[world-vedic] U.S. HINDUS PLAN DIWALI STIR OVER BAPTIST SLANDER--(DEMONS & DEVOTEES)

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>Tuesday, November 02, 1999 3:33 AM

>Re: U.S. HINDUS PLAN DIWALI STIR OVER BAPTIST SLANDER--(DEMONS &

>DEVOTEES)

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>

> > Namaste:

> > The Southern Baptists appear to more like a social group than any

>bonafied

> > religion. Bonafied religion usually stems from the acharya or founder,in

> > this case Lord Jesus Christ. There is absolutely no way that trhe

>tenents

>of

> > Lord Jesus have anything to do with the spreading of hatred &

>intolerance

>as

> > found stronly in Southern baptyist literatures. They are from the

>south,but

> > they have nothing to do with John the Baptist or Lord Jesus except in

>name

> > only,& this as a direct insult in the face of Lord Jesus who acted only

>to

> > spread love for God. Southern Baptists spread love for beef &

>steak,which

>is

> > opposed to any honest Hindhu's religion. The Southern Baptists realize

>this

> > & side step issues by blaspheming the Lord & His devotees.

> > The flesh eater,(expecially the cow & bull which they excell in

> > slaughtering), known in sanskrit as the mellecha & or yavana is the

>lowest

> > of mankind,& eventually & gradually,(mark our words),are bringing this

>age

> > into the darkest regions of ignorance wherein canabalism becomes the

>norm.

> > The southern baptist "hate literature"has nothing to do with

> > religion,but everything to do with the spreading of hatred. They will

> > succeed in this world & shall be barred from the next. In other words

>they

> > actually are headed straight to hell after their breif beef eating

>lives.

> > They have no good qualities found in scripture but they do display the

> > opposite,such as,hatred,lust,anger,envy,& greed. There is no way that

>they

> > are to veiwed as religious under disguise of their name,Southern

>baptist.

>By

> > their behaviour they spit in the face of religion,all it s tenants &

>also

> > directly into the face of Lord Jesus Christ. They are simply rascals &

> > demons cent percent. Naturally,those among them,who disagree with their

> > hatred literature are beginning to see the light concerning their so

>called

> > freinds.

> > The Southern baptists spreading hatred literature are like the Nazis

> > spreading hatred literature towards the jews in preparation for their

> > extermination. Their animal dog loving culture is based on the slaughter

>of

> > cows & bulls,so the next step for them is to slaughter humans as their

> > prediscessor Hitler under a different name only. They are identical

> > philosophically & by demoniac nature & are not to be toyed with for they

> > shall not toy with real religion of any sort. They hate & ridicule real

> > religion of any sort,such as Buddhism,& Hindhism They are opposed to

>real

> > religion as if it were posion for them. They shall bring the world to

>its

> > darkest state possible. If ever there were an external enemy it is them

>&

> > their type of Nazism under disguise of religious terminology such as

> > Baptist. The spreading of hate is opposed 100% to the teachings of Jesus

> > Christ. Do not treat them as a religion but rather as religious

>criminals.

> > Our governments do not know how to distinguish between hate literature &

> > religious literature & this is a major part of the problem. A government

> > must know what is religious & what is anti religious in disguise of

> > religion.

> > Unfortunately government leaders are also lost in flesh eating for

>the

> > most part so their minds are bewildered by this gross sense

>gratification

> > which dulls the mind & gradually leads one to hellish life of

>misery,which

> > they are giving to the animals they pay to have slaughtered,cut,&

>wrapped

>in

> > saran wrap in the meat section .

> > Alas,the age of Kali is upon us,but the Lord Chaitanya has descended

> > only 500 years ago to save us by His Holy names.

> > The Southern baptists hate to hear of God,His activities,& they

> > especially hate His devotees. They will simply continue with their no

>brain

> > rethoric,which we have all heard. This they will propagate until they

>can

> > actually wipe out real religion from the face of the earth. They are

>like

>a

> > great amount of uncivilized orgs such as found in Tolkeins Trilogy.

