Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

SAHAJIYA

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

SAHAJIYASB 2.3.24 THE BHAVA STAGE IS MANIFESTED

BY EIGHT TRANSCENDENTAL SYMPTOMS, NAMELYINERTNESS, PERSPIRATION, STANDING OF

HAIRS ON END, FAILING IN THE VOICE, TREMBLING, PALENESS OF THE BODY, TEARS IN

THE EYES AND FINALLY TRANCE. The Nectar of Devotion, a summary study of Srila

Rupa Gosvami'sBhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, explains those symptoms and vividly

describes other transcendental developments, both in steady and

acceleratingmanifestations. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has very

critically discussed all these bhava displays in connection with some

unscrupulous neophyte's imitating the above symptoms for cheap appreciation.

Not only Visvanatha Cakravarti ,but also Srila Rupa Gosvami treated them very

critically. SOMETIMES ALL THE ABOVE EIGHT SYMPTOMS OF ECSTASY ARE IMITATED BY

THE MUNDANE DEVOTEES (PRAKRTA-SAHAJIYAS), BUT THE PSEUDO SYMPTOMS ARE AT ONCE

DETECTED WHEN ONE SEES THE PSEUDODEVOTEE ADDICTED TO SO MANY FORBIDDEN THINGS.

EVEN THOUGH DECORATED WITH THE SIGNS OF A DEVOTEE, A PERSON ADDICTED TO

SMOKING, DRINKING OR ILLEGITIMATE SEX WITH WOMEN CANNOT HAVE ALL THE

ABOVE-MENTIONED ECSTATIC SYMPTOMS. But it is seen that sometimes these symptoms

are willfully imitated, and for this reason Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti accuses

the imitators of being stonehearted men. They are sometimes even affected by

the reflection of such transcendental symptoms, yet if they still do notgive up

the forbidden habits, then they are hopeless cases fortranscendental

realization.NoD 28 Sometimes it is found that a nondevotee WHO HAS PRACTICALLY

NO TASTE FOR KRSNA AND WHO FOLLOWS NO RULES OR REGULATIONS CAN, BY PRACTICE,

MAKE A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SYMPTOMS, EVEN CRYING IN AN ASSEMBLY OF DEVOTEES.

This shedding of tears is not actually an ecstatic loving expression, however.

It is done simply by practice. Although there is no need to describe these

reflections of ecstatic love, Rupa Gosvami gives some instances where there is

no actual devotional service and such expressions are manifested.70-06-03

Letter: MakhanlalThe transcendental symptoms of ecstasy certainly are

auspicious, BUTTHEY ARE NOT FOR ADVERTISING TO OTHERS. ONE SHOULD NOT ADVERTISE

DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY THAT ONE IS FEELING LIKE THIS. THEY SHOULD BE CHECKED.

OTHERWISE ONE WILL GRADUALLY BECOME SAHAJIYA OR ONE WHO TAKES SPIRITUAL

ADVANCEMENT AS SOMETHING MATERIALLY MANIFEST.NoD 28 When there are

manifestations of ecstatic symptoms in the body of anondevotee, these are

called dried-up symptoms of ecstatic love. Thenondevotees ARE ACTUALLY

MATERIALISTIC, BUT IN CONTACT WITH SOME PUREDEVOTEE, THEY SOMETIMES MAY

MANIFEST SOME SYMPTOMS OF ECSTASY. DEVOTIONAL SCHOLARS CALL THESE DRIED-UP

SYMPTOMS.NoD 28 Rupa Gosvami says that the impersonalists' symptoms are simply

reflections of ecstatic love, NOT THE REAL THING.Antya 20.28 THE

PRAKRTA-SAHAJIYAS EXHIBIT THESE SYMPTOMS TO ADVERTISE THEIR SO-CALLED

ADVANCEMENT IN LOVE OF KRSNA, BUT INSTEAD OF PRAISING THE PRAKRTA-SAHAJIYAS FOR

THEIR SYMPTOMS OF TRANSCENDENTAL ECSTASY, PURE DEVOTEES DO NOT LIKE TO ASSOCIATE

WITH THEM. It is not advisable to equate the prakrta-sahajiyas with pure

devotees. WHEN ONE IS ACTUALLY ADVANCED IN ECSTATIC LOVE OF KRSNA, HE DOES NOT

TRY TO ADVERTISE HIMSELF. INSTEAD, HE ENDEAVORS MORE AND MORE TO RENDER SERVICE

TO THE LORD.NoD 40One should NOT ARTIFICIALLY try to establish some

relationship. In thepremature stage IT IS SOMETIMES FOUND THAT A LUSTY,

CONDITIONED PERSON WILL ARTIFICIALLY TRY TO ESTABLISH SOME RELATIONSHIP WITH

KRSNA IN CONJUGAL LOVE. THE RESULT OF THIS IS THAT ONE BECOMES

PRAKRTA-SAHAJIYA, OR ONE WHO TAKES EVERYTHING VERY CHEAPLY. Although such

persons may be very anxious to establish a relationship with Krsna in conjugal

love, their conditioned life in the material world is still most abominable. A

person who has actually established his relationship with Krsna can no longer

act on the material plane, and his personal character cannot be criticized.SB

4.24.45-46 WITHOUT SERVING KRSNA ACCORDING TO THE VIDHI-MARGA REGULATIVE

PRINCIPLES OF THE PANCARATRIKA-VIDHI, UNSCRUPULOUS PERSONS WANT TO JUMP

IMMEDIATELY TO THE RAGA-MARGA PRINCIPLES. SUCH PERSONS ARE CALLED SAHAJIYA.

There are also demons who enjoy depicting Krsna and His pastimes with the

gopis, taking advantage of Krsna by their licentious character. These demons

who print books and write lyrics on the raga-marga principles are surely on the

way to hell. Unfortunately, they lead others down with them. Devotees in Krsna

consciousness should be very careful to avoid such demons. ONE SHOULD STRICTLY

FOLLOW THE VIDHI-MARGA REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES IN THE WORSHIP OF LAKSMI-NARAYANA,

ALTHOUGH THE LORD IS PRESENT IN THE TEMPLE AS RADHA-KRSNA.RADHA-KRSNA INCLUDES

LAKSMI-NARAYANA; THEREFORE WHEN ONE WORSHIPS THE LORD ACCORDING TO THE

REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES, THE LORD ACCEPTS THE SERVICE IN THE ROLE OF

LAKSMI-NARAYANA. In The Nectar of Devotion full instructions are given about

the vidhi-marga worship of Radha-Krsna, or Laksmi-Narayana. Although there are

sixty-four kinds of offenses one can commit in vidhi-marga worship, in

raga-marga worship there is no consideration of such offenses because the

devotees on that platform are very much elevated, and there is no question of

offense. But if we do not follow the regulative principles on the vidhi-marga

platform and keep our eyes trained to spot offenses, we will not make

progress.NoD 16 THE SIDDHA-PRANALI PROCESS IS FOLLOWED BY A CLASS OF MEN WHO

ARE NOT VERY AUTHORIZED AND WHO HAVE MANUFACTURED THEIR OWN WAY OF DEVOTIONAL

SERVICE. THEY IMAGINE THAT THEY HAVE BECOME ASSOCIATES OF THE LORD SIMPLY BY

THINKING OF THEMSELVES LIKE THAT. This external behavior is not at all

according to the regulative principles. The so-called siddha-pranali process is

followed by the prakrta-sahajiya, a pseudosect of so-called Vaisnavas. In the

opinion of Rupa Gosvami, such activities are simply disturbances to the

standard way of devotional service. SRI RUPA GOSVAMI SAYS THAT LEARNED ACARYAS

RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES EVEN AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT

