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Anthanarik wrote:

>Vedic culture, is the culture of the people and religion of the

>Vedas. I realize that you are a Hari Krsna. Is that vedic proper?

 

Congratulations! You have just chanted the Holy name of Krsna.

But its *HARE* KRSNA actually. Hari is also Krishna's name meaning :

 

SB 1.7.10 P The Son of Drona Punished

The word hari conveys various meanings, but the chief import of the word

is that He (the Lord) vanquishes everything inauspicious and takes away the

mind of the devotee by awarding pure transcendental love. By remembering the

Lord in acute distress one can be free from all varieties of miseries and

anxieties. Gradually the Lord vanquishes all obstacles on the path of

devotional service of a pure devotee, and the result of nine devotional

activities, such as hearing and chanting, becomes manifested.

 

TLK Vs 32 Bhakti as Ultimate Liberation

Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches us that we should only beg God for His

service life after life. This is the actual meaning of the Hare Krsna

maha-mantra. When we are chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare

Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare Hare, we are actually

addressing God and His energy, Hara. Hara is Krsna's internal potency,

Srimati Radharani or Laksmi. Jaya radhe! This is daivi prakrti, and the

devotees take shelter of the daivi prakrti, Srimati Radharani. Thus the

Vaisnavas worship Radha-Krsna, Laksmi-Narayana and Sita-Rama. In the

beginning of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra we first address the internal energy

of Krsna, Hare. Thus we say, "O Radharani! O Hare! O energy of the Lord!"

When we address someone in this way, he usually says, "Yes, what do you

want?" The answer is, "Please engage me in Your service." This should be our

prayer. We should not say, "O energy of the Lord, O Krsna, please give me

money. Please give me a beautiful wife. Please give me many followers.

Please give me some prestigious position. Please give me the presidency."

These are all material hankerings, which should be avoided

 

>Is that vedic proper?

 

Read below, Lord Krishna is the COMPILER of the Vedas. Lord Krishna is

KNOWER of the Vedas and --Lord Krishna is to be KNOWN --thats the OBJECT of

VEDAS.

 

Bhagavad gita AS IT IS 15.15 T The Yoga of the Supreme Person

Translation by HIS DIVINE GRACE AC BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA

 

 

sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto

mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca

vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo

VEDANTA-KRD VEDA-VID EVA CAHAM

 

SYNONYMS

sarvasya--of all living beings; ca--and; aham--I; hrdi--in the heart;

sannivistah--being situated; mattah--from Me; smrtih--remembrance;

jnanam--knowledge; apohanam ca--and forgetfulness; vedaih--by the Vedas;

ca--also; sarvaih--all; aham--I am; eva--certainly; vedyah--knowable;

vedanta-krt--the compiler of the Vedanta; veda-vit--the knower of the Vedas;

eva--certainly; ca--and; aham--I.

TRANSLATION

I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge

and forgetfulness. BY ALL THE VEDAS I AM TO BE KNOWN; INDEED I AM THE

COMPILER OF VEDANTA, AND I AM THE KNOWER OF THE VEDAS.

 

PURPORT

 

The Supreme Lord is situated as Paramatma in everyone's heart, and it is

from Him that all activities are initiated. The living entity forgets

everything of his past life, but he has to act according to the direction of

the Supreme Lord, who is witness to all his work. Therefore he begins his

work according to his past deeds. Required knowledge is supplied to him, and

remembrance is given to him, and he forgets, also, about his past life.

Thus, the Lord is not only all-pervading; He is also localized in every

individual heart. He awards the different fruitive results. He is not only

worshipable as the impersonal Brahman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead,

and the localized Paramatma, but as the form of the incarnation of the Vedas

as well. The Vedas give the right direction to the people so that they can

properly mold their lives and come back to Godhead, back to home. The Vedas

offer knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, and Krsna in

His incarnation as Vyasadeva is the compiler of the Vedanta-sutra. The

commentation on the Vedanta-sutra by Vyasadeva in the Srimad-Bhagavatam

gives the real understanding of Vedanta-sutra. The Supreme Lord is so full

that for the deliverance of the conditioned soul He is the supplier and

digester of foodstuff, the witness of his activity, the giver of knowledge

in the form of Vedas and as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna,

the teacher of the Bhagavad-gita. He is worshipable by the conditioned soul.

Thus God is all-good; God is all-merciful.

Antah-pravistah sasta jananam. The living entity forgets as soon as he

quits his present body, but he begins his work again, initiated by the

Supreme Lord. Although he forgets, the Lord gives him the intelligence to

renew his work where he ended in his last life. So not only does a living

entity enjoy or suffer in this world according to the dictation from the

Supreme Lord situated locally in the heart, but he receives the opportunity

to understand Vedas from Him. If one is serious to understand the Vedic

knowledge, then Krsna gives the required intelligence. Why does He present

the Vedic knowledge for understanding? Because a living entity individually

needs to understand Krsna. Vedic literature confirms this: yo 'sau sarvair

vedair giyate. In all Vedic literature, beginning from the four Vedas,

Vedanta-sutra and the Upanisads and Puranas, the glories of the Supreme Lord

are celebrated. By performing Vedic rituals, discussing the Vedic philosophy

and worshiping the Lord in devotional service, He is attained. Therefore the

purpose of the Vedas is to understand Krsna. The Vedas give us direction to

understand Krsna and the process of understanding. The ultimate goal is the

Supreme Personality of Godhead. Vedanta-sutra confirms this in the following

words: tat tu samanvayat. One can attain perfection by understanding Vedic

literature, and one can understand his relationship with the Supreme

Personality of Godhead by performing the different processes. Thus one can

approach Him and at the end attain the supreme goal, who is no other than

the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In this verse, however, the purpose of

the Vedas, the understanding of the Vedas and the goal of the Vedas are

clearly defined.

 

>No.----NOT-- No-----YES! IT *IS* VEDIC PROPER.

 

Finally,

 

Anthanarik wrote to Indira:

Is that enough? Probably not for chauvinists that need to take

another peoples culture to build themselves up.

 

If one observes the language above "to take another peoples culture"---this

is showing us his mentality--he is a racist--and obviously considers his

race superior. Whereas Krishna consciousness does not appeal to him he

cannot understand Krishna consciousness is transcendental to race barriers.

 

What is there to take other peoples culture? The original VEDIC culture is

coming from Krishna--- its KRISHNA'S property---as Krishna clearly says He

is the father of ALL living entities. The whole creation is Krishna's.

 

Bg 14.4 T The Three Modes Of Material Nature

sarva-yonisu kaunteya

murtayah sambhavanti yah

tasam brahma mahad yonir

aham bija-pradah pita

 

SYNONYMS

 

sarva-yonisu--in all species of life; kaunteya--O son of Kunti;

murtayah--forms; sambhavanti--as they appear; yah--which; tasam--all of

them; brahma--supreme; mahat yonih--the source of birth in the material

substance; aham--Myself; bija-pradah--seed-giving; pita--father.

 

TRANSLATION

 

It should be understood that all species of life, O son of Kunti, are made

possible by birth in this material nature, and that I am the seed-giving

father.

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