[world-vedic] Digest Number 87

September 16, 2000

>[world-vedic] Digest Number 87

>16 Sep 2000 07:57:09 -0000

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>There are 7 messages in this issue.

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>Topics in this digest:

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> 1. (THE SPIRITUAL MASTER) EITHER HE IS ASSISTANT TO THE GOPIS

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> 2. **SCIENCE OF KRISHNA**

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> 3. THE PREDICTION

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> 4. VARNASRAMA

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> 5. SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING THIS ORDER OF

>GURU MAHARAJA

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

> 6. The plums tasted sweet . . .

> Ronald Landry <webhawks

> 7. Towards a hindu nation - a communist's point of view

> k.kidambi

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> Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:03:49 +0100

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

>(THE SPIRITUAL MASTER) EITHER HE IS ASSISTANT TO THE GOPIS

>

>(THE SPIRITUAL MASTER) EITHER HE IS ASSISTANT TO THE GOPIS OR ASSISTANT TO

>THE COWHERDS BOYS, HE IS ON THE LEVEL OF KRISHNA.

>

>The spiritual master is NOT elected by 2/3 majority votes (by arrangement

>of concocted version of a SPLICED tape) .

>

>69-09-26.letter Jayapataka

>Regarding your question about the verse in the prayers to the Spiritual

>Master, the Spiritual Master is one of the associates of Krishna. The

>prayers offered by Visvanatha Cakravarti to his Spiritual Master have a

>special significance. His Spiritual Master was one of the assistant gopis,

>so the prayer was offered like that. ON THE WHOLE, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS

>AN AGENT OF KRISHNA. BUT EITHER HE IS ASSISTANT TO THE GOPIS OR ASSISTANT

>TO THE COWHERDS BOYS, HE IS ON THE LEVEL OF KRISHNA. THAT IS THE VERDICT OF

>ALL SCRIPTURES. KRISHNA IS WORSHIPABLE GOD AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS

>WORSHIPPER GOD. THE EXACT WORDS ARE SEBYA (WORSHIPABLE) AND SEBAK

>(WORSHIPPER).

>

>Note: This is the genius of Srila Prabhupada that he has arranged for us to

>worship HIM the bonafide acarya early in the morning. He knew the lust of

>others who wanted to be worshiped as so-called spiritual masters.

>

>nikunja-yuno rati-keli-siddhyai

>ya yalibhir yuktir apeksaniya

>tatrati-daksyad ati-vallabhasya

>vande guroh sri-caranaravindam

>

>Its not a wonder therefore he specfically mentions this in Caitanya

>Caritamrta:

>Ch24 text 330

>When one has attained the topmost position of mahä-bhägavata, he is to be

>accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of

>Godhead. ONLY such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru.

>

>Note how carefully Srila Prabhupada gives this instructions of worshiping

>the ACARYA against business men spiritual masters.

>Isopanisad 12

>The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from

>material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of

>material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as

>religious principles. By a false display of religious sentiments, they

>present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of

>immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees

>of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the

>authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic

>succession. THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST

>WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--and Krsna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam

>parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the

>disciplic succession." Instead, to mislead the people in general they

>themselves become so-called acaryas, but they do not even follow

>theprinciples of the acaryas.

>These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because

>there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the

>state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly

>declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious

>propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg.

>16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE

>HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE

>COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY

>FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.

>

>Note: they do NOT recognise the superior unique position of Srila

>Prabhupada

>(acarya gives diksa to madhyam adhikari see antya lila 4.192-194) therefore

>competition envy of Srila Prabhupada leads to splicing tapes and concoction

>of 2/3 majority voted "guru" BUSINESS FRANCHISE club.

>Bg 16.4

>Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance--these

>qualities belong to those of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha.

>Bg 16.4 P

>In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The demoniac want to

>make a show of religion and advancement in spiritual science, although they

>do not follow the principles. They are always arrogant and proud

>inpossessing some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE TO BE

>WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT

>COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not

>gently. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE.

>THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO

>NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY. These demoniac qualities are taken on by them

>from the beginning of their bodies in the wombs of their mothers, and as

>they grow they manifest all these inauspicious qualities.

>

>Jackals who imitate Srila Prabhupada's unique position of being worshiped

>as acarya (as good as God) who want their photos put on alter to be

>worshipped MUST be exposed---- Srila Prabhupada's order.

>730503mw.la

>So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in

>it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and

>all the animals said, "What is this animal? What is the animal? What is

>that animal? Oh?" All, even lion became surprised. "We have not seen this."