OF SPONTANEOUS LOVE FOR KRSNA.74-04-29 Letter: BhurijanaTHOSE WHO THINK THEY

HAVE ALREADY ATTAINED SUCH PERFECTION AND GIVE UP THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES ARE

CALLED SAHAJIYA, OR THOSE WHO TAKE THINGS CHEAPLY AND SIMPLY IMITATE. This early

rising, holding classes, going out regularly for sankirtana, worshiping the

deity are THE VERY SUBSTANCE of devotional life.Madhya 4.147 Sometimes a

SAHAJIYA PRESENTS HIMSELF as being void of desires FORREPUTATION (PRATISTHA) IN

ORDER TO BECOME FAMOUS AS A HUMBLE MAN. Suchpeople cannot actually attain the

platform of celebrated Vaisnavas.740815BG.VRN TAPASYA MEANS TO UNDERGO

VOLUNTARILY SOME INCONVENIENCES OF THIS BODY.BECAUSE WE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO ENJOY

BODILY SENSES, AND TAPASYA MEANSVOLUNTARILY TO GIVE UP THE IDEA OF SENSE

GRATIFICATION. THAT IS TAPASYA. Tapasya. Just like Ekadasi. Ekadasi, one day

fasting, fortnight. That is also tapasya. Or fasting in some other auspicious

day. That tapasya is good, even for health, and what to speak of advancing in

Krsna consciousness. So we should accept this tapasya. The upavasa. There are

many prescribed days for fasting. We should observe. And the preliminary

tapasya, no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication, no..., no meat-eating...

There may be some inconvenience, those who were accustomed to this practice, but

we'll have to accept. Tapo divyam putraka yena suddhyet sattvam. If we want to

purify our existence... At the present moment our existence is not purified,

impure. Therefore we are suffering. Just like when one's physiological

condition becomes infected, he suffers from fever and other symptoms of

disease, similarly, we are suffering in this material world on account of this

material body. If we want really happiness, then we must accept tapasya.

Tapasya is required. Without tapasya, if you think that very easily... Or

"WITHOUT TAPASYA, I CAN GET IT SIMPLY BY IMAGINATION," THEN YOU BECOME

SAHAJIYA, TO TAKE THINGS VERY EASILY. NO. TAPASYA.THEREFORE KRSNA SAYS THAT

TAPAS CASMI TAPASVISU. THAT ACCEPTANCE OF TAPASYA MEANS THAT TAPASYA IS ITSELF

KRSNA. YOU ASSOCIATE WITH KRSNA.730627SB.MAY So these are all symptoms of love

for Krsna. That is the highest perfection of life, to shed tears for Krsna.

Yugayitam nimesena caksusa pravrsayitam.SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU TAUGHT US THIS

METHOD OF WORSHIP IN SEPARATION,VIPRALAMBHA-SEVA. NOT THAT "OH, I HAVE SEEN

YESTERDAY. LAST NIGHT, I HAVE SEEN KRSNA. HE WAS SNATCHING MY CLOTH." THESE ARE

SAHAJIYAS. ACTUALLY, OUR WORSHIP SHOULD BE IN SEPARATION. The Gosvamis also

taught us like that. He radhe vraja-devike ca lalite he nanda-suno kutah. They

in the Vrndavana remained authorized persons. They were also searching after

Krsna. THEY NEVER SAID THAT "WE HAVE GOT KRSNA," NEVER SAID. HE RADHE

VRAJA-DEVIKE CA LALITE HE NANDA-SUNO KUTAH SRI-GOVARDHANA-KALPA-PADAPA-TALE

KALINDI-VANE KUTAH, GHOSANTAV ITI SARVATO VRAJA-PURE KHEDAIR MAHA-VIHVALAU.

SIMPLY KHEDAIR MAHA-VIHVALAU. THEY WERE LAMENTING IN SEPARATION. Vande

rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau. So this is the process of

Caitanya Mahaprabhu's worship. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was falling down on the

water, "Oh, I could not see Krsna." When He was grhastha, He was simply

consulting with mother, "Mother, I could not realize Krsna. What shall I do?

Where shall I go?" Mother said, "My dear son, why You are impatient? Everything

will be all right in due course." Caitanya Mahaprabhu was giving indication that

"I must leave home." Mother was also understanding that "This boy wants to leave

us." That was another perplexed position. So that is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's

teaching:yugayitam nimesenacaksusa pravrsayitamsunyayitam jagat

sarvamgovinda-virahena meGOVINDA-VIRAHENA: "IN SEPARATION FROM GOVINDA I AM

THINKING ONE MOMENT AS TWELVE YEARS." SOME OF YOU OR ALL OF US HAVE GOT THIS

EXPERIENCE. IF WE WANT SOMETHING VERY, VERY EAGERLY, THEN EVERY MOMENT BECOMES

A LONG TIME. "OH, IT IS NOT YET RECEIVED. IT IS NOT YET RECEIVED. IT IS NOT YET

DONE." YUGAYITAM NIMESENA. NIMESA, A MOMENT, A TWINKLING OF AN EYE, THAT IS

CALLED NIMESA. THAT APPEARS TO BE TWELVE YEARS. The gopis could not tolerate

even twinkling of eyes. They were condemning the creator, "The creator does not

know the art of creating. Why he has created this twinkling of eyes so that it

is disturbing us from seeing Krsna." Seeing Krsna, and the twinkling of eyes,

that is natural. So the gopis did not like it, that "Why he has created this?

