Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 "A. Neilli" <theos A BRIEF HISTORY ON THE ORIGIN OF THE SOUL, AS AN IMMORTAL SUBSTANCE, IN THE WESTERN WORLD Once, I was walking with an old monk in the fields surrounding his monastery when he got stunned by what he saw; a stump of a tree, cut on both sides by a chainsaw, was giving new buds. "Oh, it is alive!" he exclaimed. I replied: "anima". "Yes", he approved, "life or air, it is the Latin word for the soul. In Greek, it is psyche.Why do you say therefore that animals have no soul?" He did not answer. A little latter, he said: "You see, it depends what you mean and from which language the word comes. Ultimately, it rest on you. And he laughed. Do you know that "animal" comes from "anima"? Animal and soul are the same word. Ha! ha! ha! What do you know about the soul? Does a pendulum needs a soul to function? Similarly, that tree was wound up by God just like a machine. That tree cannot think, it has no soul." He ended his sentence just when we arrived at destination; we were on our way to collect honey from beehives. It was better to stop arguing and keep silent. While working, I was reflecting on the word soul. Its ontology sounds like science-fiction. Since it has to do with what they call "mythology", the word got a bad connotation. Not at ease, people prefer to call him spirit, life air, vital force, etc. They cannot ignore its concept otherwise difficulties will arise when it is time to accept notions like immortality, another world, God or morality. The problem with the soul is that it is not just a thing you can grasp with the intelligence to be analyzed and labeled. His reality is most mysterious. To define the soul, -out of Indian context-, the intellect was the main tool. There are no original scriptures with detailed information. It is not like the Bhagavad-gita where a whole chapter is written about him. In Judaism, Moise is silent on this point. So much so that the Sadduceans rejected the idea of an eternity for the soul. Their opponents, the Pharisians, professed the resurrection of the dead bodies. Words like nefech, rouah, usually translated as "soul" or "spirit" are rarely employed in the Bible in reference to a disincarnate or "spiritual" part distinct from the body. Their sense of eternity was in regard of the body. It is later on only, under the influence of the Greeks, that they began to write about a spiritual soul which gives life to the body. The kabbala, which emerged after the first millennium, went up to talk about reincarnation. From where its teachings come from all together is obscure. Traces of Indian influence are often mentioned. Nowadays, the modern Jews don't believe anymore in the resurrection of the dead but privilege the idea of an eternal and separate soul. Egyptians, an advanced civilization, also believed in the soul; some say in reincarnation. If so, we don't find clear formulation on their conception of the soul, neither the source of their knowledge. For the various civilizations surrounding it, religion had always a great deal of syncretism. Scholars speculate that Egyptians may have got their idea from the Zoroastrians who were Persians and believed in the resurrection of the body. Just like Jews and Sumerians. In that part of the world, they thought the human being as one, avoiding the sharp distinction between soul and body. The Mazdeans, for whom Zoroastre or Zarathustra became later on the prophet, had a different understanding; the soul could fall in hell, but not for eternity; he reincarnates and reaches the heaven at one point. Zoroastre made quite some changes to this religion. For example, he eliminated all the gods who became asuras, demons, and kept only one, a supreme Male. We could say without creating to many waves, that the God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims, was Iranian from His origin. We should point out right away here, in short, the particularity of old Mazdeism: VEDIC CULTURE WAS ITS FOUNDATION. On the other side of the Mediterranean, the Greeks were debating seriously the question of the soul. Socrates died by drinking poison, convinced that his soul will not be affected. His disciple, Platoon, promulgated this idea to the whole world. For the first time in the western countries, some kind of serious philosophy about the soul and its immortality was being accepted widely. Platoon believed in and professed reincarnation and vegetarianism. His disciple, Aristotle, later on rejected most of his teaching. He did not accept the famous Forms or Idea (that everything has its original archetype, a spiritual form, on the transcendental plane); he rejected also the duality of the body and soul, what to speak of reincarnation. For him, the soul is intimately related to the body and cannot be absolutely differentiated. There cannot be any existence without the "living" body. The way he uses the words bewilders. "Anima" and "animal" come from the same word, do you remember? Evolution of the soul and evolution of the body are the same thing therefore. He is a naturalist and the first darwinist, we can say. The whole Christian tradition will be devided on who to choose: Aristotle