Guest guest Posted March 22, 1999 Report Share Posted March 22, 1999 At 06:47 22/03/99 -0000, you wrote: >There was mention of an academic debate regarding the date Kali Yuga began. Is there not reason to debate whether or not we are presently in Kali Yuga? > >According to Sri Yukeshwar's calculations as described in his book, The Holy Science, we are presently in the 299th year of the ascending Dwarpara Yuga. I believe his case for this calculation to be rational, sound and compelling. I realize this is probably not news because Yukteshwar wrote his words in 1894, but it warrants mention. > >As a servant and devotee of the Guru Principle, the Grace-Bestowing power of God, these words ring true for me. For anyone who has yet to read The Holy Science, I recommend it. > >------ >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/vediculture >Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > > In all humility let us judge a tree by it's obvious fruits. The Satya Yuga and Dwarpara Yugas are in themselves resplendent with auspiciousness. Shastra like the Srimad Bhagavatam resounds with their glories, and further declares how Lord Sri Krishna left this world just prior to the advent of the present Kali yuga. In the 12 Skandha / Canto of that book, which was written by the literary incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Srila Krishna Dwarpayana Vyas many of the attributes of the Kali Yuga are ethnologically described that we are today ethnographically experiencing. Please rely on the Pramana (Sruti) as a source of truth and not that of mathematical calculations, or intuitive speculations of various people however great. There are many atheists out in the world who would like to say that Krishna is / was not a real person, and that the sequence of events as He said they happened, did not. there are also persons out in the world who, while dressing even as followers of the Vedic Dharma preach against it. These all in themselves are not symptoms of Dwarpara yuga or Satya Yuga, but of the present Kali Yuga. While we speak of Guru Paramparas, according to the authorised shastra there are Four bona fide sampradayas; Sri (coming from Laxmi devi through Ramanujacarya), Brahma (coming from lord Brahma through Madhwacarya), Kumara (coming down from Sanak Adi through Nimbarkacarya), and Rudra (coming down through Vishnu Swami and Valabhacarya). Others may lay claim to be authorised but according to the revealed scriptures such as Padma Puran it is not so. sampradaya vihina ye mantras te nisphala matah atah kalan bhavisyanti catvarah sampradayinah sri-brahma-rudra-sanaka vaisnavah ksiti-pavanah catvaras te kalan bhavya hy utkale purusottamat "Unless one is initiated by a bona-fide spiritual master in the disciplic succession, the mantra one may have received is without effect. For this reason the four Vaisnava disciplic successions, inaugurated by Laxmi Devi (Sri Sampradaya - Ramanuja), Lord Brahma (the Brahma Sampradaya - Madhwa), Lord Siva (the Rudra Sampradaya - Visnu-Swamin), and the four Kumaras (from Sanaka Kumara - Nimbarka) who will come to Jagannatha Puri - Purusottam Ksetra, Utkal, and purify the entire earth during the age of Kali."(Padma Purana) And guess what, they have all appeared......! "When the second millenium ('Dwarpa Yuga') overlapped the third ('Treta Yuga'), the great sage Srila Vyasadeva was born to Parasara Muni in the womb of Satyati, the daughter of Vasu (the fisherman)."(Srimad Bhagavatam 1:4:14.). "In this yuga the son of Parasara, who is glorified as a part of Visnu and who is known as Dvaipayana, the vanquisher of all enemies, became Srila Vyasa. Urged by Brahma, he undertook the task of classifying the Vedas. Srila Vyasa accepted four disciples to preserve and continue the Vedas. They were Jaimini who took care of the Sama Veda, Sumantu - the Atharva Veda, Vaisampayana - the Yajur Veda and Paila - the Rg Veda, and for the Itihasa and Puranas - Lomaharsana."