Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 >Additionally it may be mentioned that according to Webster's Thesaurus some >synonyms for 'omniscience' are as follows: God; the Creator; the Almighty; >the Supreme Being; our Heavenly Father; the Lord; and Allah. None of these >synonyms however are applicable to a pure devotee, the guru, or the >acharya. So our conclusion is obvious < 'omniscience' is a quality of the >Supreme Lord and not a quality of the pure devotee, the guru, or the >acharya. 60608mw.la Conversations Bharadvaja: I understand, Srila Prabhupada, that the pure devotee can be as pervasive as Supersoul? Prabhupada: Hmm? Bharadvaja: By the mercy of Supersoul, he can be present in many places at once? Prabhupada: Yes. By the grace of Krsna, a devotee can become anything. Duryodhana-guru: So in other words that means the pure devotees can be omniscient? Prabhupada: Everything. God is omniscient, so a pure devotee can become omniscient by the grace of God. Radhavallabha: Srila Prabhupada explains that Varuna is omniscient. SB 4.22.59 P Prthu Maharaja' s Meeting with the Four Kumaras Yamaraja, or Dharmaraja, as the superintendent of death, has to judge the criminal living entities who have committed sinful activities throughout their lives. Consequently Yamaraja is expected to be most expert in judicial matters. Prthu Maharaja was also highly learned and exceedingly exact in delivering his judgment upon the citizens. No one could excel him in opulence any more than estimate the stock of minerals and jewels in the Himalaya Mountains; therefore he is compared to Kuvera, the treasurer of the heavenly planets. Nor could anyone discover the secrets of his life any more than learn the secrets of Varuna, the demigod presiding over the water, the night, and the western sky. Varuna is omniscient, and since he punishes sins, he is prayed to for forgiveness. He is also the sender of disease and is often associated with Mitra and Indra. Madhya 20.353 T Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Sanatana Gosvami in the Science sarvajna munira vakya----sastra-'paramana' ama-saba jivera haya sastra-dvara jnana' SYNONYMS sarva-jna munira vakya--the words of the omniscient muni (Vyasadeva); sastra-paramana--evidence of revealed scriptures; ama-saba--all of us; jivera--of the conditioned souls; haya--there is; sastra-dvara--through the medium of revealed scriptures; jnana--knowledge. TRANSLATION "The Vedic literatures composed by the omniscient Mahamuni Vyasadeva are evidence of all spiritual existence. Only through these revealed scriptures can all conditioned souls attain knowledge. Isopanisad 13 Here is a correct description of the Supreme Lord, given by the Lord Himself. The words sarvasya pra-bhavah indicate that Krsna is the creator of everyone, including Brahma, Visnu and Siva. And because these three principal deities of the material world are created by the Lord, the Lord is the creator of all that exists in the material and spiritual worlds. In the Atharva Veda (Gopala-tapani Upanisad 1.24) it is similarly said, "He who existed before the creation of Brahma and who enlightened Brahma with Vedic knowledge is Lord Sri Krsna." Similarly, the Narayana Upanisad (1) states, "Then the Supreme Person, Narayana, desired to create all living beings. Thus from Narayana, Brahma was born. Narayana created all the Prajapatis. Narayana created Indra. Narayana created the eight Vasus. Narayana created the eleven Rudras. Narayana created the twelve Adityas." Since Narayana is a plenary manifestation of Lord Krsna, Narayana and Krsna are one and the same. The Narayana Upanisad (4) also states, "Devaki's son [Krsna] is the Supreme Lord." The identity of Narayana with the supreme cause has also been accepted and confirmed by Sripada Sankaracarya, even though Sankara does not belong to the Vaisnava, or personalist, cult. The Atharva Veda (Maha Upanisad 1) also states, "Only Narayana existed in the beginning, when neither Brahma, nor Siva, nor fire, nor water, nor stars, nor sun, nor moon existed. The Lord does not remain alone but creates as He desires." Krsna Himself states in the Moksa-dharma, "I created the Prajapatis and the Rudras. They do not have complete knowledge of Me because they are covered by My illusory energy." It is also stated in the Varaha Purana: "Narayana is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and from Him the four-headed Brahma was manifested, as well as Rudra, who later became omniscient." SB 6.3.10 P Yamaraja Instructs His Messengers The order carriers of Yamaraja, being very much aggrieved because of their defeat by the four Visnudutas, wanted to bring them before Yamaraja and, if possible, punish them. Otherwise they desired to commit suicide. Before pursuing either course, however, they wanted to know about the Visnudutas from Yamaraja, who is also omniscient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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