Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Dear Greg, Early this year you have asked 13 interesting questions about some crucial points of science, during the summer we have discussed the matter with HH Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji and below you will find the answer. We hope it is not too late for your project. Jai Srimannarayana | Daniela ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` There are 3 realities in the world : 1st reality : nature , a component of 5 elements mixed up in different proportions at different levels, forms the body. The body consists of the skin, flesh, brain different cells and all this are components of the matter formed as a body from the nature only. So including the brain, its cells and it's nervous system every thing is included in the matter only. It has no consciousness on it's on. It is totally an insentient object. Neither of this components or elements has any consciousness on it's own, but when they form as a body it is the : 2nd reality: which is called as soul having consciousness as its essential feature suppling the knowledge, suppling the consciousness that makes the all system to function including the central nervous system (cns) receiving the signals and sending the signals. All this are done only when that consciousness permits the system to function otherwise the system can not receive nor produce any signals. That soul migrates from body to body which are called as death and birth. So long as that soul dwells in the body thus long all the functioning's will take place and it is not the science that decides the functioning of the soul. Science says, as you mentioned, the system is " the light touching the object and gets reflected to the eye, which receives and sends the signals to the brain that perceives the object " but the philosophy doesn't agree with it, they say the soul from the body functions or, the soul having consciousness as its nature releases the consciousness and a system is build up for that. The first cover, the soul has, is the intellect. The second cover is the mind and the third one is the physical body, which has the sensory organs etc. as its components. So the consciousness flows trough them when it goes trough the eye, depending upon the ability of the eye, that means the physical channel, the receptivity of the light or the objects is done by the soul only. Though the eyes are there, the rays can not penetrate into that unless the soul permits but even if the soul accepts to receive the signals, when the external channel, the body, is weak it can not perceive more then what the channel permits so this are two inter-related things. When the soul sends its consciousness trough the channel that is provided, it receives the object and then it says, " I see the object". So even during the state of dreams, having records preserved at different levels right from the body in the organism and also the mind and the instincts at the intellectual level, make's the soul to perceive different things even in the state which we call dream. So it has nothing to do with the eye if the soul wants to visualise certain objects because the inner mechanism of the eye is under control of the soul. Memory is what we call the instincts at the intellectual level. The instinct at the level of mind we call as memory. When it is at intellectual level then we call them as instincts engraved in the knowledge it self. All this can form different pictures during the state of dream and soul can perceive all of them but when the physical body is tired to much by exertion or any thing like that for any unbalances also then it doesn't function and we call it as "state of dream" but when the mind also got exerted then the first level of the consciousness also will not start functioning and we call that state as "deep sleep". So deep sleep is a state when soul can experience it's own nature that is joy, just what people call as joy. That is the reason, after waking up from sleep one says that "I'm happy during my sleep, I have no pain during my sleep". When the consciousness again starts flowing out it means the body again got relaxed so then the knowledge flows trough the body again and different organism start functioning. Then again the soul receives the different messages send by the body either pain, joy, different touches like hard , soft, cold and heat all this things are perceived. Then the mind also get's awaken so different variety's of influences also take place to judge good, bad, something which has to be done, not to be done. all this things will take place. That is at the memory level, we remember something and we think to do something and we decide something not to do also, all this is at the intellectual level we do, that is the state of mind. When intellectual permits then mind functions, mind permits then senses functions, senses permit the body functions that is how the system works. Whatever the body feels by touching an object, hard substance or soft substance, you say," it is only an image that brain receives and it newer be a reality". It is not true that he receives only the images of the external object it directly perceives any thing because the consciousness directly perceives the object trough different senses at different levels so what ever it perceives either trough eye or trough skin or trough the ear or nose it is the reality that perceives and it feels the reality of the object also. So it is not just an imaginary thing or it is not just the virtual thing that it receives and experiences. You say " It is only the copy of the own body" that is not true, it receives the original thing because the consciousness is so true as the soul is. The second mechanism that works in the body and the soul are different in each and every body. They own the body and they function trough the body so the soul is the responsible one to experience the fruit of the actions trough the body or it is the one that experiences all the up's and down's of the body of that particular body and again that soul is also an independent one though it is a sentient object still it can not function on it's own. And there is one another: 3d reality that makes the soul also to function trough the body which the Veda's call as Supreme Soul, or Universal Soul, which is called in other words now a day by the modern world as God and the Veda's call it as Paramatma, that is also a self conscious being and also having the consciousness to know about all the object of this entire universe. Beyond the universe also the inner force is God that works trough the soul and consciousness of the soul being activated trough the Supreme Soul or Universal Soul starting to experience it's own records, it's own instincts trough the body it is provided with. And those bodies varies from person to person from species to species like some move vertically some horizontally and some fly in the sky and some move in the water all this object are being controlled by the universal soul controlling the individual cells of each and every object and that individual soul exists even in a subtle form like atoms also. So if you really understand this concept then we think most of your questions will be solved and we feel that you think it over and get back to us. What we need to say here is neither the body nor the consciousness nor the experiences are illusionary all this are so true as your hunger and thirst are. Books to refer to : BRAHMA SUTRA : Sri Bhasyam Traduction by George Pivaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.