He does not know the art of creation." This is love. Yugayi... Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu tasted the gopis' feelings. Sri-caitanyakhyam prakatam adhuna

tad-dvayam caikyam aptam. Radha krsna-pranaya-vikrtir hladini-saktih. Krsna,

when He wants to enjoy... He is the Absolute Supreme Person, spirit, Absolute,

the Supreme Spirit. SO FOR SPIRITUAL ENJOYMENT IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD GREAT

SAINTLY PERSONS, SAGES, THEY GIVE UP ALL MATERIAL ENJOYMENT JUST TO TASTE WHAT

IS SPIRITUAL ENJOYMENT, SPIRITUAL LIFE. BRAHMANUBHUTI. THEY GIVE UP EVERYTHING.

TAPASA BRAHMACARYENA. BY AUSTERITY, BRAHMACARYA, YAMENA, NIYAMENA, TYAGENA,

SATYA-SAUCABHYAM-- SO MANY PROCESSES THEY ADOPT FOR TASTING A LITTLE

BRAHMANUBHUTI. ITTHAM SATAM BRAHMA-SUKHANUBHUTYA DASYAM GATANAM PARA-DAIVATENA.

SO SUKADEVA GOSVAMI SAID THAT "HERE, THE KRSNA, HERE IS, PLAYING WITH THE

COWHERDS BOYS. WHO IS HE?" ITTHAM SATAM BRAHMA-SUKHANUBHUTYA. "THE GREAT SAGES,

SAINTLY PERSONS, WHO ARE TRYING TO TASTE THE SPIRITUAL REALIZATION, THAT IS

HERE. HE IS PLAYING AS COWHERD BOY." Dasyam gatanam para-daivatena: "And those

who are devotees, for them He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead."

Mayasritanam nara-darakena: "And those who are mayasrita, they are thinking,

'This Krsna is ordinary human child.' " Sakam vijahruh krta-punya-punjah: "SO

WITH THIS BOY, TRANSCENDENTAL KRSNA, COWHERD BOY, THE OTHER BOYS WHO ARE

PLAYING, THEY ARE NOT ORDINARY MEN." KRTA-PUNYA-PUNJAH. "THEY ACCUMULATED

PIOUSACTIVITIES LIFE AFTER LIFE FOR MANY, MANY THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF LIVES.

NOW THEY HAVE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY WITH KRSNA."So this Krsna

consciousness movement is very serious and important. Here are the sign, how

they love Krsna. One side, they are..., they cannot check the tears coming out,

"Krsna is going away." Another side, "Oh, if I shed tears, then there may be

inauspicity." How much perplexity, this two sides. Dilemma. Between the horns

of Scylla and Charybdis. That is the position. The lover, intense love creates

such situation, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu exhibited.yugayitam nimesenacaksusa

pravrsayitamsunyayitam jagat sarvamgovinda-virahena me"WITHOUT SEEING GOVINDA,

THE WHOLE WORLD IS VACANT." THIS IS LOVE. "Let me try to become Krsna

conscious. If it is done, all right. If it is not done, I shall remain in my

position. What is the loss?" Not like that. One must be so eager that without

Krsna consciousness, one should become mad. One should become mad. THAT IS SRI

CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU'S TEACHING, SEPARATION, NOT DIRECT CONTACT.Direct contact

is not possible. Neither that is the way of worshiping by the method of Sri

Caitanya Mahaprabhu. That is sahajiya-vada. "I am talking with Krsna. Krsna is

snatching my cloth." There is a book, one lady has written, his (her)

experience, that Krsna comes, He talks with her and snatches her cloth. She has

written openly. But this is not Caitanya Mahaprabhu's way. There is one

gentleman, Mr. Raya, in Poona, and he has got also woman. Everyone must have a

woman, parakiya. This is sahajiya-vada. This is sahajiya-vada. Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu never said, "This is the parakiya-rasa: one should have one woman."

No. He observed complete sannyasa life. Rather there was very, very severe,

rigid restriction about women. But now, these sahajiyas, they are going on in

the name of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu: aula, baula, kartta-bhaja, neda, daravesa,

sani sahajiya, sakhibheki, like that, so many. They are apa-sampradaya. REAL

CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU SAMPRADAYA IS THAT HE SHOULD BE FEELING LIKE CAITANYA

MAHAPRABHU, SEPARATION. Not sambhoga. Vipralambha. Vipralambha-seva: "Oh, I am

so wretched, I couldnot serve Krsna. How I can see Krsna? It is not possible."

In this way.That is the teaching of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. "But even though I

do not see Him, neither it is possible for me to see Him..." Means: "What I am?

I am insignificant person. Why Krsna come and see me?" This is right. "Why

shall I aspire after seeing Krsna? What qualification I have got?" This is

bhajana. This is bhajana. Why should I be proud that "Now I shall see Krsna"?

What I am? That is the teaching of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Aslisya va pada-ratam

pinastu mam marma-hatam karotu va adarsanat. Adarsana. "Without giving me

audience, You kill me, You break my heart; still, You are my Lord, You are my

worshipable Lord, nobody else." This is love. This is love. (Bengali:) Asan

krsna galai diba naiva beja tata(?). Not like that. "Krsna may not come. I may

not see Krsna for thousands and thousands of lives. I may rot in the hellish

condition of life for many, many births. That doesn't matter. Still, I cannot

give up Krsna consciousness." This is required. I may be sent to hell, heaven;

it doesn't matter. What qualification I have got that I want to see back to

home, back to Godhead?It is not so easy thing. So why should I be sorry for

that? I should behappy even in the hell simply by thinking of Krsna. That is

wanted. That is wanted. That is Krsna consciousness. So here is the example.

Tears by force are coming out: "Oh, Krsna is going away." At the same time,

they want to check: "There may not be any inauspicity for Krsna." They're

thinking Krsna, for Krsna, not for personal self. "Oh, I am now crying. I have

become very much fortunate. I am crying for Krsna." No. "my crying will create

inauspicity for krsna, I must check it." this is krsna consciousness.SB 4.29.14

EVEN IN SUCH A SACRED PLACE AS VRNDAVANA, INDIA, UNINTELLIGENT MEN PASS OFF THIS

RECTAL AND GENITAL BUSINESS AS SPIRITUAL ACTIVITY. SUCH PEOPLE ARE CALLED

SAHAJIYA. ACCORDING TO THEIR PHILOSOPHY, THROUGH SEXUAL INDULGENCE ONE CAN

ELEVATE ONESELF TO THE SPIRITUAL PLATFORM. FROM THESE VERSES OF

SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM, HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE DESIRES FOR SEXUAL

