Guest guest Posted April 1, 2000 Report Share Posted April 1, 2000 Dear Dinker Charak, You are very generous in respecting other people's cultures. However, according to Vedic literature such severely cold regions have never been meant for human settlement. Longtime before Kali-yuga the climates on earth were perfectly soft and regulated. Human beings dwelled only in the subtropical realms. Human life was equally regulated by religous principles (no meat eating, no illicit sex, no gambling and no intoxication). Due to the progress of Time and the changing of Ages human conduct became less strict and humanity lost its capacities to follow these principles. It became violent towards animals and even its own species. At the same time they procreated in an irresponsible way. The populations had to move to outer regions and some found their habitat even in barren land and high mountains where agriculture is almost impossible. If we talk about fundamental human conduct we have to consider long periods of time to understand its very slow changes and adaptations. Fortunately God has given humanity Vedic historical records of ancient times and parampara to learn understand these truths of human history. Kind regards, Indira dasi ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: dinker (AT) dcmds (DOT) co.in Aan: vediculture Verzonden: zaterdag 1 april 2000 15:18 Onderwerp: [world-vedic] Re: e-Mantra for good luck from Dalai Lama Hi All, We know eating habits are very culture and environment dependent. To have same eating having across all geograpihcal areas is simply impossible. Tibet is a very cold place. And so is north-east india. To survive in this cold human bodies need high-protein food. eg: meat. Cattle, mountain goat (not just cow) and yak are major source of meat. In plain it is very easy to have a good diet out of vegetarian food. Think. All cold regions across world are heavily meat eaters. Tibet was meat eating even before Buddha happened. They, are non-violent. That can be seen from the way they responded to Chinese agression. They immolated self rather than burn a soldier. We should understand a cultures habit and try to respect them. And where there is a need of change, suggest one. Like suggesting an equivalent food, in this case. Dinker Charak ----------------------------- Software Engineer, Open Systems Group DCM Technologies, India http://www.dcmtech.com The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ---------- Frank Morales[sMTP:fmorale1 (AT) students (DOT) wisc.edu] Saturday, April 01, 2000 4:21 AM vediculture [world-vedic] Re: e-Mantra for good luck from Dalai Lama Dear Indira Dasi, Namaskar. It's very true that Buddhism, generally speaking, does encourage ahimsa - and by logical extension, vegetarianism. The Buddha Himself (an avatara of Sriman Narayana), of course, taught strict vegetarianism (as per the Srimad Bhagavatam, etc.). Tibetan Buddhists, however, do not adhere to anything even remotely resembling a vegetarian diet. In fact, meat constitutes the majority of their diet. The Dalai Lama himself eats meat (I have met him), as do all Tibetan Buddhist lamas and nuns. I know dozens of such lamas and Richpoches, and have debated with them on this account. The non-philosophical answer that I'm usually given by them for this behavior is that, due to Tibet's harsh climate and terrain, it would not be really possible for Tibetan Buddhists to be vegetarians even if they wanted to. The philosophical account is much more complex, but revolves around the Buddhist conception that the ultimate reality is comprised of Sunyata, therefore leading to the negation of moral norms in any absolute sense. It is quite disheartening that individuals who claim to follow the non-violent precepts of the Buddha would be meat-eaters. It would be wonderful if devotees could patiently and lovingly encourage Tibetan Buddhists to take up vegetarianism. Jaya Sri Rama, Frank Morales (Pranakrsna dasa) At 12:03 AM 3/31/2000 +0200, you wrote: >>>> Hare Krishna! Thanks for your reply on e-mantra from Dalai Lama. In Vedic literature it is said that the main teaching of Lord Buddha was 'ahimsa' which is non-violence. This means no killing in any way, which includes a vegetarian diet. The highest authorities of Buddhism like the Dalai Lama certainly teaches ahimsa. I have never met the Dalai Lama, however, I suppose you can be sure that he will not touch meat either. If you have met some Buddhist monks enjoying meat and even beef of cow, you can be certain that these persons have not been true Buddhist monks but cheaters. I hope you are satisfied with this answer. Kind regards, Hare Krishna. Indira dasi. ------------------------- Frank Morales Languages and Cultures of Asia University of Wisconsin-Madison fmorale1 (AT) students (DOT) wisc.edu Home (608) 288-0266 Office (608) 262-6655 http://www.hinduweb.org/home/dharma_and_philosophy/dharma/ http://www.hinduweb.org/home/dharma_and_philosophy/vvh/ "How many have not asked 'What is Truth' and at bottom hoped that vast spaces would intervene before truth came so close to him that in the immediate now it would determine his duty for action at that very moment?" Soren Kierkegaard This is an information resource and discussion group for people interested in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its historical, archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India, Hinduism, God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome. eGroups.com Home: vediculturewww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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