Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 namO nArAyaNAya || >>>> i was trying to talk to a friend, about being a vegetarian, /namastE Shri Vivek. I will give a partial answer to your question. Your friend has raised the question of the food chain, where one lives on another. So that, if we all do not eat meat, then there will be an overpopulation of animals. The food chain is part of a cycle. Our /sAstrAs do raise the issue of cycle in /taittiriya upa/nishat. Under this cycle, for example, /yaJnaS beget rain, rain begets /annam (food) and /annam begets life and God /brahmaH. The /gItA also uses the same set of elements to build a cycle. I think I have omitted /pRANaH (air), but I am not sure where it goes in the cycle. In the /taittiriya upa/nishat it comes before /annam. Now /annam, to my knowledge cannot be stretched to include non-vegetarain food. It does include grains and fruits. So spaking of the cycles, the scriptures do speak of /annam and our need to perform /yaJnAs (sacrificial fires with /hOmam). Secondly, the /tiruk kuRaL is part of our scriptures. The difference is that it is written in purely ethical and moral persepctives. But it does dedicate about 40 /kuRaLs to God and Worship followed by the need to cultivate rain through /pUcanai. /pUcanai is /yaJnAs and also /arcanAs etc. /kuRal is unequivocal in condemning meat-eating. That is right, it condmens it in no ambiguous terms. It also eulogizes both the life of /gruhast/ASramam (/illaRam)and /sanyAcam (tuRavaRam) with the scales slighly tipping in favor of the former. Comenting about overabundance I can say the following. I read several years ago that it takes seven acres of grass land to fatten a cattle for the purpose of beef-eating. An ordinary cattle will feed about 40 people for a year. The same seven acres can feed more than 100 people for a year, if the persons are vegetarians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Jai Srimannarayna! As regards, the dilema of Veg or Non-veg, I am sending a english transalation of question posed by a reader to Sri Tridandi Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji and his immitable reply. 22Q. Some people are of the opinion that other living beings are meant for mankind and there is nothing wrong in eating non-vegetarian. Is it so? Ans: Because we have got mouth and power to kill we wrongly presume that other living beings are for our eating only. On the same analogy somebody may also eat us. Nobody lives for another. Each living being wants to fulfill its’ life mission in this world. Depending on the acts of it performs its life may be fruitful or futile. This is decided by the learned wise men. The animals that torture other animals are called wild animals and are equivalent to rakhasas. People rendering help to others are good people. One may say that even tress and plants are also living things and eating them also can be called “Himsa”. But, there should be support mechanism for life. The non moving living beings are food for roaming living beings. The plants derive their life from non-living things like soil water and air etc., . The trees do not eat other trees. The sadhu animals live on eating grass and leaves. The animals become carcasses after death. The right place for it is the burial ground and not your stomach. If one eats non-veg he becomes a moving burial ground. With Sastnga danda pranamas to Swamiji, Ramakrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Dear Sri Kannan, While it is possible to discuss the issue of vegetarianism from a purely ethical and humanitarian standpoint, to do so, even with slight cursory references to interpretations of Vedic thought, really provides very weak arguements. What is necessary to understanding vegetarianism is to discuss its relevance to our spiritual welfare, as is taught to us by our Acharyans. The first thing that is necessary to develop this understanding is to give up the notion that hailing from a SriVaishnava family automatically qualifies one to call him/herself a SriVaishnava and provides one with the qualifications to quote randomly from scripture simply to apologetically defend one's way of life. This is because SriVaishnavam is not a caste, a dogma, or a blind set of rituals that can be defended or denied to suit our convenience. Rather, it is a psychological, emotional and spiritual awakening that puts us in touch with who we are, who God is, our true purposed this world, and eventually leads us to True Peace and Happiness. Such an awakening is a very rare and precious gift, one that can only be the result of God's Spontaneous and Unconditional Grace. Ours is but to know the value of this gift and to fully accept it into our hearts and lives. But, interestingly, even the ability have this knowledge comes from His Grace Alone, as well, which comes to us in the form of our AchAryas to take guide us on the correct path. So, when and how we are introduced to our Teacher and when and how we learn to surrender to Sriman Narayana is really up to Him Alone. But, since He is Everywhere and since His Love is Unconditional, it stands to reason that His Love and Grace are there for us always and at any time. The only thing the only thing standing in our way from connecting with Him is our over-inflated ego that seeks to serve its own selfish desires. While it is virtually impossible to vanquish our ego, it is possible to re-direct it towards more healhier outlooks, in which we seek to serve the greater good of society rather than just ourselves, and in which we seek to meditate on God's wondrous qualities and fall in love with Him. This mental conditioning is not as hard as it seems, but it does require that one maintain certain simple disciplines that are conducive to the cultivation of good qualities, known in Sanskrit as Sattwa guna, and reduce the negative qualities that lead us to lust, anger, jealousy and hatred. Chapter 18 of Sri Bhagavad Gita goes into some detail on how what we take in through our senses, including what we eat, can have an impact on the cultivation of these positive and negative qualities. Our Acharyas teach us that among the list of foods that can take us on the downward spiral towards selfish pursuits are non-vegetarian foods, eggs, alcohol, onions, garlic, and many others. So, from this standpoint, the practice of vegetarianism becomes more than just a issue of compassion or an ethical responsibility, it becomes a key moral imperative for those individuals striving towards bettering oneself and this world by serving Sriman Narayana and His Devotees. I hope this helps. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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