Guest guest Posted June 21, 2000 Report Share Posted June 21, 2000 Namaste, Where can i get a copy of "Our World Vedic Heritage by P.N. Oaks". Thank you, Chebiji In a message dated 6/20/00 11:59:01 AM, dino writes: << Posted by Dharmapada from the book Our World Vedic Heritage by P.N. Oaks, page 633: " Siddiqi’s article informs us that the name of the city Baghdad, ( which was a center of Hindu, Vedic learning ), itself is of Sanskrit derivation. " Bagh " means God and " dad " means given by, hence, Baghdad means a city given by God. This derivation belies the Muslim claim that Baghdad was built by Caliph Al-Masur in 762 – 763 A D., and that it was scientifically planned by him with the help of Indian engineers and architects. It is circular in design and claimed to be the first of Muslim cities. What is meant by the term first Muslim city is is that it was the first big, reknowned Vedic city captured by Islam outside of Saudi Arabia. If Baghdad was among the first few cities of Islam it should have been named Islamabad, Allahabad or Mohammadabad. How come that it was given a Sanskrit name commemorating the Vedic name for God, Bhagavan? Secondly, if it was a city built with the help of Hindu engineers and Hindu science and has a Hindu name, how could it be a Muslim city? Thirdly, we are told that the city was founded in 762 – 763 AD. Can a whole city be planned, built, inhabited and named all in one year? [ Especially back then! ] How many years does it take to plan a city, survey and acquire land, develop it, order building material, raise buildings and populate the city? And if Baghdad was newly created as a Muslim city, how was it an ancient center of Hindu learning? All such cross-questioning reveals the utter falsity of Muslim claims; and the utter gullibility of modern historians in just swallowing any Muslim claim without even the least examination. Another very important conclusion which emerges from the above Muslim version is that Baghdad, far from being built in 762 – 763A D, was subjected to a terrible sack and general massacre i n that year. Almost overnight the entire populace was terrorized into accepting Islam and from that day Baghdad was proclaimed a Muslim city. Consequently, all its Vedic temples were advetised to be Muslim mosques and tombs. This is a graphic instance of how, in Islamic terminology, ‘ built a city ‘ implies conversely its plunder and ravage. History itself has been concocted. As everybody was forced to become a Muslim not a sould was left to write about the terror and torture with which Baghdad was transformed into a Muslim city. This is true not only of Baghdad but of all land overrun by Islam. Everyone has been forever silenced and none is ever allowed to tell the story of how entire regions were overnight turned Muslim as though by a magic wand. This is proof that falsification of suppression of history has ipso facto become a basic Muslim tenet. Individuals and realms have been trained never to probe into how or when they became Muslim, but merely to keep repeating the fanciful glories of Islam." -------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> Posted by Dharmapada from the book Our World Vedic Heritage by P.N. Oaks, page 633: " Siddiqi’s article informs us that the name of the city Baghdad, ( which was a center of Hindu, Vedic learning ), itself is of Sanskrit derivation. " Bagh " means God and " dad " means given by, hence, Baghdad means a city given by God. This derivation belies the Muslim claim that Baghdad was built by Caliph Al-Masur in 762 – 763 A D., and that it was scientifically planned by him with the help of Indian engineers and architects. It is circular in design and claimed to be the first of Muslim cities. What is meant by the term first Muslim city is is that it was the first big, reknowned Vedic city captured by Islam outside of Saudi Arabia. If Baghdad was among the first few cities of Islam it should have been named Islamabad, Allahabad or Mohammadabad. How come that it was given a Sanskrit name commemorating the Vedic name for God, Bhagavan? Secondly, if it was a city built with the help of Hindu engineers and Hindu science and has a Hindu name, how could it be a Muslim city? Thirdly, we are told that the city was founded in 762 – 763 AD. Can a whole city be planned, built, inhabited and named all in one year? [ Especially back then! ] How many years does it take to plan a city, survey and acquire land, develop it, order building material, raise buildings and populate the city? And if Baghdad was newly created as a Muslim city, how was it an ancient center of Hindu learning? All such cross-questioning reveals the utter falsity of Muslim claims; and the utter gullibility of modern historians in just swallowing any Muslim claim without even the least examination. Another very important conclusion which emerges from the above Muslim version is that Baghdad, far from being built in 762 – 763A D, was subjected to a terrible sack and general massacre in that year. Almost overnight the entire populace was terrorized into accepting Islam and from that day Baghdad was proclaimed a Muslim city. Consequently, all its Vedic temples were advetised to be Muslim mosques and tombs. This is a graphic instance of how, in Islamic terminology, ‘ built a city ‘ implies conversely its plunder and ravage. History itself has been concocted. As everybody was forced to become a Muslim not a sould was left to write about the terror and torture with which Baghdad was transformed into a Muslim city. This is true not only of Baghdad but of all land overrun by Islam. Everyone has been forever silenced and none is ever allowed to tell the story of how entire regions were overnight turned Muslim as though by a magic wand. This is proof that falsification of suppression of history has ipso facto become a basic Muslim tenet. Individuals and realms have been trained never to probe into how or when they became Muslim, but merely to keep repeating the fanciful glories of Islam." <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <hr> <!-- |@|begin eGroups banner|@| runid: 5099 crid: 1588 --> <A HREF="http://click./1/5099/9/_/15635/_/961527490/"><center> <img width="468" height="60" border="0" alt="" src="http://adimg./img/5099/9/_/15635/_/961527490/eMailpromo468x60a 3.gif"></center><center></center></A> <!-- |@|end eGroups banner|@| --> <hr> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <tt> This is an information resource and discussion group for people interested in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its historical, archeological and scientific aspects. 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