VEdas are Apourusheyas

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Sri RAmajayam

SrimathE GOpAla DEsikA MahA DEsikAya Namaha

 

Dear BhagavathAs,

 

Paramahamsa Parivrajakacharya His Holiness Sri Sri Sri

Tridandi Srimannarayana Ramanuja Chinna Jeeyar Swami

and many BhagvathAs like Dhruba have already stated

"Vaidhika" point of views on VEdas. AdiyEn summarizes

below for the purpose of providing the complete picture

on this topic,

 

Those who believe in "Vaidhika Dharma"(or VEdas)

believe it as ApourushEyas. VEdas like Atma is

indestructible and AnAthi(primal without origin). This

means there is no creator. So if we put it this

way, the soul (realized) is also primal like

AporushEyas. So this way VEdas serve as the bridge

between us(JeevAtma) and the Supreme(ParamAtma) and is

called UbhAyam(way, help etc).

 

Knowing the VEdas(Memorizing, Understanding, Following,

Preaching, Realizing) help us know the

Tattva(Chit-Achit-Iswaran), Hitha(SaranAgathi),

PurushArtas(Nitya Kaimkaryam or MOksham or Eternal

bliss) and achieve the same. Else one has to atleast

seek the feet of such a realized soul(Acharya) and

follow his order to achieve the same.

 

Now the question is how come Rishis rendered it.

Simply put it, Rishis have achieved SAdhana with

DhyAnam, with the help of ParamAtma and preached this

knowledge for the welfare of humanity and it is not

thought by them. Time and again humanity/DEvas lose

this knowledge and lack the SAdhana to know the way

out of suffering. In some cases their learning gets

stolen by AsurAs(Madhu, Kaidhaban) too. So humanity

is left to suffer, that they know no other way than to

seek Sriman NArAyana's mercy.

 

By his mercy Sriman NArAyana acted as an Acharya to

propagate the VEdas and explain its

meaning(HayagrIva). This is one of the foremost help

God has rendered us. Repeatedly he had made AvatAras

to show us the Vaidhika SampradAyam or to restore

Dharma(Vaidhikam). By his limitless mercy

he/Nityasuris appear again and again to save humanity

from the suffering of SamsAra. To this date we have

Sri Vaishnava AcharyAs who propagate our Parama

Vaidhika Matham(VisistAdvaitam or Sri Vaishnavam) and

they are to be treated as God himself!

 

 

AdiyEn hope the text above summarizes the complete

understanding on this topic, if not AdiyEn sincerely

believes BhagavathAs should seek the feet of Sri

Vaishnava Acharya and undergo Grantha KAlakshEpam the

traditional way(Sri Bhashyam, VEdarthA Sangraham,

Srimad Rahasya Traya SAram and Bhagvad Vishayam).

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmanuja DAsan,

Sudarsana Dasosmi

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Sri:

SriRAmaJayam

SrimatE RAmAnujAya Nama:

 

Dear Sudarshana,

 

Your article is nice to read. But one thing

you should remember that people are at different

level of thinking. You have to come to the

reader's level. Lord Himself preached BG. Is

everyone an expert in BG? Likewise "vEdAs are

ApouruSEya" is said by many before. You can't

stop the people questioning that statement.

They want to know the truth behind it and it's

not that easy to convince the reader that vEdAs

are authorless. The reader doesn't have formal

training in vEdAs. Without giving examples nobody

will accept things.

 

BhagawAn Himself proved that HE will do anything

for His devotees(in RAmAvatAr and KriSNAvatAr).

We worship HIm(as much as possible)b'coz HE has

promised that HE will protect us.

 

If Bhagavad RAmAnujA had not questioned YAdavaprakAsA,

there would not have been "SriVisistAdvaitam".

Likewise you will see many who question certain

things. That is the nature of mind.

 

Every reader puts forth his/her questions (based

on their experiences in life) to Sri Jeeyar Swami

and HH out of his saulabhyam and extreme compassion

towards us, answers all paragraph by paragraph,

to our understanding, inspite of extremely busy

schedule.

 

Yes as you said we have to treat AchAryAs as God

because they are the ones who give us the knowledge

of the God and also show the way to reach God.

But noneof the pUrvAchAryAs claimed that they

themselves are SrimanNArAyaNA!

 

 

AzhwAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam

gita

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Priya Sriman dhruba !

Jai Srimannarayana !

 

Vedas are at first REVEALED, by Lord only.

Chathurmukha Bramha is His first disciple.

>From chathurmukha Bramha to others and so on.

He can teach them to others too !! However,

it is Lord who teaches them first. He reveals

doesn't mean he authored right ? It is not

that God is also the Primary Teacher of Vedas

but, He is the First Teacher who reveals Vedas.

He teaches the Vast Vedic Mass to Bramha.

Later on it comes to his disciples and so on.

Even great Rishis, as a result of meditation

for thousands of years, when they experienced

the Truths of Universe, it is by the grace of

Lord they revealed a little of the rich,

explicit, boundless, Divine experience, that

came out in the form of Divine sounds, the

Manthras.

 

 

Jai Srimannarayana !

=chinnajeeyar=

 

> dchakrav wrote: Jai Ramji Ki!

> Respected Swamiji and Devotees:

> I wanted you to comment on what I have

> learnt about this issue.

 

> As I understand, the Vedas have not

> been authored by God in the form that

> we find the Vedas (except perhaps small

> sections of it, for example the Devisuuktam).

> But since the Vedas contain almost

> exclusively revealed knowledge, it has to

> come from God. Vedic rishis have written

> that in their communion, they obtained

> revelations from God and wrote those down in

> verses as best they could. God may not

> have written the verses, but He is certainly

> the source of these Scriptures. In the Gita,

> Arjuna calls Sri Krishna 'shashvatadharma goptaa'.

 

> Despite the eternal nature of the Vedas,

> they get lost after great lengths of time.

> This is what Sri Krishna told Arjuna in the

> Gita. The Mahabharata describes how

> the Vedic knowledge is reintroduced in the

> begining of each Kalpa by God and passed down

> through desciplic succession for a long time.

> Afte a long time, it is lost from the world

> and goes back to God. God teaches it

> again at the begining of the next kalpa.

> Therefore, God is also the primary teacher of

> the Vedas.

 

Regards,

Dhruba.