>"So who are you, sir?I am sent by God to rule over you.Oh?" So they

>began to worship him as God, as leader. Then one day other jackals, they

>were crying, "Wa, wa," but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry,

>the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to "Wa, wa." Oh, then, they, oh,

>this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na basate. That these rascals are

>jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that "Here is a

>jackal." SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS.

>SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT

>ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING.

>

>69-07-11 Letter: Jayapataka

>This defying means to disconnect the relationship with the Spiritual

>Master. AND ANYONE WHO DEFIES AND THEREFORE DISCONNECTS THE RELATIONSHIP

>WITH THE SPIRITUAL MASTER CAN HARDLY EXPECT THE ASSISTANCE OF THE SPIRITUAL

>MASTER LIFE AFTER LIFE. I hope this will clear up this question

>sufficiently for you.

>

>ONLY uttama-adhikari actually delivers.

>SB 2.8.7

>Thus one who is not well versed in the authorized scriptures and not able

>to answer all such relevant inquiries should not pose as a

>

>spiritual master for the matter of material gain. IT IS ILLEGAL TO BECOME A

>SPIRITUAL MASTER IF ONE IS UNABLE TO DELIVER THE DISCIPLE.

>

>Madhya 16.74

>sastra-yuktye sunipuna, drdha-sraddha yanra

>'uttama-adhikari' se taraye samsara

>"If one is expert in Vedic literature and has full faith in the Supreme

>Lord, then he is AN UTTAMA-ADHIKARI, A FIRST-CLASS VAISNAVA, A TOPMOST

>VAISNAVA WHO CAN DELIVER THE WHOLE WORLD AND TURN EVERYONE TO KRSNA

>CONSCIOUSNESS." (Cc. Madhya 22.65)

>

>Srila Prabhupada distributed the holy name (in his books) throughout the

>world this is the potency of Uttama-adhikari. HE is mentioned in this

>paragraph here---the ACARYA who delivers.

>Madhya 25.9

>"In Dvapara-yuga, devotees of Lord Visnu and Krsna rendered devotional

>service according to the principles of pancaratrika. In this Age of Kali,

>the Supreme Personality of Godhead is worshiped simply by the chanting of

>His holy names.» Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura then comments:

>"WITHOUT BEING EMPOWERED BY THE DIRECT POTENCY OF LORD KRSNA TO FULFILL HIS

>DESIRE AND WITHOUT BEING SPECIFICALLY FAVORED BY THE LORD, NO HUMAN BEING

>CAN BECOME THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE WHOLE WORLD. He certainly cannot

>succeed by mental concoction, which is not meant for devotees or religious

>people. ONLY AN EMPOWERED PERSONALITY CAN DISTRIBUTE THE HOLY NAME OF THE

>LORD AND ENJOIN ALL FALLEN SOULS TO WORSHIP KRSNA. BY DISTRIBUTING THE HOLY

>NAME OF THE LORD, HE CLEANSES THE HEARTS OF THE MOST FALLEN PEOPLE;

>THEREFORE HE EXTINGUISHES THE BLAZING FIRE OF THE MATERIAL WORLD. NOT ONLY

>THAT, HE BROADCASTS THE SHINING BRIGHTNESS OF KRSNA'S EFFULGENCE THROUGHOUT

>THE WORLD. SUCH AN ACARYA, OR SPIRITUAL MASTER, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

>NONDIFFERENT FROM KRSNA-THAT IS, HE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE INCARNATION OF

>LORD KRSNA'S POTENCY. Such a personality is krsnalingita-vigraha-that is,

>he is always embraced by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. Such a

>person is above the considerations of the varnasrama institution. HE IS THE

>GURU OR SPIRITUAL MASTER FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD, A DEVOTEE ON THE TOPMOST

>PLATFORM, THE MAHA-BHAGAVATA STAGE, AND A PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA, A SPIRITUAL

>FORM ONLY FIT TO BE ADDRESSED AS PARAMAHAMSA OR THAKURA."

>

>Uttama-adhikari not so cheap.

>NoD 17 Ecstatic Love

>By the process of executing regulated devotional service, one is

>actually elevated onto THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE, BEYOND THE MATERIAL MODES

>OF NATURE. At that time one's heart becomes illuminated like the sun. The

>sun is far above the planetary systems, and there is no possibility of its

>being covered by any kind of cloud; similarly, when a devotee is purified

>like the sun, from his pure heart there is a diffusion of ecstatic love

>which is more glorious than the sunshine. Only at that time is the

>attachment to Krsna perfect. SPONTANEOUSLY, THE DEVOTEE BECOMES EAGER TO

>SERVE THE LORD IN HIS ECSTATIC LOVE. AT THIS STAGE THE DEVOTEE IS ON THE

>PLATFORM OF UTTAMA-ADHIKARI, PERFECT DEVOTION. SUCH A DEVOTEE HAS NO

>AGITATION FROM MATERIAL AFFECTIONS and is interested only in the service of

>Radha and Krsna.