SATISFACTION ARE MEANT FOR THE ARVAK, THE LOWEST AMONG MEN. To rectify these

rascals and fools is very difficult. After all, the sex desires of the common

man are condemned in these verses. The word durmada means "wrongly directed,"

and nirrti means "sinful activity." Although this clearly indicates that sex

indulgence is abominable and misdirected even from the ordinary point of view,

the sahajiyas nonetheless pass themselves off as devotees conducting spiritual

activities.Adi Introduction Krsna's embracing Radharani or His dancing with the

cowherd girls in the rasa dance are generally not understood by ordinary men

because they consider these pastimes in the light of mundane lust. THEY

INCORRECTLY THINK THAT KRSNA IS LIKE THEMSELVES AND THAT HE EMBRACES THE GOPIS

JUST AS AN ORDINARY MAN EMBRACES A YOUNG GIRL. SOME PEOPLE THUS BECOME

INTERESTED IN KRSNA BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT HIS RELIGION ALLOWS INDULGENCE IN

SEX. THIS IS NOT KRSNA-BHAKTI, LOVE OF KRSNA,

BUTPRAKRTA-SAHAJIYA--MATERIALISTIC LUST. In order to avoid such errors, we

should understand what Radha-Krsna actually is. Radha and Krsna display Their

pastimes through Krsna's internal energy. THE PLEASURE POTENCY OF KRSNA'S

INTERNAL ENERGY IS A MOST DIFFICULT SUBJECT MATTER, AND UNLESS ONE UNDERSTANDS

WHAT KRSNA IS, ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT. KRSNA DOES NOT TAKE ANY PLEASURE IN

THIS MATERIAL WORLD, BUT HE HAS A PLEASURE POTENCY. Because we are part and

parcel of Krsna, the pleasure potency is within us also, but we are trying to

exhibit that pleasure potency in matter. KRSNA, HOWEVER, DOES NOT MAKE SUCH A

VAIN ATTEMPT. THE OBJECT OF KRSNA'S PLEASURE POTENCY IS RADHARANI; KRSNA

EXHIBITS HIS POTENCY, OR ENERGY AS RADHARANI AND THEN ENGAGES IN LOVING AFFAIRS

WITH HER. IN OTHER WORDS, KRSNA DOES NOT TAKE PLEASURE IN THIS EXTERNAL ENERGY

BUT EXHIBITS HIS INTERNAL ENERGY, HIS PLEASURE POTENCY, ASRADHARANI. THUS KRSNA

MANIFESTS HIMSELF AS RADHARANI IN ORDER TO EXHIBIT HIS INTERNAL PLEASURE

POTENCY. OF THE MANY EXTENSIONS, EXPANSIONS AND INCARNATIONS OF THE LORD, THIS

PLEASURE POTENCY IS THE FOREMOST AND CHIEF. It is not that Radharani is

separate from Krsna. Radharani is also Krsna, for there is no difference

between the energy and the energetic. Without energy, there is no meaning to

the energetic, and without the energetic, there is no energy. Similarly,

without Radha there is no meaning to Krsna, and without Krsna there is no

meaning to Radha. Because of this, the Vaisnava philosophy first of all pays

obeisances to and worships the internal pleasure potency of the Supreme Lord.

Thus the Lord and His potency are always referred to as Radha-Krsna. Similarly,

those who worship the name of Narayana first of all utter the name of Laksmi, as

Laksmi-Narayana. Similarly, those who worship Lord Rama first of all utter the

name of Sita. In any case--Sita-Rama, Radha-Krsna, Laksmi-Narayana—the

potency always comes first. RADHA AND KRSNA ARE ONE, AND WHEN KRSNA DESIRES TO

ENJOY PLEASURE, HE MANIFESTS HIMSELF AS RADHARANI. THE SPIRITUAL EXCHANGE OF

LOVE BETWEEN RADHA AND KRSNA IS THE ACTUAL DISPLAY OF THE INTERNAL PLEASURE

POTENCY OF KRSNA. ALTHOUGH WE SPEAK OF "WHEN" KRSNA DESIRES, JUST WHEN HE DID

DESIRE WE CANNOT SAY. WE ONLY SPEAK IN THIS WAY BECAUSE IN CONDITIONED LIFE WE

TAKE IT THAT EVERYTHING HAS A BEGINNING; HOWEVER, IN THE ABSOLUTE, OR

SPIRITUAL, LIFE THERE IS NEITHER BEGINNING NOR END. YET IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND

THAT RADHA AND KRSNA ARE ONE AND THAT THEY ALSO BECOME DIVIDED, THE QUESTION

"WHEN?" AUTOMATICALLY COMES TO MIND. WHEN KRSNA DESIRED TO ENJOY HIS PLEASURE

POTENCY, HE MANIFESTED HIMSELF IN THE SEPARATE FORM OF RADHARANI, AND WHEN HE

WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HIMSELF THROUGH THE AGENCY OF RADHA, HE UNITED WITH

RADHARANI, AND THAT UNIFICATION IS CALLED LORD CAITANYA.WHY DID KRSNA ASSUME

THE FORM OF CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU? IT IS EXPLAINED THAT KRSNA DESIRED TO KNOW THE

GLORY OF RADHA'S LOVE. "WHY IS SHE SO MUCH IN LOVE WITH ME?" Krsna asked. "What

is My special qualification that attracts Her so? And what is the actual way in

which She loves Me?" It seems strange that Krsna, as the Supreme, should be

attracted by anyone's love. We search after the love of a woman or a man

because we are imperfect and lack something. The love of a woman, that potency

and pleasure, is absent in man, and therefore a man wants a woman, but this is

not the case with Krsna, who is full in Himself. Thus Krsna expressed surprise:

"Why am I attracted by Radharani? And when Radharani feels My love, what is She

actually feeling?" In order to taste the essence of that loving affair, Krsna

appeared just as the moon appears on the horizon of the sea. Just as the moon

was produced by the churning of the sea, by the churning of spiritual love

affairs the moon of Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared. Indeed, Lord Caitanya's

complexion was golden, just like the moon. Although this is figurative

language, it conveys the meaning behind the appearance ofCaitanya

Mahaprabhu.Madhya 8.204-205 Some material sahajiyas who cannot actually

understand the pastimes ofradha and krsna manufacture their own life-styles

without referring toauthority. Such sahajiyas are called sakhi-bheki, and

sometimes they are called gaura-nagari. THEY BELIEVE THAT THE MATERIAL BODY,

WHICH IS FIT TO BE EATEN BY JACKALS AND DOGS, IS ENJOYABLE FOR KRSNA.

CONSEQUENTLY THEY ARTIFICIALLY DECORATE THE MATERIAL BODY TO ATTRACT KRSNA,

THINKING THEMSELVES SAKHIS. BUT KRSNA IS NEVER ATTRACTED BY THE ARTIFICIAL

GROOMING OF THE MATERIAL BODY. AS FAR AS SRIMATI RADHARANI AND HER GOPIS ARE

CONCERNED, THEIR BODIES, HOMES, DRESSES, ORNAMENTS, ENDEAVORS AND ACTIVITIES

ARE ALL SPIRITUAL.Adi 4.108 Those under the shelter of the lotus feet of Sri

Caitanya Mahaprabhu can understand that His mode of worship of the Supreme Lord

Krsna in separation is the real worship of the Lord. WHEN THE FEELINGS OF

SEPARATION BECOME VERY INTENSE, ONE ATTAINS THE STAGE OF MEETING SRI KRSNA.

