An interview with Sri P.B. Annangaracharyar Swami(1979).

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Jai Srimannarayana!

 

An interview with Sri P.B. Annangaracharyar Swami (1979).

 

Interview conducted by Sri K.A. Manavalan and Sri T.A. Bhashyam.

Translated from Tamil by TCA Venkatesan.

 

 

Q. How did you get the name "prativAdi bhayankarar"?

 

A. This is not my name. It is the title given to our ancestor. His divine name

was Prativadi Bhayankaram Annan. He lived at viLakkoLi sannidhi in Kanchipuram.

He learned the general sastras from NayanArAchAryar, son of Vedanta Desikar.

Later, after hearing the greatness of Manavala Mamunigal, he went to Srirangam

and seeked Swami's divine feet. There, due to Mamunigal's grace, he learnt the

special sastras and became one of his ashta dikgajas.

 

 

Q. Why did he get the name "prativAdi bhayankarar"?

 

A. When he was the disciple of NayanArAchAryar, he defeated a advaitic pundit in

a philosophical debate. Upon which NayanArAchAryar celebrated him as "prativAdi

bhayankararE". From that day forward, he and his descendants came to be known by

that name.

 

 

Q. Were you born in Kanchipuram itself?

 

A. Yes. I was born in Kanchipuram in the household of my grandfather (mother's

father - Shashti Jeeyar Swami).

 

 

Q. Can you tell us about your studies in youth?

 

A. My father's name was Annangaracharyar. During a very young age, I learned

from him. I had upanayanam done when I was six years old. My father taught me

3000 divyaprabandhams before I was nine years old. Two years later, he performed

samashrayanam for me and then taught me the Thiruvaymozhi thousand. These were

taught to me in Kanchipuram as well as in our village of Chiththathoor

Thiruvadi Rayapuram. In addition, I learned many works from my father's uncle

Kidaambi Krishnamacharyar.

 

 

Q. Did you learn Sanskrit works also from your grand uncle?

 

A. I learned some works from him first. Later, I learned many Sanskrit works,

including Sri Bhashyam, from Sri U Ve Jagadguru Gaadi Ananthacharyar Swami. When

Swami went to North India, upon his order, I learnt from Ilangaadu Rangaswamy

Iyengar Swami and Pudhupper Venkatacharyar Swami. In addition, I learned

Bhagavad Vishaya Rahasyam, mUvAyira vyAkhyAnam, Tamil grammar, ancient Tamil

works, Ashta prabandhas and Kamba Ramayanam from Shashti Jeeyar Swami.

 

 

Q. From whom did you learn the Vedas? When did you get the interest to learn

them?

 

A. I learned some parts of the Vedas first from Narasimhacharyar. Later I

stopped learning the Vedas as they were in the way of my Sanskrit education.

After the age of nineteen, I started learning them again from Mamballam

Sudarshanacharyar Swami. About 25 people learned with me. I created a pAtashala

for us to learn Vedas and purchased a building for it. We started reciting the

Vedas we learnt, in the divine streets around the temple. This was started in

the year 1919 and stopped in 1964 when I had a heart attack.

 

 

Q. How many languages do you know? In how many languages have you written works?

 

A. I know Tamil, Telugu,, Hindi and Sanskrit. I have written works in all four

languages. I have also performed upanyasams in all four languages.

 

 

Q. Till now (1979), how many works have you authored?

 

A. In the four languages, I have written about 1207 books. This room in which I

am seated has many books - out of which only about 1/4th are not authored by me.

The rest were written and published by me.

 

 

Q. Can you group the books you have authored so far?

 

A. They can be separated into 16 groups. Most importantly, I have published

pUrvAchArya granthas. I published all of Ramanuja's granthas in a book called

Ramanuja Granthamala; all of Vedanta Desika's granthas in a book called Vedanta

Desika Granthamala; and all of Manavala Mamunigal's works in a book called

Varavaramunindra Granthamala. In addition, I have published books authored by

me, in 15 groups. Starting at the age of 19, I have authored extended meanings

for the 4000 divyaprabandhams.