or Platoon? (Of course, the idea of reincarnation and vegetarianism will be abandoned.) The question may be asked about the ancient Greeks, those much before Socrates, the Argonotes, or Ulysses and the like. Did they believe in the soul? Not in a divine one. For them, a human being dies and goes to the kingdom of death; there, he shall live as a shadow. Sumerians and Babylonians shared this belief. There was no paradise for the pious. A human could never become a god or live in their company. The sophisticated idea of the soul, reincarnation, vegetarianism, was promoted later on by a current of thought called Orphism. From there came Pythagore, one of the greatest philosopher who made his these ideas and brought a most important contribution for the evolution of the notion of the soul. He was well-known and became so much of a disturbance for the establishment that his opponents burnt his school and killed all his disciples. THE SOURCE OF HIS KNOWLEDGE WAS SAID TO BE INDIA. Germans, Scandinavians, Gallics, the whole Europe was more or less under the celtic influence. The role they played on Christianity was similar to the Zoroastrians on the Midle-East population. Celts believed in reincarnation. Their origin is linked to an area close to India and their religious culture is full of vedic elements; scholars call them Aryans. They may as well as been connected with the Mazdeans. When we objectively look for an original and sophisticated understanding of the soul, the road leads always to the Upanishad, Puranas and the Bhagavad-gita. There, abundant details are found. We should remark also that those Scriptures never make allusion to a foreign source of any kind. The Vedas manifested in India. The next important debate will occur in the fifteen century with Descartes. He argues that the soul and the body are two separate things. Again. The question of a separate and eternal entity is preoccupying. How the soul, who is radically different, can inhabit a material body and act on it? Descartes failed to explain the mechanism. Of course, there is no rational explanation, still this was not acceptable. Since Aristotle, demonstration has to be. No more myths please. Gods and legends were from an other age. Rational thoughts and science were superseding philosophy and metaphysics. Anyway, Descartes speculations did not diverge from his religious tradition; it was a mixture of platoonism and judeo-christianism. For him, only humans have souls; animals are only machines. But the singularity of his theory was that a human body also can function without the soul, just like a mechanic. The soul brings only the faculty to think. Pascal, a faithful catholic, attacked with virulence this theory. He reunites the soul and the body as one and the same thing. Mystics like Theresa of Avila, among others, could have shed some light. Unfortunately her descriptions are quite (personel). Also a doctor -a title given by the Church-, she doesn't tell us for example, why animals don't have a soul, what is the soul. She sticks to her traditional exoterism in this regard. An other famous saintly personality was Francis of Assisi. Some say he thought that animals have a soul, that he was vegetarian. If that was the case, he never expressed it significantly and no doctrine emerges from this perspective. To find out about onthological answers you must to go to the roots of the tradition. In the case of the soul, only God or revealed Scriptures can inform us. We did not mention muslims since they did not develop a different view on the subject than the Judaic tradition they come from. In the case of souffism (the mystical side of Islam) however, we are confronted with the same problem than the Kabbala; some indian influence is also recognized. Getting back to the monastery, the old monk said: "There was a worker who came to pass by the morgue and got the chance to watch a dissection of a cadaver. When the teacher explained to his students that he never found the soul, he protested: 'Excuse-me Sir, if you did not see it it's because it was not there anymore'. Isn't it a question of faith?" "Sure", I said, "but little intelligence can help. Isn't it?" "Yes", he agreed, "the doctrine of immortality of the soul had a simple and clear meaning with Pythagore. He is divine from the beginning, and therefore he will be also in the future. In the Hebraic perspective, things are more complicated. The soul is not divine, he'll become by the grace. The western concept -the soul and the body being the same-, thus formulated by Aristotle is very difficult to comprehend. Dualism in this regard is more easy. Nevertheless" he concluded, "since the soul is invisible, the discussion can go for ever". "That's what Krsna says in Bhagavad-gita" I thought: "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." AN ESSAY BY A. NEILLI AKHILESHVAR ------ This is an information resource and discussion group for people interested in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its historical, archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India, Hinduism, God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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