Bhagavad Geetha & Azhvaars

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The reference which you have given doesn't convince

me. In all these pasurams our alzwars have just said

Lord Krishna was there in the battle field along

with arjuna or pandavas.

 

I have found out a reference in thiruvaimozhi which

gives a direct reference of Lord krisha telling BG ...

it is

"Arivinaal Kuraivilla agalnyalath avar ariya neri

yellam eduthu uraiytha nirai nynathorumoorthi....."

 

This pasuram comes in seven hundred in thiruvaimozhi

(ezhaam pathu)...

 

It would be fine if u can give some references which

convince like the one above....

 

Thanx,

Kaattumannarkoil Kumandur Ilayavilli SRIRAMAN

 

> Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:49:45 -0700 (PDT)

> "Sudarsan Parthasarathy.S." <sudarsanp

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Sri RAmajayam

sRimathE rAmAnujAya namaha

 

Dear Sri.Sriraman,

Thanks for the nice reference on

GeethAchAryan in the Divya Prabandham. As AdiyEn

mentioned, there should be more direct references if

we go through other verses of the Divya Prabandham,

and more significantly in the light of PoorvachArya's

works like Bhagavad Vishayam(which AdiyEn am

deficient).

 

More pointers on this topic list

by Sri.Madhavakkannan Swami and Sri.M.G.VAsudEvan,

reproduced below,

 

Madhavakkan Swami wrote:

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In Naachiyaar Thirumozhi, AndAL mentions: meymmai peru

vaartthai vishNu

chitthar kEttiruppAr..

 

Sri Madhavakkannan Swami wrote:

meymmai peru vaartthai- Charama slOkam- Sarva

dharmaan..

vishNu chitthar- PeriyAzhwAr- the incarnate of Garuda-

who was present as

flag (GaruLa kodiyaan) on top of teh chariot of

Arjunan driven by KaNNan.

kettiruppAr- he would have heard.

 

AndAL says: Garuda (from the flag) would have heard

the charma slOka..

 

There is no need to hear other slokas of GitA; what

one needs to hear and tell others; AzhwAr had heard

and conveyed to others through his daughter.

 

Sri.M.G.VAsudEvan wrote:

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marumagan than santhathiyai uyir meettu

maiththunanmaar

urumagaththE veezhaamE guru mugamaaik kaaththaan oor

 

thiru mugamaaich chengamalam thiru niRamaaik

karunguvaLai

poru mugamaai ninRalarum punal arangam enbadhuvE

 

4 - 8 - 3 periyaazhvaar [maadhavaththOn padhigam]

 

See here guru mugamaai - as a teacher who taught -

is a direct reference to teaching of geetha

 

2 incidents referred here are very clear relating to

maha bhaaratham

 

1. Marumagan than santhathiyai - the ward of abhimanyu

- in the womb of uththarai - later king parikshith -

saved by none else than krishNa when uththarai

delivered the charred body - due to the

paaNdava asthiram sent by

aswaththaama - krishna gave life to that charred

portion - that "nithya

brahmachaari touch" gave life - uyir meettu.

 

2. Maiththunanmaar - the 5 paaNdavaas were saved from

going down as great sacrifice in the war with those

kouravaas, when arjuna - the mainstay of paandavaas

refused to fight - he, the great lord of lords krishNa,

became a teacher in that war arena - to teach that

greatest of great epic srimadh

bhagavath geethaa - gurumugamaaik kaaththaan.

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

Sudarsana Dasosmi

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> Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:06:55 +0530

> sriraman.sreenivasan

> Bhagavad Geetha & Azhvaars

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srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha

 

Dandams to HH Sri Sri Sri Ramanuja Chinna Jeer Swami

 

Dear Friends,

 

Regarding BhagavadGita and the Azhvar verses, there can not be any

doubt that there is close connection. Frequently when one's reading

the latter, one recalls relevant passages from the Gita which have

the same thought. Thus it is evident that the Azhvars have made the

same teaching very accessible.

 

Some examples:

 

Poykai AzvAr

Ist tiruvantAti 7 cf BhG 7.20, 22, 25

Ist tiruvantAti 44 cf BhG 7.21, 4.11

Ist tiruvntAti 47, 50 cf BhG 6.10, 12-15, 30

 

Tirumazicai AzvAr

nAnmukan tiruvantAti 81 cf BhG 14.3

 

Direct references to the Gita are somewhat fewer. But one reference

that may help is:

 

cEyan aNiyan ciRyan mikap periyan

Ayan tuvaraik kOnAy ninRa - mAyan anRu

Otiya vAkkatanaik kallAr ulakattil

EtilarAm meyjnAnam il.

(nAnmukan tiruvantAti 71)

 

They that have not learned

the sacred utterance

He made then as

Lord of Dwaraka,

Cowherd boy, our God

He that is

Far, near, small, very big

Are but enemies of Bhagavan in this world

and devoid of true knowledge.

 

The traditional commentaries, i.e., that of Sri PeriyavAccAn PiLLai

Swamy and the gloss thereof by Sri AppiLLai Swamy, explain 'anRu'

('then') as bhArata yuddham and 'Otiya vAkku' ('sacred utterance') as

caramazlokam i.e., sarvadharmAn parityajya mAmekam zaraNam vraja etc

(BhG 18.66).

 

Hope this helps,

Lakshmi Srinivas