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> Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:58:14 +0100

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

>**SCIENCE OF KRISHNA**

>

> **SCIENCE OF KRISHNA**

>

>Srila Prabhupada diksa guru(paramahamsa)well conversant in science of Krsna

>Accept no inferior substitute.

>

>SB 7.13.46

>As quoted in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 8.128), Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu

>said:

>kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya

>yei krsna-tattva-vetta sei 'guru' haya

>A guru, or spiritual master, can be anyone who is well conversant with the

>science of Krsna. Therefore although Prahlada Maharaja was a grhastha

>ruling over the demons, he was a **paramahamsa**, the best of human beings,

>and **thus he is our guru**.

>

>Note: science means hypothesis, theory then **practical demonstration**.

>The 2/3 majority voted IS-CON "gurus" lack practical demonstration.

>Therefore they do not know the **complete science** of Krishna.

>We know for a fact that Srila Prabhupada(paramahamsa)is the pure devotee

>who has Krishna in his heart and when a devotee chants offenselessly Srila

>Prabhupada transmits Krishna into the Madhyama-adhikaris heart. (see CC

>antya 4.192-4.194 madhyama-adhikari relishes loving mellows with Krishna).

>This is diksa.

>

>Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsinah(seen Krsna by direct realization).

>Therefore he is able to **give** the holy name. The holy name is (pure

>devotee) Srila Prabhupada's property to give.

>2/3 majority votes "guru" can perform ceremony of first and second

>initiations on belhaf of Srila Prabhupada(they are doing this even

>now----but they want to be worshipped as God which is unacceptable!)

>Only(Srila Prabhupada as acarya) acarya is worshipped as good as God.

>SB 5.15.4

>The word anusasmara is very significant. God consciousness is not imaginary

>or concocted. The devotee who is pure and advanced realizes God as He is.

>Maharaja Pratiha did so, and due to his **direct realization of Lord

>Visnu**, he propagated self-realization and became a preacher. A real

>preacher cannot be bogus; he must first of all realize Lord Visnu as He is.

>As confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (4.34), upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas

>tattva-darsinah: "one who has seen the truth can impart knowledge." The

>word tattva-darsi refers to one who has** perfectly realized** the Supreme

>personality of Godhead. Such a person can become a guru and propound

>Vaisnava philosophy all over the world.

>

> 2/3 majority votes "guru" are C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G!. Infact they are also

>being cheated because they are losing the opportunity to become fully Krsna

>Consciousness.

>SB 8.6.9

>The Vedic mantras say: yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam bhavati. When

>the devotee **sees** the Supreme Personality of Godhead by his meditation,

>or when he **sees** the Lord personally, face to face, he becomes aware of

>everything within this universe. Indeed, nothing is unknown to him.

>Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who

>has** seen** the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhagavad-gita (4.34)

>therefore advises:

>tad viddhi pranipatena

>pariprasnena sevaya

>upadeksyanti te jnanam

>jnaninas tattva-darsinah

>"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire

>from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized

>**soul** can impart knowledge unto you because **he** has seen the truth."

>Lord Brahma is one of these self-realized authorities (svayambhur naradah

>sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh). One must therefore accept the disciplic

>succession from Lord Brahma, and then one can understand the Supreme

>Personality of Godhead **in fullness**. Here the word visva-murtau

>indicates that everything exists in the form of the Supreme Personality of

>Godhead. One who is able to worship Him can see everything in Him and see

>Him in everything.

>

>Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsina therefore he is able to deliver Krsna

>---it is Srila Prabhupada that has realized **the science** of Krsna

>perfectly!

>SB 10.3.14

>"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire

>from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul

>can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth." Vasudeva

>begot the Supreme Personality of Godhead, yet he was in full knowledge of

>how the Supreme Lord appears and disappears. He was therefore tattva-darsi,

>a seer of the truth, **because he personally saw** how the Supreme Absolute

>Truth appeared as his son.

>

>Pratyaksvagamam means direct perception----Krsna is directly

>experienced---this is complete science---demonstration!

>

>Srila Prabhupada is this personality who is able to give the Holy name

>because he is well conversant with the science. Srila Prabhupada gives

>Diksa to the madhyama-adhikari.

