SRILA PRABHUPADA OUR JAGAD DIKSA GURU: LIVING STILL---- IN SOUND!

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ConversationsReporter (2): What will happen to the movement in the United

States whenyou die?Prabhupada: I WILL NEVER DIE.Prabhupada: I SHALL LIVE FROM

MY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL UTILIZE.690113LE.LA Lectures...vani and vapu, and vapu

means the physical body, and vani means thevibration. So we are not concerned

about the physical body. Not concerned means... We are concerned, of course,

because the spiritual master, those who are acaryas, their body is not

considered as materiel. Arcye sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir. Just like the statue

of Krsna, to consider that "This is a stone..." Similarly, arcye sila-dhir

gurusu na... Gurusu means those who are acaryas, to accept their body as

ordinary man's body, this is denied in the sastras. SO ALTHOUGH A PHYSICAL BODY

IS NOT PRESENT, THE VIBRATION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS THE PRESENCE OF THE

SPIRITUAL MASTER, VIBRATION. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, THAT

IS LIVING. Adi 1.35 The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there

is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him

byremembering his instructions. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL

MASTER'S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence,

therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.77-03-12

Letter: RajarsiPERSONAL SERVICE TO THE SPIRITUAL MASTER MEANS TO FOLLOW

HISINSTRUCTIONS. My request is the same for everyone: that they followstrictly

the regulative principles and chant at least sixteen rounds daily. And as much

time as they are able should be devoted for preaching according to our books.

DIKSA THE PROCESS of revealation thru Prabhupada's books.74-11-22 Letter:

BahurupaIn my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is EXPLAINED FULLY

so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to

read again and again. By reading daily THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU

AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.Madhya 15.108 "DIKSA IS

THE PROCESS BY WHICH ONE CAN AWAKEN HIS TRANSCENDENTAL KNOWLEDGE and vanquish

all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the

revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa."The potency of Prabhupada's

books ---PENETRATE THE HEART---AND INJECTKNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL --(DIKSA)SB

1.7.22 The spiritual master, BY HIS WORDS, CAN PENETRATE INTO THE HEART of

thesuffering person and INJECT KNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL, which alone

canextinguish the fire of material existence.75-03-14 Letter: SivaniTo take

SHELTER of the Spiritual Master MEANS TO FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS.SB 3.31.48

…"one has to associate with liberated persons NOT DIRECTLY,

PHYSICALLY,BUT BY UNDERSTANDING, THROUGH PHILOSOPHY AND LOGIC, THE PROBLEMS OF

LIFE.

 

SB 4.31.2 One desiring perfection or liberation SHOULD ASSOCIATE WITH A PERSON

WHO IS ALREADY LIBERATED. THIS IS CALLED SADHU-SANGA, ASSOCIATING WITH A

PERFECT DEVOTEE.EK 4 There are two conceptions of presence--the physical

conception and thevibrational conception. The physical conception is temporary,

whereas the vibrational conception is eternal. When we enjoy or relish the

vibration of Krsna's teachings in Bhagavad-gita, or when we chant Hare Krsna,

we should know that by those vibrations He is immediately present. He is

absolute, and because of this His vibration is just as important as His

physical presence. WHEN WE FEEL SEPARATION FROM KRSNA OR THE SPIRITUAL MASTER,

WE SHOULD JUST TRY TO REMEMBER THEIR WORDS OF INSTRUCTIONS, AND WE WILL NO

LONGER FEEL THAT SEPARATION. SUCH ASSOCIATION WITH KRSNA AND THE SPIRITUAL

MASTER SHOULD BE ASSOCIATION BY VIBRATION, NOT PHYSICAL PRESENCE. THAT IS REAL

ASSOCIATION. We put so much stress on seeing, but when Krsna was present on

this earth, so many people saw Him and did not realize that He is God; so what

is the advantage of seeing? By seeing Krsna, we will not understand Him, but by

listening carefully to His teachings, we can come to the platform of

understanding. We can touch Krsna immediately by sound vibration; therefore we

should give more stress to the sound vibration ofKrsna and of the spiritual

master--then we'll feel happy and won't feelseparation.680818SB.MON

LecturesPrabhupada: Oh, that you should not think. If... The words... There are

two conceptions: the physical conception and the vibration conception. So

physical conception is temporary. The vibration conception is eternal. Just

like we are enjoying or we are relishing the vibration of Krsna's teachings. So

by vibration He is present. As soon as we chant Hare Krsna or chant

Bhagavad-gita or Bhagavata, so He is present immediately by His vibration. He's

absolute. Therefore try to remember His words of instruction; you'll not feel

separation. You'll feel that He is with you. So we should associate by the

vibration, and not by the physical presence. That is real association. Sabdad

anavrtti. By sound. Just like we are touching Krsna immediately by sound. Sound

vibration. SO WE SHOULD GIVE MORE STRESS ON THE SOUND VIBRATION, EITHER OF KRSNA

OR OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER. THEN WE'LL FEEL HAPPY AND NO SEPARATION.CC

Concluding Words Today, Sunday, November 10, 1974--corresponding to the 10th of

Kartikka, Caitanya Era 488, the eleventh day of the dark fortnight,

theRama-ekadasi--we have now finished the English translation of Sri Krsnadasa

Kaviraja Gosvami' s Sri Caitanya-caritamrta in accordance with the authorised

order of His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Gosvami Maharaja, my

beloved eternal spiritual master, guide and friend.Although according to

material vision His Divine Grace SrilaBhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

Prabhupada passed away from this material world on the last day of December,

1936, I still consider His Divine Grace to be always present with me by his

vani, his words. There are two ways of association--by vani and by vapu. Vani

means words, and vapu means physical presence. PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS SOMETIMES

APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT, BUT VANI CONTINUES TO EXIST ETERNALLY. THEREFORE

WE MUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VANI, NOT THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE. Bhagavad-gita,

for example, is the vani of Lord Krsna. Although Krsna was personally present

five thousand years agoand is no longer physically present from the

materialistic point of view, Bhagavad-gita continues.

