Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 This ignorant respondent would like to offer his comments on these questions Please forgive if some points are incorrect. ----------------- In our dharmas and as told by our forefathers, we perform certain rituals after the death of a person,( may be his father/mother). It is generally believed that soul leaves the body after his death. His next life will be the outcome his karmas etc. Or he/she may attain salvation. ----------------- How does that concern you? Your job is to give thanks. Period. Do not question the laws of Dharma. Certain things, especially in matters of Dharma and Vedic strictures no amount of rationalising will help. Forgive if my words are harsh. > By then, the departed soul may be in another being. You are right. But remember that that new born human was earlier at some point your source i.e. the reason for your coming into being. Extending this logic it is clear that the same soul must have been the source for many others before and will also be the source for many in future. Therefore, the form changes, but the substance i.e. immoratility of the soul to broadly generalise remains. This reinforces the Vedic trusim The other aspect is that the moment you are born Dharma enjoins you on the duties. On the one hand you inherit the karmas (good or bad) from past and on the other hand you are supposed to use your faculties, will, capacities, thinking power, intellect, knowledge, trigunas, strength,power, attitude, habits etc. and go on discharging your job to the best possible extent without any wish for reward or fear of punishment - with absolute indifference or para vairagya. Note that by performing these deeds apart from working out your own Karma and salvation you are also helping the departed soul by reducing its own burden. As each and even the smallest deed, thought, feeling, act unleashes its own chain of karma, the burden each soul carries is huge. Bit by bit the burden has to be unloaded over numerous births and rebirths. Your deed in performing the Pitru works will act as a catalyst to that soul. Which being a good deed will automatically accrue as a credit to your own burden and thereby indirectly lighten the burden to your progeny/future generations. By performing tarpana and other pitru works you are conforming to the dictates of Dharma, which cannot be questioned or rationalised. At the same time if you look at it purely from an 'appropriatness' point of view, what do you do when someone wishes you a good morning or say happy birthday ? you thank him. Almost every religion has thanksgiving in some for or the other. In Christianity it is called "thanksgiving" and is dedicated to the Lord and in our culture we have the "pariseshanam" which is a thanksgiving for the various vayus comprising the universe and matter. In the same manner would you not be thankful that you have been born without flaw, without problems, are able to read/write, enjoy the fruits of this earth, speak, have a job etc.etc.? All this is not possible without THAT soul (Pitru) existing in the first place. So you give a Maha thanks to all and everything. It is a repeatation but an necessary one at that. The mega thanks overshadows all other thanksgiving because you are doing it after the person is no more. The most common and immediate result of any separation -physical, mental or otherwise in any manner - is both parties tend to have less and less of interaction until everything is forgotten and ignored totally. You are in a job for 35 years, after retirement you move to your native village and settle down. Do you know the state of affairs of your best friend in office. You may have been best buddies for 35 years. Both may have had eaten from the same plate, married the same day, may have enjoyed and suffered and supported each other when you were colleagues. Both may have travelled by the same train for 35 years, may know about each others habits, charecters etc intimately. May be very close family friends, but what happens after you retire to this remote village. The local,domestic, immediate routines, your own health, new problems, new issues etc. take over and you are caught in this circle. By and by contact is totally lost. No one has the time and energy. Ultimately say at 90, do you remember your buddy? No, you just are indifferent. You recollect in moments. You are not really concerned/bothered. Other pressing matters have taken over your mind. However, if the same buddy also happens to be your neighbour till the end then the relationship continues, deepens over the years. The principle here is "out of sight is out of mind". It is not a vague idle proverb. By the same logic who has the time to remember my great great grandfather's grandfather?. He may have been a big king, a saint. I have no clue, nor inclination, nor time and energy. But this does not remove the fact that they all have been instrumental in my birth. I am therefore thanking all such bygone generations across. Each might have or might continue to be a soul somewhere. Each with its own lot of burdens. Whether it is helped or not is not known. Who knows who is bothered? In these situations, your single act of offering tarpana becomes the highest form of devoution. Sandhyavandanam and Pitru works are to be done Nityam. Always. No excuse, no exception. Only when prana stops, note not death. Only when prana stops may this come to an end. Even if you are thoroughly bed ridden or in coma if someone else does Sandhyavandanam on your behalf it is a must. I am not sure about this for Pitru works, but will check and let you know. >If so, how the Pinda Pradanams and Tarpanas reach the soul you intended to pay respects? The Greatest Mahapurusha, H H Shri Chadrashekara Saraswati Sankarcharya of Kanchipuram has given a simple response to your query in his "Daivatin Kural". I give the gist: A son wants his father to send his college fees. The father sends it by money order. The money does not fly, or is not put in a cover and posted. Rather the money is lodged in the local post office and they in turn inform by cable, or telegram or some communication means to the addressee post office who encode the message and from their till pay the son at his hostel. In the end, the son gets the fees, though the father has not directly sent. The writer's own points: Pinda pradanam and offerings in tarpana are consumed by numerous creatures, most of which cannot be even seen by the naked eye. Keep the pinda for long and you will find yiest/bacteria etc.forming. Ants, small insects etc. may partake small pieces. Not only crows but many creatures take part. The crow is big and easily visible. One of these creatures may be the pitru. By eating it feels satisfied that someone in this whole big world is caring for it and there is forgive an forget happening all the time. Blessings take place. 0.0001% of the soul's burden is eliminated. It does not desire anything more except perhaps ultimate liberation. By its blessings you flourish, get good means and materials and you keep on giving thanks in a sincere way. You flourish, the soul's burden gets reduced. >> By performing the pujas at some sacred places, can the regular annual "abdikams" be discontinued? No Sir, Please please. Sandhyavandanam and Pitru works are to be done Nityam. Always. No excuse,No discontinuation no exception. Only when prana stops, note not death,but prana Only when prana stops may this come to an end. Even if you are thoroughly bed ridden or in coma if someone else does Sandhyavandanam on your behalf it is a must. I am not sure about this for Pitru works,but will check and let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Namo Narayana, I read the post on Pitru tarpanam. I very much agree that one should not avoid this and it is a must. However, I have one query. The sons perform tarpanam. What about father/mother of daughters? As far as our shastras are concerned for a Mumukshu there is no worry and we fully believe in HIM . However, is there a different treatment to parents of daughters(no sons)? There is a provision of 'Atma Pindam' some sort of pindam that can be offered for self in Gaya. What is the significance. Can someone elaborate and clarify? Ramanuja dasi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Jai Srimannarayana Regarding the query on 'Tarpanams' our Acharyas clarify that the benefits of Tarpanam reaches the targeted soul whereever it is appropriately, that is either by (i) elevating the soul to higher lokas (ii) fitting benefits in this loka itself if the soul is back (iii) back to the doer's (heirs) benefit if the soul already attained Moksham and does'nt require any more. It is like a money order which when sent, the postal department is responsible to see it reaches the target even if address is changed. But if the addressee is untraceable it comes back to the sender naturally. But above all it is the responsibility of any individual to offer 'tarpanam' as a gratitude to his parent to clear oneself of the 'runam' called 'pitru runam' Jai Srimannarayana Dr.Kilambi Ramakrishna Ramanuja Dasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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