Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 SRILA PRABHUPADA IS HIS DIVINE GRACE67-01-30: BrahmanandaOne thing you may note also as a matter of etiquette. THE SPIRITUALMASTER IS ADDRESSED AS HIS DIVINE GRACE, a Godbrother is addressed as His Grace, and any Sannyasin is addressed as HIS HOLINESS.HIS DIVINE GRACE IS ALWAYS CONSULTING KRSNA760714iv.ny Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be incharge of a particular temple does Krsna tell you that this person should be in charge.Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.Prabhupada: YES, BECAUSE A DEVOTEE ALWAYS CONSULTS KRSNA AND HE GIVESORDER.Interviewer: IT'S A MORE DIRECT COMMUNICATION.Prabhupada: YES. AND HE GIVES ORDER.Ramesvara: Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Krsna. So if I have some...Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Krsna as well.Ramesvara: Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Krsna has told me.Prabhupada: NO, NOT NECESSARILY, KRSNA WILL TELL DIRECTLY. A DEVOTEE ALWAYS CONSULTS KRSNA AND KRSNA TELLS HIM, "DO LIKE THIS." NOT FIGURATIVELY.Interviewer: Does that apply then to other kinds of decisions and otherkinds of activities as well?Prabhupada: EVERYTHING. BECAUSE A DEVOTEE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUTCONSULTING KRSNA.HIS DIVINE GRACE SPEAKS AS KRSNA SPEAKSAntya 5.71 One is forbidden to accept the guru, or spiritual master, as an ordinary human being (gurusu nara-matih). When Ramananda Raya spoke to Pradyumna Misra, Pradyumna Misra could understand that Ramananda Raya was not an ordinary human being. A spiritually advanced person who acts with authority, as the spiritual master, speaks as the Supreme Personality of Godhead DICTATES FROM WITHIN. Thus it is not he that is personally speaking. WHEN A PURE DEVOTEE OR SPIRITUAL MASTER SPEAKS, WHAT HE SAYS SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS HAVING BEEN DIRECTLY SPOKEN BY THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD IN THE PARAMPARA SYSTEM.DIFFERENCE IS SRILA PRABHUPADA SPEAKS WHAT KRSNA SPEAKS AND SO-CALLED GURUS HAVE TO JOG THE BRAIN TO GIVE ANSWERS.760628bj.nv Prabhupada: So-called gurus, they are so-called gurus. They are not gurus. That is already explained. If one does not speak what Krsna speaks, he is not guru. If you accept so-called guru, that is your misfortune. What can be done?Pusta Krsna: Some of them will say some things that Krsna says, but they'll take from other places also. What is the position of such persons?Prabhupada: He's MOST DANGEROUS. He's MOST DANGEROUS. He is OPPORTUNIST. HE'S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER, SOMETHING HERE... ACCORDING TO THE CUSTOMER HE IS GIVING SOMETHING, AS THE CUSTOMERS WILL BE PLEASED. SO HE IS NOT GURU. He's a servant. He wants to serve the so-called disciples so that he may be satisfied and pay him something. He's servant. He's not guru. Guru is the master. You cannot disobey guru. But if you become a servant, you want to please the disciple by flattering him to get his money, then you are not guru, you are servant. Just like a servant pleases the master. He's notguru. He's servant. So our position should be servant, yes, but servant of the Supreme. So guru means heavy. You cannot utilize him for satisfying your whims. That is not guru.JUST A FEW PLACES WHERE RITVIKS IN VEDIC SOCIETY PERFORMED CEREMONIES. SO CALLED GURUS PERFORM INITIATION CEREMONIES TODAY ALSO-- ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE CALLED RITVIKS. ALTHOUGH THEY CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH KRSNA THEY PREFER TO BE CALLED DIKSA GURUS.SB 9.1.15 adhvaryuna--by the rtvik priest; SB 4.5.7 rtvijah--the priests;SB 4.5.18 rtvijah--the priestsSB 4.6.52 rtvijam--of the priests;SB 4.7.16 rtvik--the priests;SB 4.7.27 rtvijah--the priests;SB 4.7.45 rtvijah--the priests;SB 4.7.56 rtvigbhih--with the priests;SB 4.13.26 rtvijah--the priests; SRILA PRABHUPADA GIVES A PERFECT PLAN (KEEPING THE ACARYA AT THE CENTRE): THEYPREFER TO BE IMMEDIATELY HIS DIVINE GRACES-----WITHOUT COMMUNICATION WITHKRSNA! SRILA PRABHUPADA'S PLAN IS TOPSY-TURVIED AND THE REST IS HISTORY.Letter to: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents--Vrindaban9 July, 1977To All G.B.C., and Temple PresidentsDear Maharajas and Prabhus,Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all ofthe GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik--representative of the acarya, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:His Holiness Kirtanananda SwamiHis Holiness Satsvarupa dasa GosvamiHis Holiness Jayapataka SwamiHis Holiness Tamala Krsna GosvamiHis Holiness Hrdayananda GosvamiHis Holiness Bhavananda GosvamiHis Holiness Hamsaduta SwamiHis Holiness Ramesvara SwamiHis Holiness Harikesa SwamiHis Grace Bhagavan dasa AdhikariHis Grace Jayatirtha dasa AdhikariIn the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupadarecommending a particular devotee's initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee AS AN INITIATED DISCIPLE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD, THE ABOVE ELEVEN SENIOR DEVOTEES ACTING AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's "Initiated Disciples" book. Hoping this finds you all well.Your servant,Approved: Tamala Krsna GosvamiA.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Secretary to Srila Prabhupada__________________ONLY ONE QUESTION---If they call themselves Divine Graces then why their words are not accepted by ALL SECTIONS of society just like Srila Prabhupada? If it is a fact that Krsna speaks through them than ALL of us would be QUOTING them just like we quote Srila Prabhupada because the words emanating from his lips come from Krsna--is it not?Srila Prabhupada is QUOTED because: he is ACCEPTED as authority. ALL GLORIES TO OUR BONAFIDE JAGAD DIKSA AND SIKSA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE/HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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