Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 Anthanarik wrote: >Vedic culture, is the culture of the people and religion of the >Vedas. I realize that you are a Hari Krsna. Is that vedic proper? Congratulations! You have just chanted the Holy name of Krsna. But its *HARE* KRSNA actually. Hari is also Krishna's name meaning : SB 1.7.10 P The Son of Drona Punished The word hari conveys various meanings, but the chief import of the word is that He (the Lord) vanquishes everything inauspicious and takes away the mind of the devotee by awarding pure transcendental love. By remembering the Lord in acute distress one can be free from all varieties of miseries and anxieties. Gradually the Lord vanquishes all obstacles on the path of devotional service of a pure devotee, and the result of nine devotional activities, such as hearing and chanting, becomes manifested. TLK Vs 32 Bhakti as Ultimate Liberation Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches us that we should only beg God for His service life after life. This is the actual meaning of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. When we are chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare Hare, we are actually addressing God and His energy, Hara. Hara is Krsna's internal potency, Srimati Radharani or Laksmi. Jaya radhe! This is daivi prakrti, and the devotees take shelter of the daivi prakrti, Srimati Radharani. Thus the Vaisnavas worship Radha-Krsna, Laksmi-Narayana and Sita-Rama. In the beginning of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra we first address the internal energy of Krsna, Hare. Thus we say, "O Radharani! O Hare! O energy of the Lord!" When we address someone in this way, he usually says, "Yes, what do you want?" The answer is, "Please engage me in Your service." This should be our prayer. We should not say, "O energy of the Lord, O Krsna, please give me money. Please give me a beautiful wife. Please give me many followers. Please give me some prestigious position. Please give me the presidency." These are all material hankerings, which should be avoided >Is that vedic proper? Read below, Lord Krishna is the COMPILER of the Vedas. Lord Krishna is KNOWER of the Vedas and --Lord Krishna is to be KNOWN --thats the OBJECT of VEDAS. Bhagavad gita AS IT IS 15.15 T The Yoga of the Supreme Person Translation by HIS DIVINE GRACE AC BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo VEDANTA-KRD VEDA-VID EVA CAHAM SYNONYMS sarvasya--of all living beings; ca--and; aham--I; hrdi--in the heart; sannivistah--being situated; mattah--from Me; smrtih--remembrance; jnanam--knowledge; apohanam ca--and forgetfulness; vedaih--by the Vedas; ca--also; sarvaih--all; aham--I am; eva--certainly; vedyah--knowable; vedanta-krt--the compiler of the Vedanta; veda-vit--the knower of the Vedas; eva--certainly; ca--and; aham--I. TRANSLATION I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. BY ALL THE VEDAS I AM TO BE KNOWN; INDEED I AM THE COMPILER OF VEDANTA, AND I AM THE KNOWER OF THE VEDAS. PURPORT The Supreme Lord is situated as Paramatma in everyone's heart, and it is from Him that all activities are initiated. The living entity forgets everything of his past life, but he has to act according to the direction of the Supreme Lord, who is witness to all his work. Therefore he begins his work according to his past deeds. Required knowledge is supplied to him, and remembrance is given to him, and he forgets, also, about his past life. Thus, the Lord is not only all-pervading; He is also localized in every individual heart. He awards the different fruitive results. He is not only worshipable as the impersonal Brahman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the localized Paramatma, but as the form of the incarnation of the Vedas as well. The Vedas give the right direction to the people so that they can properly mold their lives and come back to Godhead, back to home. The Vedas offer knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, and Krsna in His incarnation as Vyasadeva is the compiler of the Vedanta-sutra. The commentation on the Vedanta-sutra by Vyasadeva in the Srimad-Bhagavatam gives the real understanding of Vedanta-sutra. The Supreme Lord is so full that for the deliverance of the conditioned soul He is the supplier and digester of foodstuff, the witness of his activity, the giver of knowledge in the form of Vedas and as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna, the teacher of the Bhagavad-gita. He is worshipable by the conditioned soul. Thus God is all-good; God is all-merciful. Antah-pravistah sasta jananam. The living entity forgets as soon as he quits his present body, but he begins his work again, initiated by the Supreme Lord. Although he forgets, the Lord gives him the intelligence to renew his work where he ended in his last life. So not only does a living entity enjoy or suffer in this world according to the dictation from the Supreme Lord situated locally in the heart, but he receives the opportunity to understand Vedas from Him. If one is serious to understand the Vedic knowledge, then Krsna gives the required intelligence. Why does He present the Vedic knowledge for understanding? Because a living entity individually needs to understand Krsna. Vedic literature confirms this: yo 'sau sarvair vedair giyate. In all Vedic literature, beginning from the four Vedas, Vedanta-sutra and the Upanisads and Puranas, the glories of the Supreme Lord are celebrated. By performing Vedic rituals, discussing the Vedic philosophy and worshiping the Lord in devotional service, He is attained. Therefore the purpose of the Vedas is to understand Krsna. The Vedas give us direction to understand Krsna and the process of understanding. The ultimate goal is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Vedanta-sutra confirms this in the following words: tat tu samanvayat. One can attain perfection by understanding Vedic literature, and one can understand his relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead by performing the different processes. Thus one can approach Him and at the end attain the supreme goal, who is no other than the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In this verse, however, the purpose of the Vedas, the understanding of the Vedas and the goal of the Vedas are clearly defined. >No.----NOT-- No-----YES! IT *IS* VEDIC PROPER. Finally, Anthanarik wrote to Indira: Is that enough? Probably not for chauvinists that need to take another peoples culture to build themselves up. If one observes the language above "to take another peoples culture"---this is showing us his mentality--he is a racist--and obviously considers his race superior. Whereas Krishna consciousness does not appeal to him he cannot understand Krishna consciousness is transcendental to race barriers. What is there to take other peoples culture? The original VEDIC culture is coming from Krishna--- its KRISHNA'S property---as Krishna clearly says He is the father of ALL living entities. The whole creation is Krishna's. Bg 14.4 T The Three Modes Of Material Nature sarva-yonisu kaunteya murtayah sambhavanti yah tasam brahma mahad yonir aham bija-pradah pita SYNONYMS sarva-yonisu--in all species of life; kaunteya--O son of Kunti; murtayah--forms; sambhavanti--as they appear; yah--which; tasam--all of them; brahma--supreme; mahat yonih--the source of birth in the material substance; aham--Myself; bija-pradah--seed-giving; pita--father. TRANSLATION It should be understood that all species of life, O son of Kunti, are made possible by birth in this material nature, and that I am the seed-giving father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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