> > Lord Krsna says in Bagavad Gita that there are demons & devotees. In

>this

> > material world these two factions are always at odds. Recently we saw

>the

> > movie,"Saviour",in which the marauding hordes of serbs slaughtered,stold

> > from, & raped where it looked good,the Jesus & Mother Mary loving people

> > from Kosovo. The movie showed the serbs in packs simply killing off

>unarmed

> > women,children & men. Sometimes they would use a mallet & smash them on

>the

> > head while they sang religious songs. These people from Kosovo were

>hated

>by

> > the serbs for their love of Jesus & mother Mary.

> > Satyahit das

> > Dr. Jai Maharaj <address.below.or wrote in message

> > news:Bharat-0924.991101.

> > > US Hindus plan Diwali stir over Baptist slander

> > >

> > > By Ashish Kumar Sen

> > > The Asian Age, via News Plus

> > >

> > > http://www.mantra.com/newsplus

> > > http://members.xoom.com/newsplus

> > >

> > > Monday, November 1, 1999, Nayee Dillee

> > >

> > > San Francisco - This Diwali the roar of crackers will be

> > > well matched by voices of protest across America. The

> > > Hindu community here has been simmering with rage ever

> > > since the Southern Baptists, the second largest group of

> > > Protestants in the US, released a prayer book last week

> > > asking Baptists to pray for the conversion of Hindus

> > > during the week of Diwali.

> > >

> > > Protests will be held all across the nation to denounce

> > > what Hindus are calling the ignorance of the Southern

> > > Baptists. "We pray to God that He may lead the Southern

> > > Baptists from the world of ignorance and hatred to the

> > > world of knowledge, truth and peace," said Mr Shyam

> > > Tiwari of the Greater Atlanta Hindu Organisations.

> > >

> > > Atlanta and Houston will be the venues of two prominent

> > > demonstrations over the coming week. The protest in

> > > Houston is expected to also include Buddhists, Muslims

> > > and Jews.

> > >

> > > Mr Amit Mishra, a Houston-based Hindu activist and

> > > attorney, said: "The protest will be in good taste." Mr

> > > Mishra conceded that there was no legal action that could

> > > be taken in such cases. "In America, everyone has freedom

> > > of speech. They are all entitled to their beliefs, but

> > > that doesn't mean that it is the truth," he said.

> > >

> > > Mr Mishra pointed out that the Southern Baptists were not

> > > some fringe element. "The fact that there are close to 50

> > > million followers is a matter of concern for other

> > > minority religions in the US which have been targeted by

> > > this group of Christians," he said.

> > >

> > > International Society for Krishna Consciousness

> > > international director, communications, Anuttama Dasa,

> > > while expressing deep concern at the insult from the

> > > Southern Baptists, felt a level-headed approach to the

> > > matter was needed. "It is very important for us as Hindus

> > > to remember this is just one denomination of Christians.

> > > The Hindus mustn't believe that this radical fringe among

> > > Christians speaks for the entire community, and neither

> > > must the Christians believe that radical Hindu groups are

> > > the voice of the Hindu community," Anuttama Dasa told The

> > > Asian Age in a telephone interview from Washington.

> > >

> > > Mr Vijay Pallod, an active member of the Hindu community

> > > in Houston and a VHP-America activist, felt "a majority

> > > of the second generation Indians feel the need to protest

> > > against this insult from the Southern Baptists. The older

> > > generation is very laid back."

> > >

> > > Mr Amit Mishra echoed Mr Pallod's views. "They (the first

> > > generation Indians) have a chalta hai mentality. I was

> > > born and raised here and am as American as the Baptists.

> > > I will not sit idle while my religion is slandered," he

> > > said.

> > >

> > > "The Southern Baptists have apologised to the Jews for

> > > derogatory comments made about their religion. They

> > > should also offer a similar apology to the Hindus," Mr

> > > Pallod felt.

> > >

> > > Mr Jyothish Parikh, president of Vishwa Hindu Parishad-

> > > America, told The Asian Age from his home in Connecticut

> > > that there was a lot of awakening in the temples along

> > > the East Coast.

> > >

> > > "It is a good thing that Hindu organisations from across

> > > America are coming together as one cohesive group of

> > > Hindus to protest this insult," Mr Parikh said.

