PART 4--Krsna Talk: Is a pure devotee, the guru or an acharya, omniscient?

[Guest guest]

Comparing Sridhara Maharaja teachings with Srila Prabhupada's teachings

 

>"The disciple is concerned with the delegation of the Lord, the guru's

>inner self, his inspired side.

 

740223mw.bom Conversations

Prabhupada: He's... just like your representative. Suppose if I have got you

some business. There is a call: "If you love me, you love my dog." It is not

the dog is you. Dog is different. But if you love somebody, you pat

sometimes, "Oh,...," the dog. Just to satisfy him. Yasya prasadad

bhagavat-prasadah. This is stated. If you satisfy guru, then God is

satisfied. That does not mean guru is God.

Dr. Patel: No, no, no! I don't say I think guru...

Prabhupada: Guru...

Dr. Patel: I don't understand and you also don't understand me. I mean to

say that disciples have got to take guru as God, and not this body as God.

His atma is guru, and atma is God. So guru in that way is God.

Prabhupada: No, that is not...

Dr. Patel: That is what I think.

Prabhupada: No!

Dr. Patel: And I don't think I am wrong.

Prabhupada: No, why God...? Why do you make...? Why do you distinguish

between guru's atma and guru's body?

Dr. Patel: But the body... But the body's not guru!

Prabhupada: That is Mayavada. That is Mayavada.

Dr. Patel: Even if you say guru is body,...

Prabhupada: They make also Krsna and Krsna's inside different.

Dr. Patel: Krsna's body is different from your body and my body. Krsna body

is spiritual.

Prabhupada: Then why do you make a... Once you say that guru is equal to

Krsna, and again Krsna's body and Krsna is not different, but guru's body

and guru's soul is different.

Dr. Patel: That's right.

Prabhupada: No. That's not right.

Dr. Patel: Atma is, atma is guru...

Prabhupada: That's not right. Please note it. If you compare the guru is

God, then you should compare similarity.

Dr. Patel: Similarity, this body and Krsna's body are different.

Prabhupada: No, no, no, no. That is an ignorance. You do not know.

Dr. Patel: Krsna's body is spiritual. His, any part of His body...

Prabhupada: The Mayavadis do that, that Krsna...

Dr. Patel: He can hear, He can hear by His eye and hear by His finger. And

satisfy anybody, by His anything.

Prabhupada: That's all right. That is all right. I mean to say that

saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih. When

you accept guru equal to Krsna, then you cannot make such distinction.

Dr. Patel: Bodily distinction...

Prabhupada: Then why bodily or anything!?