(Sri Vayu Purana 60:10-16.). According to Vayu Purana it says, "Previously there have been twenty-eight Vyasas, but when the twenty-eighth appears, Lord Visnu, the most Glorious, Great Father of the three worlds, becomes Dvaipayana Vyasa. Then Lord Sri Krsna, the best amongst the Yadus will be born of Vasudeva and will be known as Vasudeva. Then in due course I (Vayu) will come in the form of an ascetic and assuming the body of a religious student, will surprise the world by means of the Lord's 'yoga maya'." (Vayu Purana 23:206-208.) When Parikshit maharaj saw the ruler of the Kali yuga approaching (symptomised by the dark complexioned sudra adorned with low character) he knew the advent of the Kali yuga was upon us. The scenario is set out in the Srimad Bhagavatam Skandha / Canto one (Maha Bhagavat Purana). (The sanskrit here is to be read with the Balaram font) catväri tréëi dve caikaà kåtädiñu yathä-kramam saìkhyätäni sahasräëi dvi-guëäni çatäni ca SYNONYMS catväri—four; tréëi—three; dve—two; ca—also; ekam—one; kåta-ädiñu—in the Satya-yuga; yathä-kramam—and subsequently others; saìkhyätäni—numbering; sahasräëi—thousands; dvi-guëäni—twice; çatäni—hundreds; ca—also. TRANSLATION The duration of the Satya millennium equals 4,800 years of the years of the demigods; the duration of the Dväpara millennium equals 2,400 years; and that of the Kali millennium is 1,200 years of the demigods. A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada's PURPORT. "As aforementioned, one year of the demigods is equal to 360 years of the human beings. The duration of the Satya-yuga is therefore 4,800 x 360, or 1,728,000 years. The duration of the Tretä-yuga is 3,600 x 360, or 1,296,000 years. The duration of the Dväpara-yuga is 2,400 x 360, or 864,000 years. And the last, the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 x 360, or 432,000 years."(SB 3.11.20. purport.) In the Srimad Bhagavatam a cronological list of descendants has been listed, giving the duration of each dynasty through the subsequent ages. Sukadeva Gosvämi said: The last king mentioned in our previous enumeration of the future rulers of the Mägadha dynasty was Puranjaya, who will take birth as the descendant of Båhadratha. Puranjaya’s minister Sunaka will assassinate the king and install his own son, Pradyota, on the throne. The son of Pradyota will be Pälaka, his son will be Visäkhayüpa, and his son will be Räjaka.(SB. 12.1.2.) The son of Räjaka will be Nandivardhana, and thus in the Pradyotana dynasty there will be five kings, who will enjoy the earth for 138 years.(SB 12.1.3.) Nandivardhana will have a son named Sisunäga, and his son will be known as Käkavarëa. The son of Käkavarëa will be Kshemadharmä, and the son of Kshemadharmä will be Kshetrajïa.(SB 12.1.4) The son of Kshetrajïa will be Vidhisära, and his son will be Ajätashatru. Ajätashatru will have a son named Darbhaka, and his son will be Ajaya.(SB 12.1.5.) Ajaya will father a second Nandivardhana, whose son will be Mahänandi. O best of the Kurus, these ten kings of the Shisunäga dynasty will rule the earth for a total of 360 years during the age of Kali. My dear Parikshit, King Mahänandi will father a very powerful son in the womb of a shüdra woman. He will be known as Nanda and will be the master of millions of soldiers and fabulous wealth. He will wreak havoc among the kshatriyas, and from that time onward virtually all kings will be irreligious shüdras(SB 12.1.6-8.) That lord of Mahäpadma, King Nanda, will rule over the entire earth just like a second Parashuräma, and no one will challenge his authority.(SB 12.1.9.) He will have eight sons, headed by Sumälya, who will control the earth as powerful kings for one hundred years.(SB 12.1.10.) A certain brähmaëa [Cänakya] will betray the trust of King Nanda and his eight sons and will destroy their dynasty. In their absence the Mauryas will rule the world as the age of Kali continues.