Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Jai Sriman Narayana! Asmath Gurubyo Namaha! Recently, there was an article by Srirama Ramanuja Acharya commenting that all gods are equal. This is like saying that the mother is equal to a respectable elder sister. The fact is that the sister emnated from the mother, and mother is supreme when compared to the elder sister. Please kindly see my response. > Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:23:47 +1000 > "Srirama Ramanuja Acharya <purohit > Supremacy of Narayana and Vaikuntha > > It is a fact that the glories of Lord Siva too > can be supported from any number of shastras > including Itihasas. The Saiva acharyas can > produce endless pramanas to support the supremacy > of lord Siva and the subordination of Lord Vishnu. > This Saiva-Vishnu supremacy debate is in fact > pointless when we take these Divine Personalities > as Disney-land characters. It has been confirmed in Vedas that Lord Sriman Narayana is the original and supreme personality. For instance, the supremacy of Vishnu over all other devathas has been described in Ithireya Brahmana (1,1,1) of Rigveda which declares: "AthAgnow nithya hOmanthe Vishno nithayArcha sarvadEvarchabhavathi (95)" Vishnu should be worshiped everyday in homam and this is equivalent to worshiping all gods, "Agnirdevanamavamo Vishnu paramsthadantharena sarva anya devatha, Ithi brahmanam( 96)" Agni is the lowest and Vishnu is the greatest of all gods, and all other gods are in between. Sriman Narayana is the original personality of godhead from who everything emerged. For instance, The Mahopanishath declares: "Thadahu- Ekohaavai Narayana Aaseeth. Na Brahmaneshano..... Na nakshathrani, na suryo, na chandrama. Sa Ekaki na rametha. Thasyadhyananthasthya yagna sthoma muchyathe..... In the beginning Narayana was alone (Ekovaahai). There was no Brahma (nabrhama) there was no Shiva (na Eeshano). He was alone (Sa Ekakee)". "Nasya pradhana samvathsara jayanthe. Samvathsaradadijayanthe.... " (Brahma, Prajapathi, etc. were born out of him). "Adha punareva Narayanasoanyathkamo manasa adhyatha. Thasya dhyananthasya lalatath thryaksha shulapaani purusho bhibrthsriyam, ........." Narayana again meditated. From the face (lalata) of the meditating Narayana was born Rudra with three eyes and thejas. He had renunciation and other qualities. Therefore he is regarded as Mahadeva instead of simply a deva". Since Sriman Narayana (Krishna) is the original personality from whom everything emnated, He has to be distinguished from anya devathas. However, when translating into english language, since there is no equivalent word for Bhagavan, Sri Prabhupada and other Viashnavas translated Bhagavan as God and the anya devathas as demi-gods without intending disrespect for the anya devathas. I do not see any disrespect for the anya devathas when thery are refreed to as demigods. > Secondly Krishna has resolved this debate by > declaring in the Gita that he himself is Lord Siva > and Lord Murugan. I do not see a direct slokam referring to your statement. However, He is in every devatha. > This is not a PERSON but an ontological fact. What is proof that Sriman Narayana is not a person? The purusha sooktham declares that He is a person, and that person has Laxmi Devi and Hri Devi as His consorts. (Hreeshyathe Laximsyapathnow) > all discussion on the nature > Vaikuntha is like speculating on the market price >of the crop before the soil has been prepared for >sowing! Srimth Bagavath Ramanuja has described Sri Vaikunta in His Vaikunta Gadyam. Do you refute that and what is the basis of your rejection of Srimad Bagavad Ramanuja's description of Sri Vaikuntam? Jai Sriman Narayan! In the service of Lord Sri Venkateswara, I remain, Sincerely Narender P. Reddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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