Vivekananda and Ramakrishna were also meat eaters

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Laxmi N. Gupta wrote:

> In almost any body that has spiritual knowledge in India, the two gret

sages

> that achieved self-realization in past two hundred years are Ramakrishna

> paramhansa and Raman Maharshi. If Prabhupada considered otherwise, it is

> his problem and yours.

 

Its not only that Srila Prabhupada has considered it otherwise; see below

quotes

Bhagavad-gita 7.20/23 Lord Krishna also *confirms it* Himself.

 

 

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> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> "Laxmi N. Gupta" <lngsma; "eGroups Digest"

> <vediculture >

> Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:46 PM

> Vivekananda and Ramakrishna were also meat eaters

> > Laxmi N. Gupta wrote:

> > > >Swami Vivekananda and Paramhamsa Ramakrishna were also meat eaters.

> >

> > So --who cares for these deviants?

> >

> > > I guess you are the sole abiter of Dharma, now.

> >

> > P-l-e-a-s-e! at least be honest *to yourself*. The letter below was

> > *actually* written by A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (the founder

and

> > Acarya of ISKCON) to Satsvarupa in 1968. I am only *quoting* evidence

> and---

> > it *is* self-effulgent. There actually is in Bhagavad-Gita this verses

> > 7.20/23(see below) in reference nobody can deny it. This proves that

> > Vivekananda and Ramakrisha were deviants.

> >

> > 68-02-25.Letter: Satsvarupa

> > You may know also that Ramakrishna's worship of Kali makes him a

third

> > class man. In the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that one who worships the

> > demigods just like Brahma, Siva, Indra, Candra or demigoddesses like

> Kali,

> > Durga, Sarasvati, etc., are described as persons who have lost their

> > intelligence. One person who has lost his intelligence, how he can

become

> > an incarnation of God? A person who has lost his intelligence, is not

> even

> > counted amongst the higher section of society. So, the Ramakrishna is a

> > bogus man according to the statement of Bhagavad-gita. Vivekananda was

> also

> > not even intelligent man because he accepted Ramakrsna as incarnation

of

> > God. This Ramakrsna, who is actually Gadadhara Chatterjee, declared

> himself

> > as the same Rama and Krsna. If he is accepted as such by some person,

is

> he

> > very intelligent man? Suppose a man comes before somebody and says he

is

> > Pres. Johnson. and the foolish man accepts the pretender as Pres.

> Johnson,

> > is that man to be accepted as very intelligent man? Vivekananda was not

> > even an intelligent man because he accepted Gadhadhara Chatterjee as

> > incarnation

> > of God without any credentials. We accept Krsna, the Supreme

Personality

> of

> > Godhead on the evidence of Vedic literature. There is no evidence in

the

> > Vedic literatures that a common unintelligent person by worshipping a

> > demigoddess Kali can become an incarnation of Godhead. The goddess Kali

> is

> > divine mother for the conditioned souls, not for the liberated souls.

> There

> > is no direction in the Vedic literatures that one can become liberated

> even

> > by worshipping the goddess Kali. She is superintendent of the prison

> house

> > known as material world. One can derive some material facilities by

> > worshipping Kali or Durga, but nobody can become liberated by

worshipping

> > such demigoddesses, so what to speak of becoming incarnation of

Godhead.

> So

> > the propaganda that Ramakrsna became incarnation of God by worshipping

> Kali

> > is not accepted by any authorized acharya and therefore it is a bogus

> > propaganda. One who follows therefore, such bogus propaganda is also

> misled

> > as far as his spiritual advancement is concerned.

> >

> > Bg 7.20 kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah

> > prapadyante 'nya-devatah

> > tam tam niyamam asthaya

> > prakrtya niyatah svaya

> > SYNONYMS

> > kamaih--by desires; taih--by those; taih--by those; hrta--distorted;

> > jnanah--knowledge; prapadyante--surrender; anya--other;

devatah--demigods;

> > tam--that; tam--that; niyamam--rules; asthaya--following; prakrtya--by

> > nature; niyatah--controlled; svaya--by their own.

> > TRANSLATION

> > Those whose minds are distorted by material desires surrender unto

> > demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship

> > according to their own natures.

> >

> > Bg 7.23 antavat tu phalam tesam

> > tad bhavaty alpa-medhasam

> > devan deva-yajo yanti

> > mad-bhakta yanti mam api

> > SYNONYMS

> > anta-vat tu--limited and temporary; phalam--fruits; tesam--their;

> > tat--that; bhavati--becomes; alpa-medhasam--of those of small

> intelligence;

> > devan--demigods' planets; deva-yajah--worshipers of demigods;

> > yanti--achieve; mat--My; bhaktah--devotees; yanti--attain; mam--to Me;

> > api--surely.

> > TRANSLATION

> > Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are

> > limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets

of

> > the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet.

> >

> >

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