So-called devotees like the sahajiyas CHEAPLY IMAGINE they are meeting krsna in

vrndavana. Such thinking may be useful, but actually meeting Krsna is possible

through the attitude of separation taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.Adi 7.48

In the parampara system, the instructions taken from the bona fidespiritual

master must also be based on revealed Vedic scriptures. ONE WHO IS IN THE LINE

OF DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION CANNOT MANUFACTURE HIS OWN WAY OF BEHAVIOR. There are

many so-called followers of the Vaisnava cult in the line of Caitanya

Mahaprabhu who do not scrupulously follow the conclusions of the sastras, and

therefore they are considered to be apa-sampradaya, which means "outside of the

sampradaya." SOME OF THESE GROUPS ARE KNOWN AS AULA, BAULA, KARTABHAJA, NEDA,

DARAVESA, SANI SAHAJIYA, SAKHIBHEKI, SMARTA, JATA-GOSANI, ATIVADI, CUDADHARI

AND GAURANGA-NAGARI. IN ORDER TO FOLLOW STRICTLY THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF

LORD CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU, ONE SHOULD NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THESE APASAMPRADAYA

COMMUNITIES.72-07-14 Letter: BhavanandaOne thing, on the invitation card you

have written ALL GLORIES TO OURGURU MAHARAJA. THIS IS IMPERSONALISM. AS SOON AS

WE OFFER OBEISANCES TOGURU, THE NAME SHOULD BE THERE. WE ARE STRICTLY

PERSONALISTS. THESAHAJIYA'S, THEY WRITE GLORIES TO GURU. WHY YOU ARE LEARNING

THISIMPERSONALISM, WHO HAS TAUGHT YOU? Daily I am offering obeisances to myGuru

by vibrating his real name, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, otherwise it is

impersonal.Madhya 1.34 THE PRAKRTA-SAHAJIYAS DO NOT CONSULT THE VEDIC

LITERATURE, AND THEY AREDEBAUCHEES, WOMAN-HUNTERS AND SMOKERS OF GANJA.

SOMETIMES THEY GIVE ATHEATRICAL PERFORMANCE AND CRY FOR THE LORD WITH TEARS IN

THEIR EYES. Of course, all scriptural conclusions are washed off by these

tears. The prakrta-sahajiyas do not realize that they are violating the orders

of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, who specifically said that to understand Vrndavana

and the pastimes of Vrndavana one must have sufficient knowledge of the sastras

(Vedic scriptures). AS STATED IN SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM (1.2.12), BHAKTYA

SRUTA-GRHITAYA. THIS MEANS THAT DEVOTIONAL SERVICE IS ACQUIRED FROM VEDIC

KNOWLEDGE. TAC CHRADDADHANAH MUNAYAH. DEVOTEES WHO ARE ACTUALLY SERIOUS ATTAIN

BHAKTI, SCIENTIFIC DEVOTIONAL SERVICE, BY HEARING VEDIC SCRIPTURES (BHAKTYA

SRUTA-GRHITAYA). IT IS NOT THAT ONE SHOULD CREATE SOMETHING OUT OF

SENTIMENTALITY, BECOME A SAHAJIYA AND ADVOCATE SUCH CONCOCTED DEVOTIONAL

SERVICE.Adi 7.72 TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THESE VERSES, THERE ARE SOME SAHAJIYAS

WHO, TAKINGEVERYTHING VERY CHEAPLY, CONSIDER THEMSELVES ELEVATED VAISNAVAS BUT

DO NOT CARE EVEN TO TOUCH THE VEDANTA-SUTRA OR VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY. A REAL

VAISNAVA SHOULD, HOWEVER, STUDY VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY, BUT IF AFTER STUDYING

VEDANTA ONE DOES NOT ADOPT THE CHANTING OF THE HOLY NAME OF THE LORD, HE IS NO

BETTER THAN A MAYAVADI. Therefore, one should not be a Mayavadi, yet one should

not be unaware of the subject matter of Vedanta philosophy. Indeed, Caitanya

Mahaprabhu exhibited His knowledge of Vedanta in His discourses with

Prakasananda Sarasvati. Thus it is to be understood that a Vaisnava should be

completely conversant with Vedanta philosophy, yet he should not think that

studying Vedanta is all in all and therefore be unattached to the chanting of

the holy name. A devotee must know the importance of simultaneously

understanding Vedanta philosophy and chanting the holynames. If by studying

Vedanta one becomes an impersonalist, he has not been able to understand

Vedanta. THIS IS CONFIRMED IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA (15.15). VEDANTA MEANS "THE END

OF KNOWLEDGE." THE ULTIMATE END OF KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWLEDGE OF KRSNA, WHO IS

IDENTICAL WITH HIS HOLY NAME. Cheap Vaisnavas (sahajiyas) do not care to study

the Vedanta philosophy as commented upon by the four acaryas. IN THE

GAUDIYA-SAMPRADAYA THERE IS A VEDANTA COMMENTARY CALLED THE GOVINDA-BHASYA, BUT

THE SAHAJIYAS CONSIDER SUCH COMMENTARIES TO BE UNTOUCHABLE PHILOSOPHICAL

SPECULATION, AND THEY CONSIDER THE ACARYAS TO BE MIXED DEVOTEES. THUS THEY

CLEAR THEIR WAY TO HELL.Adi 7.102 The Vaisnavas are by far the greatest

philosophers in the world, and the greatest among them was Srila Jiva Gosvami

Prabhu, whose philosophy was again presented less than four hundred years later

by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Maharaja. Therefore one must know

very well that Vaisnava philosophers are not sentimentalists or cheap devotees

like the sahajiyas. ALL THE VAISNAVA ACARYAS WERE VASTLY LEARNED SCHOLARS WHO

UNDERSTOOD VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY FULLY, FOR UNLESS ONE KNOWS VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY HE

CANNOT BE AN ACARYA.Adi 7.168The Panca-tattva is a very important factor in

understanding SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu. THERE ARE SAHAJIYAS WHO, NOT KNOWING THE