(SB 12.1.11.) This brähmana will enthrone Candragupta, whose son will be named Värisära. The son of Värisära will be Ashokavardhana.(Modern historians recognize both the Maurya dynasty and Candragupta, the king mentioned herein)(SB 12.1.12.) Ashokavardhana will be followed by Suyashä, whose son will be Saìgata. His son will be Shälishüka, Shälishüka’s son will be Somasharmä, and Somasharmä’s son will be Shatadhanvä. His son will be known as Brhadratha.(SB 12.1.13.) mauryä hy ete daça nåpäù sapta-triàçac-chatottaram samä bhokñyanti påthivéà kalau kuru-kulodvaha O best of the Kurus, these ten Maurya kings will rule the earth for 137 years of the Kali-yuga.(SB 12.1.14.) My dear King Parikshit, Agnimitra will follow as king, and then Sujyesthha. Sujyesthha will be followed by Vasumitra, Bhadraka, and the son of Bhadraka, Pulinda. Then the son of Pulinda, named Ghoña, will rule, followed by Vajramitra, Bhägavata and Devabhüti. In this way, O most eminent of the Kuru heroes, ten Shunga kings will rule over the earth for more than one hundred years. Then the earth will come under the subjugation of the kings of the Känva dynasty, who will manifest very few good qualities.(SB 12.1.15-17.) PURPORT According to Shrila Shrédhara Svämi, the Shunga dynasty began when General Pushpamitra killed his king, Båhadratha, and assumed power. After Pushpamitra came Agnimitra and the rest of the Shunga dynasty, which lasted for 112 years. Vasudeva, an intelligent minister coming from the Känva family, will kill the last of the Sunga kings, a lusty debauchee named Devabhüti, and assume rulership himself.(SB 12.1.18.) tasya putras tu bhümitras tasya näräyaëaù sutaù käëväyanä ime bhümià catväriàçac ca païca ca çatäni tréëi bhokñyanti varñäëäà ca kalau yuge SYNONYMS tasya—of him (Vasudeva); putraù—the son; tu—and; bhümitraù—Bhümitra; tasya—his; näräyaëaù—Näräyaëa; sutaù—the son; käëva-ayanäù—kings of the Käëva dynasty; ime—these; bhümim—the earth; catväriàçat—forty; ca—and; païca—five; ca—and; çatäni—hundreds; tréëi—three; bhokñyanti—they will rule; varñäëäm—years; ca—and; kalau yuge—in the Kali-yuga. TRANSLATION The son of Vasudeva will be Bhümitra, and his son will be Näräyana. These kings of the Känva dynasty will rule the earth for 345 more years of the Kali-yuga.(SB 12.1.19.) The brother of Balé, named Kåñëa, will become the next ruler of the earth. His son will be Çäntakarëa, and his son will be Paurëamäsa. The son of Paurëamäsa will be Lambodara, who will father Mahäräja Cibilaka. From Cibilaka will come Meghasväti, whose son will be Aöamäna. The son of Aöamäna will be Aniñöakarmä. His son will be Häleya, and his son will be Talaka. The son of Talaka will be Puréñabhéru, and following him Sunandana will become king. Sunandana will be followed by Cakora and the eight Bahus, among whom Çivasväti will be a great subduer of enemies. The son of Çivasväti will be Gomaté. His son will be Purémän, whose son will be Medaçirä. His son will be Çivaskanda, and his son will be Yajïaçré. The son of Yajïaçré will be Vijaya, who will have two sons, Candravijïa and Lomadhi. These thirty kings will enjoy sovereignty over the earth for a total of 456 years, O favorite son of the Kurus. SB 12.1.20-26) Then will follow seven kings of the Äbhéra race from the ciq of Avabhåti, and then ten Gardabhés. After them, sixteen kings of the Kaìkas will rule and will be known for their excessive greed.27. Eight Yavanas will then take power, followed by fourteen Turuñkas, ten Guruëòas and eleven kings of the Maula dynasty.28. These Äbhéras, Gardabhés and Kaìkas will enjoy the earth for 1,099 years, and the Maulas will rule for 300 years. When all of them have died off there will appear in the city of Kilakilä a dynasty of kings consisting of Bhütananda, Vaìgiri, Çiçunandi, Çiçunandi’s brother Yaçonandi, and Pravéraka. These kings of Kilakilä will hold sway for a total of 106 years.29-31. The Kilakiläs will be followed by their thirteen sons, the Bählikas, and after them King Puñpamitra, his son Durmitra, seven Andhras, seven