>Bg 9.2

>raja-vidya raja-guhyam

>pavitram idam uttamam

>pratyaksavagamam dharmyam

>su-sukham kartum avyayam

>This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It

>is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self

>by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it

>is joyfully performed.

>

>Joyfully performed----when Srila Prabhupada gives diksa to the

>madhyama-adhikari because he has pleased Srila Prabhupada by offensless

>chanting, Krishna's pastimes are also transmitted from

>

>Srila Prabhupada's heart to Madhyam-adhikaris heart. This is Srila

>Prabhupada giving actual diksa. 2/3 majority votes "gurus" cannot do this!

>And because they want to cheat they are being cheated themselves with the

>what Srila Prabhupada has so vividly described in Isopanisad 12 after

>conducting their **spiritual master business** they are going to the lowest

>regions of hell.

>Bg 9.2

>The great devotees relished the taste of unceasing devotional service of

>the Lord, hearing, chanting, etc., and by developing the same taste,

>Narada wanted also to hear and chant the glories of the Lord. Thus by

>associating with the sages, he developed a great desire for devotional

>service. Therefore, he quotes from the Vedanta-sutra (prakasas ca karmany

>abhyasat): if one is engaged simply in the acts of devotional service,

>**everything is revealed to him automatically**, and he can understand.

>This is called **pratyaksa**, **directly perceived**.

>

>The opportunity to serve as honest ritvik or defiant cheating pretender 2/3

>majority votes "guru": this is the only choice.

>Diksa-guru( Srila Prabhupada) well conversant with Krishna science

>transmits diksa to madhyama-adhikari.

>Madhya 8.128

>Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura also states that although one is

>situated as a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacari, vanaprastha,

>grhastha or sannyasi, if he is conversant in the science of Krsna he can

>become a spiritual master as vartma-pradarsaka-guru, diksa-guru or

>siksa-guru. The spiritual master who first gives information about

>spiritual life is called the vartma-pradarsaka-guru, the spiritual master

>who initiates according to the regulations of the sastras is called the

>diksa-guru, and the spiritual master who gives instructions for elevation

>is called the siksa-guru. Factually** the qualifications** of a spiritual

>master **depend on his knowledge of the science of Krsna**.

>

>If the 2/3 majority votes "gurus" were "His Divine Graces" (Krishna speaks

>through them) Why nobody except some sentimental followers are quoting

>them. This means they are not accepted as authority. Everybody QUOTES Srila

>Prabhupada because everybody knows Krishna speaks through him----this is

>why he is **accepted as authority**.

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> Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:46:28 +0100

> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

>THE PREDICTION

>

>THE PREDICTION

>

>750302BA.ATL Lectures

>

> So perhaps my Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura,

>attempted to fulfill the desire of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. And sometimes

>in the year 1918, he was brahmacari, and Bhaktivinoda Thakura, his material

>father, he wanted... Actually, he wanted, Bhaktivinoda Thakura... Of

>course, everyone wanted. But he wrote one small book, Teachings of Lord

>Caitanya, Teachings and Precepts of Lord Caitanya, in 1896. And he

>presented that book to the McGill University in Canada. And he very much

>desired that the foreigners, especially Americans, would join this

>movement. That was his desire in 1896. And then, in 1918, my Guru Maharaja

>started with this mission one institution known as Gaudiya Math. Perhaps

>some of you know the name, Gaudiya Math. And he was trying to spread this

>message of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and by chance OR BY PREDICTION, AS YOU

>THINK, I WAS TAKEN TO BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI THAKURA BY ONE OF MY

>FRIENDS. I did not want to go there, but he forcibly took me there. Yes.

>And he ordered me that "You preach the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu in

>English language. This is very much essential." So on the first meeting he

>told me like that. That was my first meeting with him. So at that time I

>was in favor of Gandhi's movement. So I said that "We are not

>independent--subjugated. Who will hear about our message?" So

>Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati Thakura refuted my argument. I was very much

>pleased. I had so many talks. But I was very much pleased to be defeated,

>that "This so-called nationalism or any ism, they are all temporary. Real

>need is the self-realization."

>

>750323AR.MAY Lectures

>

>Jayapataka: ...you Srila Prabhupada. Only by your mercy you have brought us

>to this Krsna consciousness movement.

>

>Prabhupada: Yes. I am simply messenger. Mercy is of Bhaktivinoda Thakura

>and Srila Prabhupada. BEFORE YOUR COMING THEY PREDICTED, THAT "SOMEBODY

>WILL BRING." MAYBE THAT SOMEBODY I AM. (CHUCKLES) BHAKTIVINODA THAKURA

>PREDICTED. So anyway, Krsna has given us nice place. Stay here. So you

>producing food grains?