IMPORTANCE OF THE PANCA-TATTVA, CONCOCT THEIR OWN SLOGANS, SUCH AS BHAJA NITAI

GAURA, RADHE SYAMA, JAPA HARE KRSNA HARE RAMA OR SRI-KRSNA-CAITANYA

PRABHU-NITYANANDA HARE KRSNA HARE RAMA SRI-RADHE GOVINDA. Such chants may be

good poetry, but they cannot help us to go forward in devotional service. In

such chants there are also many discrepancies, which need not be discussed

here. STRICTLY SPEAKING, WHEN CHANTING THE NAMES OF THE PANCA-TATTVA, ONE

SHOULD FULLY OFFER HIS OBEISANCES: SRI-KRSNA-CAITANYA PRABHU-NITYANANDA

SRI-ADVAITA GADADHARA SRIVASADI-GAURA-BHAKTA-VRNDA. BY SUCH CHANTING ONE IS

BLESSED WITH THE COMPETENCY TO CHANT THE HARE KRSNA MAHA-MANTRA WITHOUT

OFFENSE. WHEN CHANTING THE HARE KRSNA MAHA-MANTRA, ONE SHOULD ALSO CHANT IT

FULLY: HARE KRSNA, HARE KRSNA, KRSNA KRSNA, HARE HARE. HARE RAMA, HARE RAMA,

RAMA RAMA, HARE HARE. One should not foolishly adopt any of the slogans

concocted by imaginative devotees. IF ONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO DERIVE THE EFFECTS

OF CHANTING, ONE MUST STRICTLY FOLLOW THE GREAT ACARYAS. THIS IS CONFIRMED IN

THE MAHABHARATA: MAHA-JANO YENA GATAH SA PANTHAH. "THE REAL PATH OF PROGRESS IS

THAT WHICH IS TRAVERSED BY GREAT ACARYAS AND AUTHORITIES."Adi 8.22 The

prakrta-sahajiyas who chant nitai-gaura radhe syama have very little knowledge

of the Bhagavata conclusion, and they hardly follow the Vaisnava rules and

regulations, and yet because they chant bhaja nitai-gaura, their chanting

immediately invokes tears and other signs of ecstasy. Although they do not know

the principles of vaisnava philosophy and are not very advanced in education, by

these symptoms they attract many men to become their followers. Their ecstatic

tears will of course help them in the long run, for as soon as they come IN

CONTACT WITH A PURE DEVOTEE THEIR LIVES WILL BECOME SUCCESSFUL. Even in the

beginning, however, because they are chanting the holy names of nitai-gaura,

their swift advancement on the path of love of Godhead is very prominently

visible.Madhya 1.208 "AFTER INITIATION, the disciple's name must be changed to

indicate thathe is a servant of Lord Visnu. The disciple should also

immediately begin marking his body with tilaka (urdhva-pundra), especially his

forehead. These are spiritual marks, symptoms of a perfect Vaisnava." This is a

verse from the Padma Purana, Uttara-khanda. A MEMBER OF THE SAHAJIYA-SAMPRADAYA

DOES NOT CHANGE HIS NAME; THEREFORE HE CANNOT BE ACCEPTED AS A GAUDIYA

VAISNAVA. If a person does not change his name after initiation, it is to be

understood that he will continue in his bodily conception of life.Madhya 3.70

The word upakarana indicates a variety of foods, such as dal, vegetables and

other varieties of possible dishes that one can eat very nicely with rice. IT

IS NOT PROPER, HOWEVER, FOR A SANNYASI TO EAT SUCH PALATABLE DISHES. IF HE DID

SO, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL HIS SENSES. SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU DID NOT

ENCOURAGE SANNYASIS TO EAT VERY PALATABLE DISHES, FOR THE WHOLE VAISNAVA CULT IS

VAIRAGYA-VIDYA, AS RENOUNCED AS POSSIBLE. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also advised

Raghunatha dasa Gosvami not to eat very palatable dishes, wear very nice

garments or talk on mundane subjects. These things are all prohibited for those

in the renounced order. A devotee does not accept anything to eat that is not

first offered to Krsna. All the rich foods offered to Krsna are given to the

grhasthas, the householders. There are many nice things offered to

Krsna--garlands, bedsteads, nice ornaments, nice food and even nicely prepared

pan, betel nuts--but a humble Vaisnava, thinking his body material and nasty,

does not accept such preparations for himself. He thinks that by accepting such

things he will offend the lotus feet of the Lord. THOSE WHO ARE SAHAJIYAS CANNOT

UNDERSTAND WHAT SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU MEANT WHEN HE ASKED ADVAITA ACARYA TO

BRING TWO SEPARATE LEAVES AND GIVE A SMALL QUANTITY OF THE PRASADA TO HIM.Note:

here is how the history is going to repeat itself. CaitanyaMahaprabhu predicts

how the spirit of His cult is going to be spoilt by the sahajiyas.Madhya 1.271

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu warned all His followers not to becomeindependent or

impudent. Unfortunately, after the disappearance of LordCaitanya Mahaprabhu,

many apa-sampradayas (SO-CALLED FOLLOWERS) INVENTED MANY WAYS NOT APPROVED BY

THE ACARYAS. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has described them as the aula, baula,

kartabhaja, neda, daravesa, sani sahajiya, sakhibheki, smarta, jata-gosani,

ativadi, cudadhari and gauranga-nagari. The aula-sampradaya, baula-sampradaya

and others invented their own ways of understanding Lord Caitanya's philosophy,

without following in the footsteps of the acaryas. SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU

HIMSELF INDICATES HEREIN THAT ALL SUCH ATTEMPTS WOULD SIMPLY SPOIL THE SPIRIT

OF HIS CULT.Note: this is again predicted by Srila Prabhupada and

BhaktisiddhantaSaraswati Thakura. Again the history repeats itself. Also

carefully notice how Srila Prabhupada says "MORE DANGEROUS".770124r2.bhu

Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say, "WHEN our men will be sahajiya, he

will be MORE DANGEROUS."Satsvarupa: Our own men.Prabhupada: Bhaktisiddhanta

Sarasvati Thakura, he said that "WHEN OUR MEN WILL BE SAHAJIYA, OH, THEY'LL BE

MORE DANGEROUS." SO OUR MEN ARE BECOMING, SOME OF THEM, SAHAJIYAS. This very

word he said, that "WHEN our men will be sahajiyas he'll be MORE

DANGEROUS."Note: what was to follow was at the time of Bhaktisiddhanta

SaraswatiThakura's disappearance was a scheme to invent "acaryas" by

nomination.Prabhupada BEGS with humility for the devotees to see the sense. BUT

ashistory shows and as Prabhupada predicts In the Isopanisad 12 they WILL NOT

LISTEN. The GBC disobeyed Prabhupada and created a self made guru system of

nomination (voting) of 2/3 majority. They do not address themselves as acaryas

yet? BUT they want to be worshiped as good as God the prerogative which is

offered ONLY to the acarya. Otherwise what is the meaning of this so-called

gurus Photos on the altar and Vyasa puja for? This shows just how much they

envied Srila Prabhupada because of the position of acarya he held. The honest

position of the ritvik allows them to stem their lust for power. SPL 74-04-28

RupanugaIf Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time

to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away

he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. HIS IDEA WAS ACARYA

WAS NOT TO BE NOMINATED AMONGST THE GOVERNING BODY. He said openly you make a

GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who

would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically

selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly

selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. THE RESULT IS NOW EVERYONE

IS CLAIMING TO BE ACARYA EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE KANISTHA ADHIKARI WITH NO

ABILITY TO PREACH. IN SOME OF THE CAMPS THE ACARYA IS BEING CHANGED THREE TIMES

A YEAR. THEREFORE WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP.

