[world-vedic] Digest Number 55

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after arduous study of the bhagavatam, i still find it rather implausible

that it was compiled 5000 years ago. compare its descriptions of

krishnalila to the vishnu purana's rather quaint descriptions, and the

sheer antiquity of the vishnu purana compared to the other is readily

evident. the bhagavatam seems to spend so much time with decidedly

moralistic points, while the vishnu purana seems more concered with

relating events, regardless of metaphorical value. this is especially true

in descriptions of krishna lila. of course the VP does gloss over the

entire kurukshetra event in little more than few lines; yet the point

remains.

 

what conclusive proof or need or validation or anything is there to

conclude that the Bhagavatam is older than 1200 years old? i dont think

the opinions of a few gaudiya scholars, pandits, or saints who talk 800

years later is very relevant to the issue...what more ancient proof is

there...in addition, if, as mr thompson does, you choose to use

astronomical references, then what proof is there that in later times

those astronomical facts were merely jotted down to form what eventually

would be the Bhagavatam? also, isn't it also likely that there was in fact

a bhagavata purana dating to dwaipayana's time, but that the current

bhagavatam is merely an evolute of it? or a more recent interpolation of

it?

 

regardless of the historicity of the text, i still treasure and love

everything about krishna in it.

 

uddhava dushyant

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> after arduous study of the bhagavatam, i still find it rather implausible

> that it was compiled 5000 years ago. compare its descriptions of

> krishnalila to the vishnu purana's rather quaint descriptions, and the

> sheer antiquity of the vishnu purana compared to the other is readily

> evident. the bhagavatam seems to spend so much time with decidedly

> moralistic points, while the vishnu purana seems more concered with

> relating events, regardless of metaphorical value. this is especially true

> in descriptions of krishna lila. of course the VP does gloss over the

> entire kurukshetra event in little more than few lines; yet the point

> remains.

 

 

I think that it is a possibility that the Bhagavatam was compiled after the

Vishnu Purana in order to insert Krishna lila, which was not a part of

Vishnu Purana. I don't require that VP talk about God's love life and who he

went out with at night- VP is still bonafide. In the same way, the Krishna

Lila in the Bhagavatam can be bonafide, even though the Bhagavat could be a

later literature.

 

I imagine that knowledge about Radha and Krishna lila was conserved through

the milenium after Krishna's departure, but that at some point, certain

devotees decided to institutionalise it and compiled the Bhagavatam, which

spends much less time on Vishnu Lila than on Krishna Lila.

 

IMHO

 

YS,

 

Dharmapada

 

 

 

 

> what conclusive proof or need or validation or anything is there to

> conclude that the Bhagavatam is older than 1200 years old? i dont think

> the opinions of a few gaudiya scholars, pandits, or saints who talk 800

> years later is very relevant to the issue...what more ancient proof is

> there...in addition, if, as mr thompson does, you choose to use

> astronomical references, then what proof is there that in later times

> those astronomical facts were merely jotted down to form what eventually

> would be the Bhagavatam? also, isn't it also likely that there was in fact

> a bhagavata purana dating to dwaipayana's time, but that the current

> bhagavatam is merely an evolute of it? or a more recent interpolation of

> it?

>

> regardless of the historicity of the text, i still treasure and love

> everything about krishna in it.

>

> uddhava dushyant

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