 

 

Q. In addition, you have also been publishing a journal, right?

 

A0. Yes. I have been running journals in all four languages. I publish a journal

called "Vaidika Manohara" in Sanskrit and Hindi. In Telugu, I publish a journal

called "Ramanuja Patrika" and in Tamil "Sri Ramanujan".

 

 

Q. Are you the editor for all magazines or do you use representative for each of

the magazine?

 

A. I am the editor for all magazines. I have not kept any assistant so far.

These magazine have been running for 32 years.

 

 

Q. You said you know four languages. Do you also know English?

 

A. When I was learning at the Vanamamalai Patashala, my mother wished me to

learn English. However, my father did not agree to it. Later, when my father was

ill, a doctor came to see him. At that time, my father himself asked that I

learn English from the doctor. I learnt English from him for about 1.5 years. I

also learnt English for some time from a person called Venkataryan. Even now,

while I cannot speak well in English, I can still read and write. My hand-

writing is beautiful in all languages. Those who see my handwriting ask me if I

am a B.A. I tell that I am a P.B.A (laughs).

 

 

Q. What's the reason for your greater affinity for dEva perumAL's ghoshti than

for dEva perumAL Himself?

 

A. My father had ordered me that I should never give up ghoshti. It is due to

his grace. I have never missed iyal ghoshti once nor have I offered obeisance to

it once.

 

 

Q. What do you mean you have not offered obeisance to the iyal ghoshti once?

 

A. If one is present in the ghoshti when it starts, then one does not have to

offer obeisance to it. Only if one joins it in the middle does one have to do

that. I have never joined the ghoshti once in the middle. I will always be

ready before the ghoshti starts. All this is due to the grace of my father.

 

 

Q. What is the reason for Divyaprabandha ghoshti to come in the front and Veda

ghoshti to come behind, when perumAL goes about in the streets?

 

A. The Divyaprabandhams which are the Tamil Vedas tell us all about the Lord's

divine auspicious qualities. However, the Sanskri Vedas which started telling

about these qualities, failed in its attempt and backed off ("yatO vAchO

nivartante"). The same is stressed by Vedanta Desikar, Kambar and others. This

is the reason why aruLis seyals are in the front and vEda pArAyaNam is in the

back.

 

 

Q. Amongst all your works, which one do you consider is the best?

 

A. Amongst the works I have authored, I consider the work "Sri Bhashya Saram" in

Thamzih, as the best. Also, all my vyakhyanams in Sanskrit for the 4000

Divyaprabandhams are very good.

 

 

Q. Do you recall your first work?

 

A. I was about 15 years old at that time. A scholar speaking at the Hundred

Pillar mandapam in Kanchipuram stated that as the Divyaprabandhams were written

in Tamil they cannot be respected. I wrote a 30 page book in Sanskrit called

"Divyaprabandha Vaibhava Viveka:" rejecting his claim. That was my first book.

 

 

Q. Can you tell us when and where you gave your first discourse?

 

A. One time I had gone to Hyderabad (Sitarambag) for Udayavar Utsavam, along

with my acharya Sri U. Ve. Gaadi Ananthacharyar Swami. I was about 16 years at

that time. There some people requested Gaadi Swami to perform a discourse. Then,

he ordered me to do a discourse. That order is the source for all my upanyasams.

I performed my first discourse there on Udayavar Vaibhavam.

 

 

Q. Your voice is majestic till date. What is the reason behind that? Do you use

any medicines to protect your voice quality?

 

A. The Lord's grace is the reason for my voice being good. I do not use any

medicine for that. The Lord is the medicine.

 

 

Q. Even though you have helped the people of this world by performed many

discourses, there is a complaint that you have not created any disciples who can

follow in your foot steps....

 

A. I have written thousands of works. Even today, many scholars who perform

discourses write to me saying that their discourses are based upon my writings.