ACTUALLY AMONGST MY GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. So it is

better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of

inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them.Note: Most

dangerous the Spiritual master business----seeking customers.760628bj.nv

Prabhupada: So-called gurus, they are so-called gurus. They are not gurus. That

is already explained. If one does not speak what Krsna speaks, he is not guru.

If you accept so-called guru, that is your misfortune. What can be done?Pusta

Krsna: Some of them will say some things that Krsna says, but they'll take from

other places also. What is the position of such persons?Prabhupada: HE'S MOST

DANGEROUS. He's most dangerous. HE IS OPPORTUNIST. HE'S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER,

something here... According to the customer he is giving something, as the

customers will be pleased. So he is not guru.Note: Just see how this sahajiyas

are competing with Srila Prabhupada the acarya and heading for hell (they may

not believe---but destiny will unfold).Iso 12 The Lord states that as soon as

one reaches Him by devotionalservice--which is the one and only way to approach

the Personality ofGodhead--one attains complete freedom from the bondage of

birth and death. In other words, the path of salvation from the material

clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained

from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR

DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN

SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES

DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. By a false display of religious sentiments,

they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of

immoral activities. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF

GOD. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the

authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession.

THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST WORSHIP THE

ACARYA"--and Krsna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam

parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the

disciplic succession." INSTEAD, TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL THEY

THEMSELVES BECOME SO-CALLED ACARYAS, BUT THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES

OF THE ACARYAS. These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society.

Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of

the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly

declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious

propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20).

SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE

MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL

MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.Note: the

BONA FIDE guru is the ACARYA. The word Bona fide means genuine, sincere. There

is no meaning to the word genuine if the so-called gurus invented by the GBC

fall down (which everyone knows they are already fallen---having disobeyed

Prabhupada). What to speak of falling! By allowing homosex child rapes how

fallen can one get? On top of this they want to pretend to be acaryas---to be

worshipped as good as God---how audacious can one get!Madhya 8.312 The process

is maha-jano yena gatah sa panthah: one has to STRICTLY FOLLOW GREAT

PERSONALITIES AND ACARYAS. ACARYA-van puruso veda: one who HAS THE FAVOR OF THE

ACARYA KNOWS EVERYTHING. This statement made by Kaviraja Gosvami is very

valuable for all pure devotees. Sometimes the prakrta sahajiyas claim that they

have heard the truth from their guru. BUT ONE CANNOT HAVE TRANSCENDENTAL

KNOWLEDGE SIMPLY BY HEARING FROM A GURU WHO IS NOT BONA FIDE. The guru must be

bona fide, and he must have heard from his bona fide guru.NoD 7 Those who do

not strictly follow the principles of revealed scriptures are generally CALLED

SAHAJIYAS--THOSE WHO HAVE IMAGINED EVERYTHING TO BE CHEAP,WHO HAVE THEIR OWN

CONCOCTED IDEAS, AND WHO DO NOT FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURAL INJUNCTIONS. SUCH PERSONS

ARE SIMPLY CREATING DISTURBANCES IN THE DISCHARGE OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE.KB 29

ONE SHOULD NOT FOLLOW THE MEN CALLED SAHAJIYA, THE SO-CALLED DEVOTEES WHO TAKE

EVERYTHING VERY LIGHTLY.NoI 5 This is the way to cultivate devotional service

properly; therefore inthis verse Srila Rupa Gosvami has advised us how to treat

various devotees. We can see from practical experience that there are different

types of Vaisnavas. The prakrta-sahajiyas generally chant the Hare Krsna

maha-mantra, yet they are attached to women, money and intoxication. Although

such persons may chant the holy name of the Lord, they are not yet properly

purified. SUCH PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPECTED WITHIN ONE'S MIND, BUT THEIR

ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE AVOIDED.Antya 6.278 Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati

Thakura suggests that people who areMATERIALISTICALLY INCLINED AND SAHAJIYAS,

OR SO-CALLED VAISNAVAS WHO TAKE EVERYTHING VERY CASUALLY, ARE BOTH VISAYI

MATERIALISTS. EATING FOOD OFFERED BY THEM CAUSES CONTAMINATION, AND AS A RESULT

OF SUCH CONTAMINATION, EVEN A SERIOUS DEVOTEE BECOMES LIKE A MATERIALISTIC MAN.

There are SIX KINDS OF ASSOCIATION--giving charity, accepting charity,

accepting food, offering food, talking confidentially and inquiring

confidentially. ONE SHOULD VERY CAREFULLY AVOID ASSOCIATING WITH BOTH THE

SAHAJIYAS, WHO ARE SOMETIMES KNOWN AS VAISNAVAS, AND THE NON-VAISNAVAS, OR

AVAISNAVAS. THEIR ASSOCIATION CHANGES THE TRANSCENDENTAL DEVOTIONAL SERVICE OF

LORD KRSNA INTO SENSE GRATIFICATION, AND WHEN SENSE GRATIFICATION ENTERS THE

MIND OF A DEVOTEE, HE IS CONTAMINATED. THE MATERIALISTIC PERSON WHO ASPIRES

AFTER SENSE GRATIFICATION CANNOT PROPERLY THINK OF KRSNA.Madhya 12.195 Sangat

sanjayate kamah (Bg. 2.62). One develops his consciousnessaccording to society

and association. As Srila Nityananda Prabhu admits, a devotee should be very

careful when associating with those who are not devotees. When asked by a

householder devotee what the behavior of a devotee should be, Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu immediately replied:asat-sanga-tyaga,----ei