> > >

> > > He also felt there was a lackadaisical attitude amongst

> > > the first generation Hindus when it came to such stand-

> > > offs. "It is the young, second generation Indian parents

> > > who have started thinking about Indian culture and

> > > religion that are more shaken up by such attacks on our

> > > beliefs," he said.

> > >

> > > While asserting that the latest propaganda by the

> > > Southern Baptists was offensive and stemmed from "an

> > > ignorance of Hindu tradition," Anuttama Dasa pointed out

> > > that there were many Christian groups who had spoken out

> > > against the Baptists.

> > >

> > > The Washington Inter-Faith Conference released a

> > > statement on Saturday criticizing the Baptists' verbal

> > > attack on Hindus. "There was a warm statement of goodwill

> > > towards Hindus released by the Vatican for Diwali,"

> > > Anutama Dasa said.

> > >

> > > Sources told The Asian Age that there has been an on-

> > > going struggle for leadership among the Southern Baptist

> > > community. Though largely controlled by conservative

> > > voices, there are several rival factions trying to edge

> > > each other out.

> > >

> > > There are many among the Southern Baptists who do not

> > > agree with this trend of attacking other religions,

> > > sources said.

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, in a letter addressed to attorney-general

> > > Janet Reno, the National Federation of Indian American

> > > Associations, the largest Indian American umbrella

> > > organization in the US, has asked for an investigation

> > > into the motives of the Southern Baptists' slander of

> > > Hinduism.

> > >

> > > "Their (the Southern Baptists) statement suggesting '900

> > > million people lost in the hopeless darkness of Hinduism'

> > > is nauseating. Ridiculing idol worship and insinuating

> > > Hinduism as ignorant, has produced a great amount of

> > > consternation and distress to those who to

> > > Hindu religion directly or indirectly in this country,"

> > > Subash Razdan, chairman of the NFIA board of trustees

> > > said in his letter to Ms Reno.

> > >

> > > "Their slander, timed with the festive and sacred

> > > celebrations of Diwali, smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance

> > > of American and of course, Indian history," Mr Razdan

> > > wrote.

> > >

> > > Copies of the letter were also forwarded to President

> > > Clinton, the FBI, Congressman Frank Pallone Jr and the

> > > Indian ambassador to Washington DC, Mr Naresh Chandra.

> > >

> > > "The American constitutional guarantees of religious

> > > freedom and expression of religious thoughts are being

> > > subverted by the fundamentalist and communalist Southern

> > > Baptists to belittle other religions and spread hatred

> > > and ill-feeling towards their followers," Mr Shyam Tiwari

> > > said, adding it was "unfortunate that the Southern

> > > Baptists are totally ignorant of Hinduism and its

> > > tenets."

> > >

> > > The prayer book is the second published by the Southern

> > > Baptists' International Mission Board his year, and has

> > > provoked charges of arrogance and religious

> > > insensitivity.

> > >

> > > "Pray that Hindus who celebrate the festival of lights

> > > would become aware of the darkness in their hearts that

> > > no lamp can dispel," the guide says.

> > >

> > > It goes on to describe Mumbai as the "city of spiritual

> > > darkness. Eight out of every 10 people are Hindu, slaves

> > > bound by fear and tradition to false gods," it reads. Or:

> > > "Satan has retained his hold on Calcutta through Kali and

> > > other gods and goddesses of Hinduism. It's time for

> > > Christ's salvation to come to Calcutta."

> > >

> > > The Southern Baptists planned to distribute the guide to

> > > its 40,000 churches across the US.

> > >

> > > Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for

> > > the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

> > >

> > > Panchaang for Sunday, October 31, 1999:

> > >

> > > Pramathin Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Jeevana Ritau

> > > Tula Mase Krishna Pakshe Bhanu Vasara Yuktayam

> > > Pushya-Aslesha Nakshatra Shubha-Shukla Yog

> > > Kaulava-Taitila Karana Ashtamee-Navame Yam Tithau

> > >

> > > Jai Maharaj

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> > >

> >

> >

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