Kauçalas and also kings of the Vidüra and Niñadha provinces will separately rule in different parts of the world. SB 12.1.32-33. There will then appear a king of the Mägadhas named Viçvasphürji, who will be like another Puraïjaya. He will turn all the civilized classes into low-class, uncivilized men in the same category as the Pulindas, Yadus and Madrakas.34. Foolish King Viçvasphürji will maintain all the citizens in ungodliness and will use his power to completely disrupt the kñatriya order. From his capital of Padmavaté he will rule that part of the earth extending from the source of the Gaìgä to Prayäga. SB 12.1.35. At that time the brähmaëas of such provinces as Çauräñöra, Avanté, Äbhéra, Çüra, Arbuda and Mälava will forget all their regulative principles, and the members of the royal order in these places will become no better than çüdras. SB 12.1.36. The land along the Sindhu River, as well as the districts of Candrabhägä, Kaunté and Käshméra, will be ruled by çüdras, fallen brähmaëas and meat-eaters. Having given up the path of Vedic civilization, they will have lost all spiritual strength.37. There will be many such uncivilized kings ruling at the same time, O King Parékshit, and they will all be uncharitable, possessed of fierce tempers, and great devotees of irreligion and falsity.38 These barbarians in the guise of kings will devour the citizenry, murdering innocent women, children, cows and brähmaëas and coveting the wives and property of other men. They will be erratic in their moods, have little strength of character and be very short-lived. Indeed, not purified by any Vedic rituals and lacking in the practice of regulative principles, they will be completely covered by the modes of passion and ignorance.SB 12.1.39-40 (do these not describe the people of the present age - certainly not those of the Dwarpara or Satya yugas) At the end of the Ninth Canto of Shrémad-Bhägavatam, it is stated that Ripunjaya, or Puranjaya, the first king mentioned in this chapter, ended his rule about one thousand years after the time of Lord Krishna. Since Lord Krishna appeared approximately five thousand years ago, Puranjaya must have appeared about four thousand years ago. That would mean that Vishvasphürji, the last king mentioned, would have appeared approximately in the twelfth century of the Christian era. Modern Western atheistic scholars have made the false accusation that Indian religious literature has no sense of chronological history. But the elaborate historical chronology described in this chapter certainly refutes that naive assessment. Incidently, the next chapter of this work is entitled "Symptoms of the Kali Yuga"!!! You can take the time to read the rest, and work it out for yourselves if you so desire. But here I state that we are already in the Kali Yuga, just over 5100 years following in the conclusions of the revealed scriptures. Besides these obvious statements, there are many more incidences mentioned in other related works, such as Bhavishya Purana where in the Kaliyuga khandha of the Pratisargaparva 19th chapter many great devotees of Lord Krishna who appeared in this age already that we recognise are listed giving their co-ordinants, something of their life's mission and instructive analysis of their natures. The validity of this is echoed by all the Acaryas; Ramanujacarya, Nimbarkacarya, Vishnu Swami, Madhwacarya, Baladev Vidyabhushana, Viraraghava Swami, Vadiraj Tirtha, Jaya Tirtha, Vyasa Tirtha (Vyasaraya), Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and even in the present day Thakura Bhaktivinoda (Kedarnath Datta), Jagannath das babaji maharaj, (Bhakti) Siddhanta Saraswati, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad. Yours in the service of the servants of Lord Sri Krishna, Pt JTCd ------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/vediculture Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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