vaisnava-acara'stri-sangi'----eka asadhu, 'krsnabhakta' ara(Cc. Madhya 22.87)A

Vaisnava, a devotee, should simply discard intimate association

withnondevotees. In his Upadesamrta, Srila Rupa Gosvami has described

thesymptoms of intimate relationships in this way:dadati pratigrhnatiguhyam

akhyati prcchatibhunkte bhojayate caivasad-vidham priti-laksanamThe words

bhunkte bhojayate indicate that one should eat with devotees. One should

carefully avoid eating food offered by nondevotees. Indeed, a devotee should be

very strict in not accepting food from a nondevotee, especially food prepared in

restaurants or hotels or on airplanes. SRILA NITYANANDA PRABHU'S REFERENCE IN

THIS CONNECTION IS MEANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT ONE SHOULD AVOID EATING WITH

MAYAVADIS AND COVERT MAYAVADIS LIKE THE SAHAJIYA VAISNAVAS, WHO ARE MATERIALLY

AFFECTED.Note: here Srila Prabhupada uses the two contrasts one is the ADVANCED

DEVOTEE (PARAMAHAMSA) and the other is DEBAUCHEE (sahajiya). Interesting also

here you will also find the definition of Uttama adhikari also he is NOT

DEVIATED.Madhya 22.153 ** AN ADVANCED DEVOTEE SITUATED ON THE PLATFORM OF

SPONTANEITY IS ALREADY VERY EXPERT IN SASTRIC INSTRUCTION, LOGIC AND ARGUMENT.

WHEN HE COMES TO THE POINT OF ETERNAL LOVE FOR KRSNA, NO ONE CAN DEVIATE HIM

FROM THAT POSITION, NEITHER BY ARGUMENT NOR BY SASTRIC EVIDENCE. AN ADVANCED

DEVOTEE HAS REALIZED HIS ETERNAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, AND CONSEQUENTLY

HE DOES NOT ACCEPT THE LOGIC AND ARGUMENTS OF OTHERS.** SUCH AN ADVANCED

DEVOTEE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SAHAJIYAS, WHO MANUFACTURE THEIR OWN WAY AND

COMMIT SINS BY INDULGING IN ILLICIT SEX, INTOXICATION AND GAMBLING, IF NOT

MEAT-EATING. SOMETIMES THE SAHAJIYAS IMITATE ADVANCED DEVOTEES AND LIVE IN

THEIR OWN WHIMSICAL WAY, AVOIDING THE PRINCIPLES SET DOWN IN THE REVEALED

SCRIPTURES. UNLESS ONE FOLLOWS THE SIX GOSVAMIS-SRIRUPA, SANATANA, RAGHUNATHA

BHATTA, SRI JIVA, GOPALA BHATTA AND RAGHUNATHA DASA-ONE CANNOT BE A BONA FIDE

SPONTANEOUS LOVER OF KRSNA. In this connection, Srila Narottama dasa Thakura

says: rupa-raghunatha-pade haibe akuti kabe hama bujhaba se yugala piriti. The

sahajiyas' understanding of the love affairs between Radha and Krsna is not

bona fide because they do not follow the principles laid down by the six

Gosvamis. THEIR ILLICIT CONNECTION AND THEIR IMITATION OF THE DRESS OF RUPA

GOSVAMI AS WELL AS THEIR AVOIDANCE OF THE PRESCRIBED METHODS OF REVEALED

SCRIPTURES WILL LEAD THEM TO THE LOWEST REGIONS OF HELL. THESE IMITATIVE

SAHAJIYAS ARE CHEATED AND UNFORTUNATE. THEY ARE NOT EQUAL TO ADVANCED DEVOTEES

(PARAMAHAMSAS). DEBAUCHEES AND PARAMAHAMSAS ARE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL.

Note: Uttama-adhikari is not deviated this is why he is Bona fide. Also a

warning against sahajiya so-called spiritual master business men seeking

customers.Bg 4.42A BONA FIDE spiritual master is IN THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION

FROM TIMEETERNAL, and he DOES NOT DEVIATE AT ALL FROM THE INSTRUCTIONS OF

THESUPREME LORD AS THEY WERE IMPARTED MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO TO THE SUN-GOD,

FROM WHOM THE INSTRUCTIONS OF BHAGAVAD-GITA HAVE COME DOWN TO THE EARTHLY

KINGDOM. One should, therefore, follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is

expressed in the Gita itself AND BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER

PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT WHO DEVIATE OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH. The Lord is

definitely the supreme person, and His activities are transcendental. One who

understands this is a liberated person from the very beginning of his study of

the Gita.Note: as above Madhya 22.153 now compare to the below to the

defination of Uttama adhikari. ** AN ADVANCED DEVOTEE SITUATED ON THE PLATFORM

OF SPONTANEITY IS ALREADY VERY EXPERT IN SASTRIC INSTRUCTION, LOGIC AND

ARGUMENT. WHEN HE COMES TO THE POINT OF ETERNAL LOVE FOR KRSNA, NO ONE CAN

DEVIATE HIM FROM THAT POSITION, NEITHER BY ARGUMENT NOR BY SASTRIC EVIDENCE. AN

ADVANCED DEVOTEE HAS REALIZED HIS ETERNAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, AND

CONSEQUENTLY HE DOES NOT ACCEPT THE LOGIC AND ARGUMENTS OF OTHERS.**Madhya

16.74 sastra-yuktye sunipuna, drdha-sraddha yanra'uttama-adhikari' se taraye

samsara"If one is EXPERT IN VEDIC LITERATURE AND HAS FULL FAITH IN THE

SUPREMELORD, then he is an uttama-adhikari, a first-class Vaisnava, a

topmostVaisnava who can deliver the whole world and turn everyone to

Krsnaconsciousness." (Cc. Madhya 22.65) With great love and affection,

themaha-bhagavata observes the Supreme Personality of Godhead,

devotionalservice and the devotee. He observes nothing beyond Krsna,

Krsnaconsciousness and Krsna's devotees. The maha-bhagavata knows that everyone

is engaged in the Lord's service in different ways. He therefore descends to the

middle platform to elevate everyone to the Krsna conscious position.Note: if

anyone can AT ALL convince these sahajiyas to give-up theirnonsense so-called

spiritual master business ----that one person isSrila Prabhupada ---that is

also**IF** THEY want to hear and heed his adviceotherwise they are doomed to

their destiny.Note: there are astounding parallels in the psychological

thinking of the GBC now. They also think the "senior partner" Srila Prabhupada

is dead. Hence, the Spiritual Master Business.741004SB.MAY Just like one of our

Godbrothers, he's thinking that "THIS INSTITUTIONWAS STARTED BY ME AND

BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI AS PARTNERS. NOW THE SENIOR PARTNER IS DEAD.

Therefore I am the sole proprietor. Who are these Godbrothers? Let them go

away." So this is maya, the same maya Dhrtarastra was thinking. And his

brother-in-law, Sakuni, was very expert in conspiracy. So he was advising him,

"Yes, you are the proprietor.Srila Prabhupada Ki Jai!Hare Krishna Hare Krishna

Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...