They all can be considered my disciples. Even though I have not created a few

disciples, I have written thousands of works that will last hundreds of years.

That is sufficient.

 

 

Q. Our sampradhayam is going down. In such a situation, who are you appointing

as your heir?

 

A. When so many scholars such as Sadabishekam Govinda Narasimhachariar,

Velukkudi Varadachariar, Pillai Lokam Bhashyakachariar, S. Krishnaswami Iyengar

(Sudarshanam Publisher), Nallan Ramakrishna Iyengar, K.A. Manavalan and

Sthalasayanaththuraivar are building the sampradhayam, it is wrong to say that

the sampradhayam is going down. Therefore, it is not necessary for me to appoint

someone as my heir.

 

 

Q. Can you say something about the Thenkalai and Vadakalai divisions within the

Srivaishnava Sampradhayam. What was Vedanta Desikar's role in this division?

 

A. During Vedanta Desikar's time, there was no division within the Srivaishnava

Sampradhayam. Why go that far? I will swear, wearing a Thulasi garland, that

prior to 1800, there was no Thenkalai Vadakalai division. Vedanta Desikar gained

great knowledge through upAsana. Therefore, he authored a great number of works.

In these works, first he will reject a notion of Pillai Lokacharyar. A few pages

later, he would state that "this is the thought of such and such". A little

later, he would agree with what he himself had rejected earlier. A certain

group which came after his time, started following his earlier opinions. This is

the cause for the Thenkalai Vadakalai division.

 

 

Q. When and where did you get the title "mahA mahipOdhyAya"?

 

A. In 1972, at Allahabad, seven people were selected as Saptha Rishis. At that

time, this title was given to me by vice president Sri Pathak.

 

 

Q. We learn that you have gone on several divyadesa yatras. Have you been to all

Sri Vaishnava divyadesams?

 

A. So far, I have done North Indian divya desa yatras alone 23 times. Out of the

108 Sri Vaishnava divyadesams, 106 are in this world. Out of them, excluding

Salagramam and Thiruppirithi, I have worshipped at 104 divya desams.

 

 

Q. Many people of our sampradhayam go to work early and return late. Being

involved in lowkika like this, they are unable to follow the Srivaishnava

sampradhayam. Can you briefly tell what they can do?

 

A. After waking up and performing sandhya-vandanam, they must recite all 30

verses of Thiruppavai. If there is insufficient time even for that, then they

must at least recite the "siRRam siRukAlE" pasuram. If they do this much, they

would have followed the Srivaishnava sampradhayam.

 

 

Q. What do you consider as your greatest gift?

 

A. I consider the fact that I was born in Manavala Mamunigals' sampradhayam as

my greatest gift. Just as Dasaratha prayed that Rama be born as his son for

seven (all) births ("ninnaiyE maganAgap perRap peRuvEn EzhpiRappum nedunthOL

vEndhE"), so too I pray every day that I gain Manavala Mamunigal as my acharya

for seven (all) births ("ninnaiyE guruvAgap peRap peRuvEn EzhpiRappum

yathIndhrap pravaNA").

 

 

Q. You have accomplished a great many things. Is there something that you feel

you have not done yet?

 

A. Whatever you consider that I have accomplished thus far, if they remain

without any problems, then that is sufficient.

 

 

Q. When you perform discourses, why do you ask questions toward the audience?

Particularly, when it appears that you are questioning some scholars, it is said

that they are bothered.

 

A. I do not ask questions to bother any one. I ask them questions so that the

audience realize their knowledge. Also, if people who have knowledge of the

Vedas and Divyaprabandhams come to me, I take them with me to my upanyasams. I

do this for the benefit of the audience only - not to test them.

 

 

Q. As the editor of magazines, what is your wish for the magazine Geethacharyan

(run by Sri M.A. Venkatakrishnan)?

 

A. Geethacharyan must grow greatly. It must increase its pages more. As it

grows, I would like to stop my magazine "Sri Ramanujan" and take this as my

magazine.