Narayana) LaksmiNatha Samarambham, Natha Yamuna Madhyamam .............. About FAKE GURUS: There are fakes out there, they give their own opinions on purpose of life. Some fake Gurus call themselves as GOD, some say "I AM GOD", or "ALL OF US ARE GODS". - These are fakes and are damaging. Ask these people do they know the meaning of GOD (The Supreme Being) Ask them then, are they Supreme Being (The Greatest Being, Authority on all 3 lokas, including the BhuLoka we live in) Such fake gurus can not help us understand the purpose of life, or help us acheive this purpose. Some fake gurus do magic tricks & create matter. No one can create anything from Nothing. (Only LORD can do that). If a fake guru is able to create something say 'one bag of rice and dal". Please ask them to create 1000000 tons of Rice and Dal and help solve world humger. Stay away from such Fake gurus, who perform tricks here and there. Bonafide Acharyas are full of Humility (Devoid of Ahankara, Mamakara) Ceratinly anybody who claims to be GOD does NOT have humility. Great teachers, Shankaracharya, Ramanujacharya, Madhwacharya etc were so so very humble. A bonafide Acharya does not need to perform any magic or tricks. He does not give HIS opinion, he speaks exactly what LORD revealed as the Purpose of life. (via the disciplinic succession) Bhagawath Gita: 4: 2 ================= evAm paramparA-prAptam imam rajarsayo viduh sa kAleneha mahatA yogo naStaH parantapa "The Real Science, was this received via a disciplinic succession (lineage)..... A bonafide Acharya does not change the Real Science, or alter it, He revels it AS IS. HH Narayana Ramanuja Chinna Jeeyar Swami is in this disciplinic succession. Qs: >Q: You mentioned Acharya is Like god, is there any >proof for this. (or is it just a feeling) Ans: Acharya to be treated as Lord Himself. In Srimad Bhagawatham 11.17.26 ==================================================== AcAryam mAm vijAniyAn nAvamanyeta karchit na martya-buddhyAsUyeta sarva-devamayo guruh "One should understand the Acharya to be as Me, Never think of Acharya as a ordinary man. because HE is sum total of all the devas" Acharya is identified with GOD himself. He has the capacity to deliver to us, fallen souls to the LORD (Make us acheive the purpose of life) Read this Carefully: We the intitated devotees, treat Acharya as GOD Himself, but a Acharya never calls himself GOD. He is pained to see suffering of all being and wants help them in every way in this life & also to attain Moksha. One of HH Chinna Jeeyar Swami's message: "Serve All beings as Service to God." You can visit chinnajeeyar.org to see all the service being led by HH. >From Gujarat Earthquake to NY 09/11 disaster all the time HH announced releif activites right away. Qs : >(How do we know one Acharya is in the lineage Started >by GOD.)Is the RamanujaSampradaaya the only one started by >GOD, or are there any other ones? Ans: Lord, Srimannarayana reveals himself to all beings in a form and manner that the beings can understand. We know of Gaudiya Viahsnava parampara, they are in the US as ISKCON. There might be others as well with Lord as the first Acharya, but if you want us to say of one Parampara that adiyEn is sure 100% about it is the SriVaishnava Parampara. As the message given by Lord Narayana, to Lakshmi to Vishwaksena.... till Ramanuja is is same that we still receive today upon initiation. (It is upto us the devotees after getting intiated and fully surrendered to our Acharya to learn from HIM) Qs >Q: All that is sought in spiritual knowledge is >Chit, Achit & Ishwara, or is there more. Ans: There is so much more, but all that this knowledge does to us is, make us realize the purpose of our life and helps us get there. (Moksha), with HIS Grace. e.g: Artha Panchaka : 1. Who am I 2. Who is God, 3. How can one Achieve the purpose of Live(Moksha), 4. What are the obstacles to this 5. How to overcome these obstacles. To learn the answers to these questions you need a bonafide Acharya. Just reading a book will not help. Artha Panchaka is just an example adiyEn used, there is so so smuch of Real Education we need to get. Qs: >(Why you say just reading from a book is not enough, >and that you need the acharya to teach this) Ans:- Material Science can be read from a book, and you can go to a Metirial School and learn even become a Nobel Prize winner, but in your next life you do not know what you will be. You are back to Square One. What use is this education in the long run for the Atma. If you are being born again and again in the BhuLoka. For the real purpose of life we seek Spiritual Education. We can read the Mula Granthas (original texts, like Bhgawath Gita, Vedas, Dhivya Prabhandas etc) from books tapes, cds etc. but to understand the meanings we need a Bonafide Acharya. Because of our imperfect perceptions, we cannot undertand the text as it is meant to be, but Acharya does know the correct interpretations. In the absence of proper disciplinary training through a Bonafide Acharya, we (the fallen souls) are sure to err in some form or the other. In the Padma Purana: ================= sampradAya-vihIna ye mantras te nisphalA mataH 'Unless intiated by a bonafide spiritual master, the mantras you receive is without any effect." Dear Devotees: Our knowledge is tooo imperfect, poor and inconsistent, Our senses are so imperfect and our abilities to understand are so limited, that it is not possible for us to have any way or means to realize the purpose of life. We should surrender ourselves (it is a one time act, once we actually surrender, we stop obstructing HIS grace) to the lotus feet of Bhagawath Ramanuja & his Representative (Bonafide Acharya). Bhagawath Gita (4:34) as also mentioned by sri Seshagiri ji. tad viddhi pranipathena pariprasnena sevaya....... We are so so so very blessed to have HH Narayana "RAMANUJA" Chinna Jeeyar swami teach us all the way from India over the tele-bridge. Every day at 9:30 PM CST. (During Dhanur masa) and after wards every Wednesday at 8:00PM CST. This type of accessibility to an Acharya and the oppurtunity to learn from him comes only to a very very selected souls. We are so blessed, and should not resist the grace of the Lord that flows via HH to us. (Bridge# 405 244 5555, Code: 1533, Dial in during the discourse hours) These answers are getting very very long and detailed, if others are getting pained by these long mails, adiyEn will take this discussion offline. But these Qs are very valid and adiyEn is very happy if these discussions lead to a interest in the Guruparampara and Sampradaya, more importantly if Ramanuja ji and others who have not been intitiated yet, learn more and get intiated and start the soul's destined journey to Moksha. a:zhwa:r emberuma:na:r Jeeyar thiruvadigale: saranam adiye:n ra:ma:nuja da:san Mukundan Vankipuram Pattangi http://www.chinnajeeyar.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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