 

75-11-04 Letter: SuciYou have rightly said that the best way to associate with

the spiritualmaster is to follow his instructions. There are two ways of

associating, by vani and by vapu. Vani means words and vapu means physical

presence. PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS SOMETIMES APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT.

THEREFORE WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VANI, NOT THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE,

BECAUSE THE VANI CONTINUES TO EXIST ETERNALLY. Bhagavad-gita for example is the

vani of Lord Krishna. Although Krishna was personally present 5,000 years ago

and is no longer present physically from the materialistic viewpoint, still

Bhagavad-gita continues. So you have correctly concluded.70-06-22 Letter:

HamsadutaWE ARE NOT SEPARATED ACTUALLY. There are two--vani or vapu. So vapu

isphysical presence and vani is presence by the vibration, but they are all the

same. So Krsna when He was physically present before Arjuna is the same when He

is present before us by His vani of Bhagavad-gita. So far I am concerned, I do

not factually feel any separation from my Spiritual Master because I am trying

to serve Him according to His desire. That should be the motto. IF YOU KINDLY

TRY TO FULFILL MY MISSION FOR WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN SENT THERE, THAT WILL BE OUR

CONSTANT ASSOCIATION.770517ar.vrn ConversationsPrabhupada: So I cannot speak. I

am feeling very weak. I was to go to other places like Chandigarh program, but I

cancelled the program because the condition of my health is very deteriorating.

So I preferred to come to Vrndavana. If death takes place, let it take here. So

there is nothing to be said new. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my

books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am

present or not present, it doesn't matter. As Krsna is living eternally,

similarly, living being also lives eternally. But KIRTIR YASYA SA JIVATI: "ONE

WHO HAS DONE SERVICE TO THE LORD LIVES FOREVER." So you have been taught to

serve Krsna, and with Krsna we'll live eternally. Our life is eternal. Na

hanyatehanyamane sarire. A temporary disappearance of this body, it

doesn'tmatter. Body is meant for disappearance. Tatha dehantara-praptih. So

live forever by serving Krsna. Thank you very much.SB 4.21.48 Prthu Maharaja

was blessed by the saintly persons present at the meeting to have a long life

because of his unflinching faith and his devotion to the Supreme Personality of

Godhead. Although one's duration of life is limited in years, if by chance one

becomes a devotee, he surpasses the duration prescribed for his life; indeed,

sometimes yogis die according to their wish, not according to the laws of

material nature. Another feature of a devotee is that he lives forever because

of his infallible devotion to the Lord. It is said, KIRTIR YASYA SA JIVATI:

"ONE WHO LEAVES A GOOD REPUTATION BEHIND HIM LIVES FOREVER." SPECIFICALLY, ONE

WHO IS REPUTED AS A DEVOTEE OF THE LORD UNDOUBTEDLY LIVES FOREVER. When Lord

Caitanya Mahaprabhu was talking with Ramananda Raya, Caitanya Mahaprabhu

inquired, "What is the greatest reputation?" Ramananda Raya replied that a

person who is reputed as a great devotee has the greatest reputation, for a

devotee not only lives forever in the Vaikuntha planets, but by his reputation

he also lives forever within this material world.DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF

ACARYAS --- SRILA PRABHUPADA IS THE CURRENT ACARYA.SB 3.29.17 In Bhagavad-gita,

Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that oneshould execute devotional

service and advance on the path of spiritualknowledge by accepting the acarya.

ACARYOPASANAM: ONE SHOULD WORSHIP ANACARYA, a spiritual master who knows things

as they are. The spiritualmaster must be in the disciplic succession from Krsna.

THE PREDECESSORS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER ARE HIS SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GRAND

SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GREAT-GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER AND SO ON, WHO FORM THE

DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF ACARYAS.SB 3.29.17 It is recommended herewith that all

the acaryas be given the highestrespect. It is stated, gurusu nara-matih.

GURUSU MEANS "UNTO THE ACARYAS,"and nara-matih means "thinking like a common

man." To think of theVaisnavas, the devotees, as belonging to a particular

caste or community, to think of the acaryas as ordinary men or to think of the

Deity in the temple as being made of stone, wood or metal, IS CONDEMNED.Adi

7.115 In this connection the Padma Purana states, arcye visnau sila-dhir gurusu

nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih: "One who considers the arca-murti, the

worshipable Deity of Lord Visnu, to be stone, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER TO BE AN

ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, and a Vaisnava to belong to a particular caste or creed,

is possessed of HELLISH INTELLIGENCE." One who follows such conclusions is

doomed.73-11-25. Letter: CidanandaI should be returning to Los Angeles the last

week of November and Ishould be more than happy to see you there. Please always

try to remember me by my teachings and we shall always be together. Just like I

have written in the first publications of Srimad-Bhagavatam, "THE SPIRITUAL

MASTER LIVES FOREVER BY HIS DIVINE INSTRUCTION AND THE DISCIPLE LIVES WITH

HIM.", because I have always served my Guru Maharaja and followed His teachings

I am now even never separated from Him. Sometimes Maya may come and try to

interfere but we must not falter, we must always follow the chalked out path

layed down by the great acharya's and in the end you will see.