certain traditions

[Guest guest]

It is the creative power of God at work,

for without that there can be no life on earth.

The periodic cycle time is considered by some to

be a negative flow of energy out of the body because

it symbolizes destruction not life since no conception

took place.

 

I beleive that much of the taboos surrounding this

has to do with early hygiene issues and hence

restrictions for a woman.

 

Also some rituals are said to have some magical

power which can be disturbed by a woman during that

time who is not considred clean and pure.

 

I don't believe this and I prefer to believe that

women should debunk these myths by fully participate

in life, except if they feel tired or ill. For may

women this period is also one of great discomfort.

 

But this should not make us any lesser than men in

being able to pray and commune with God and live a

fuller life.

[Guest guest]

Namaste Indraniji,

 

Everything in the nature is creation of the divine, including the periods of

women. There is no need for apology or guilt. At the same time we should not

reject the restrictions within the traditions just because some of the

restrictions acquired narrow meanings today. I guess the real meaning of the

restrictions was forgotten. We can find scientific meanings if any, but we

should not limit our analysis to scientific meanings. There may be other

intangible and psychological aspects.

 

There is also a tradition that a woman becomes free from all sins after the

seeing rajas (period). For men there are mantras in sandhya vandanam to

remove sin (yadrAtrAH kurute pApam tadrAtrAh pratimucyate, karAm

udareNa...).

 

The beauty of our traditions is that the concept of sin is not externally

imposed. It must be tackled internally by ourselves. Every fraction of

second we are fighting between dharma and adharma within our mind; and we

must let dharma win every fraction of a second. But how to define dharma or

adharma within such minute micro-second time frame? We can only do it by

harmonizing our body and mind and doing justice to every part of the system

and not do injustice to any part. If we condemn a woman's period as lowly,

it is not justice. A man or a woman is not doing justice to himself/herself

by such condemnation.

 

Regards

Bhadraiah

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaskar My Friends and thank you for adding us to your list

 

My thoughts were What had happened to the Mankind and Womankind and the

World where women were considered impure when in the process of Purification

that is the very basis of Human Life on Earth and the very basis of Human

Evolution

 

There would be not Mankind without Women. There would be no human race

without women. Narayana is not complete unless united with Sri; so why are

people being made to believe woman are impure at any time.

 

Women are never ever impure at anytime in their lifetime and especially when

based on incomplete thought process concluding such a ridiculous belief

that can actually cause psychological damage to millions of women generation

after generation

 

Woman are pure all days of the month. Things that serve the purpose

in the body will leave the body after the purpose is done.

 

I know some will not agree with what we are saying however I am really happy

you have mentioned this in public forum and sent your message to us here at

Rudra Center and I thought it best if I supported all you are saying

 

Thank You and Take Care My Friends

 

Look forward to being part of your community

Lokaa Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu : )

 

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Nagpur Maharashtra

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I am not a person to decide what is right or wrong, i don't say what

i am saying now is correct, i am just presenting my IDEA ,I'm Sorry

if it hurts any one,

I have been listening this from child, that this is a Male Dominated

world,All the women are dominated by male , tortured by male etc..

Even i am listening the same idea in this Group mail, like women have

restrictions.

 

If we look into our History or Puranas, women are in very high

position.

Sri Narayanaa him self placed Sri in His Heart, who is women.

Sri Shiva placed Sri Pravathi in His Half, who is women.

Sri Rama loved Sri Seetha, who is women.

Sri Krishna loved Sri Radha who is women,

Shivaji and Rama Krishna Pramahamsa worshiped Sri Kali and dedicated

their life, who is women.

Gadhi walked with to 2 women, and he considered them as His mother.

Indira Gandhi was priminister of India,

Queen Victoria was the Queen of England.

 

I think with just little of incidents happend here are there we

should not think that this is A Male Dominated world.

I think it is in our mind.

As a Biology Student i understand that the periods of women and just

a natural process and there is nothing impure in it.I also understand

that at that period they feel discomfort because of the Biological

Process.

I want ask only one question, do any one wants to temple before

taking bath or with discomfort?

No, i think it is the reason why the restrictions are applied, and it

doesn't related to women are impure.

 

All these are just my ideas,

 

thanks

[Guest guest]

SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA

 

I have something to say regarding the the question of impurity of

women on those three days.

 

For the past 8 years we have been doing the homa AGNIHOTHRA every day

during sunrise and sunset. We started doing this after we listened to

an exposition by a Vedic research group which had drawn inputs from

some German scientists who had gone into the question of why only two

families in the vicinity of Union Carbide plant in Bhopal in India

survived the calamity when the poisonous gas leaked out of the

factory in the early eighties.

 

The families, being not in a position to run away from the home as

others did (and subsequently died too)started doing this homa and

continued to keep up the fire with the offerings (raw rice)and the

homa smoke saved them by nutralising the poisonous chemical fumes in

the air. The point that I am going to say here is that the German

team which used all poosible scientific tools to find out what

happens when the agnihothra is being done, could not find a

satisfactory expanation to only one aspect.

 

It was found out that just a two-liner manthra said in sankrit only-

(verses in German or any other language with the similar meaning

could not provide the same desired result) along with the specified

ingredients and done by anybody -say a boy or a girl or a woman or a

man or any person of any caste or in any condition, say after a bath

even if not have taken bath, could release more than 100 oxides that

are capable of purifying the air and even nuetralising the radiation.

But the homa when done by a woman in those three days could not

produce the same, desired results!

 

The homa is done using some copper vessels of certain dimensions

(Copper produced maximum results)and if the woman came into contact

with the vessels or the ingredients at the time of doing the homa, it

was found out that the results were almost nil. If the woman (in

those days) touches the person when he is doing the homa, once again

the results were nil. The scientists have no answer for this.

 

But the one clue which we get is that the homa, if done with the

corners of the homa-pot pointing to north and south pole, once again

could not produce the desired results.

 

The so-called impurity is only 'so-called'. It might have something

to do with some release of energy or radiation from thre body at that

time. Photo analysis by kirlean photography might perhaps give us a

clue as to what happens then. That is the time of flushing out of the

body the dead matter which, if fertised could have given rise to the

birth of a living person. This material must have had its own astral

radiation and when this matter with a decaying astral body is

released out of the parent astral body which is quite vibrant, some

resultant radiation-amalgam might take place which can not occur in

other bodies and on other occasions. Has any analysis in terms of

Kirlean photography of the woman during this time taken place? That

might tell us more about this.

 

On the other hand all this talk of impurity is the result of a

jugglery of words. In olden days when every activity was done with

some kind of religious ritual, the complete exclusion of the woman in

those three days might have become a necessity. Today as most our

religious activities are in the form of prayers (a kind of self

hypnosis)with utmost exclusion of rituals such as agnihothra there

need not be any apprehension about this exclusion. But I think women

can avoid close proximity when mantra - rituals are going on in order

to enable the rituals gain maximum benefits.

 

jayasree sarnathan