>

>Note: here Srila Prabhupada uses the word "INDIVIDUALLY"--this is a fact he

>INDIVIDUALLY preached this cult ALL OVER THE WORLD(ACARYA OF

>WORLD--JAGAD-GURU means siksa and diksa BOTH).

>

>71-02-23. Letter: Jayapataka

>

> So far as cooperating with my Godbrothers is concerned, that is not

>very urgent business. So far until now my Godbrothers have regularly not

>cooperated with me and by the grace of my Spiritual Master, things are

>still going ahead. So cooperation or non-cooperation, IT IS THE DESIRE OF

>BHAKTIVINODE THAKURA TO PREACH THE CAITANYA CULT ALL OVER THE WORLD AND IN

>1875 HE PREDICTED THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME VERY SOON WHO WOULD INDIVIDUALLY

>PREACH THIS CULT ALL OVER THE WORLD. So if his benediction is there and my

>Guru Maharaja's blessings are there, we can go ahead without any impediment

>but all of us must be very sincere and serious. We have been a little

>inflicted by public criticism that we Godbrothers do not work together. My

>Guru Maharaja wanted also us to work together but some how or other it

>hasn't happened up until now. So your program of cooperating with Madhava

>Maharaja is not so important. Best thing is that all we Godbrothers work

>together. Then the criticism will stop, otherwise even we join together,

>criticism will go on. So this has been going on for the last 24 years, but

>everyone of us is doing his best keeping Lord Caitanya in the center. We

>should be satisfied so much.

>

>Note: although envious persons may not accept Srila Prabhupada's unique

>position here Srila Prabhupada has actually explained to us that he as THE

>TRUE ACARYA, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD is the ONE SINGULAR

>person who is the ACARYA OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. It is Srila Prabhupada who is

>the SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE VARNAS (BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA, VAISYA AND

>SUDRA) AND ALL THE ASRAMAS (BRAHMACARYA, GRHASTHA, VANAPRASTHA AND

>SANNYASA). Srila Prabhupada THE TRUE ACARYA PRESENTS KRSNA TO EVERYONE BY

>PREACHING THE HOLY NAME OF THE LORD THROUGHOUT THE WORLD(In Srila

>Prabhupada's books he gives EVERYONE the Holy name).

>

>Antya 7.12

>

>"You have spread the sankirtana movement of Krsna consciousness. Therefore

>it is evident that You have been empowered by Lord Krsna. There is no

>question about it.

>

>PURPORT

>

>Antya 7.12

>

>Sri Madhvacarya has brought our attention to this quotation from the

>Narayana-samhita:

>

> dvapariyair janair visnuh

>

> pancaratrais tu kevalaih

>

> kalau tu nama-matrena

>

> pujyate bhagavan harih

>

> "in the Dvapara-yuga one could satisfy Krsna or Visnu only by

>worshiping opulently according to the pancaratriki system, but in the age

>of Kali one can satisfy and worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead Hari

>simply by chanting His holy name." SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI THAKURA

>EXPLAINS THAT UNLESS ONE IS DIRECTLY EMPOWERED BY THE CAUSELESS MERCY OF

>KRSNA, ONE CANNOT BECOME THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD

>(JAGAD-GURU). One cannot become an acarya simply by mental speculation. THE

>TRUE ACARYA PRESENTS KRSNA TO EVERYONE BY PREACHING THE HOLY NAME OF THE

>LORD THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. Thus the conditioned souls, purified by chanting

>the holy name, are LIBERATED from the blazing fire of material existence.

>In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the waxing

>moon in the sky. THE TRUE ACARYA, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD,

>MUST BE CONSIDERED AN INCARNATION OF KRSNA'S MERCY. INDEED, HE IS

>PERSONALLY EMBRACING KRSNA. HE IS THEREFORE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE

>VARNAS (BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA, VAISYA AND SUDRA) AND ALL THE ASRAMAS

>(BRAHMACARYA, GRHASTHA, VANAPRASTHA AND SANNYASA). Since he is understood

>to be the most advanced devotee, he is called paramahamsa-thakura. Thakura

>is a title of honor offered to the paramahamsa. Therefore one who acts as

>an acarya, directly presenting Lord Krsna by spreading His name and fame,

>IS ALSO TO BE CALLED PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA.

>

>Note: "The ACARYA will pick up" this indicates as Srila Prabhupada has

>indicated to us "this books will do everything"(the spiritual master and

>his instructions are non-different).

>

>741021SB.MAY Lectures

>

> Ata saba hari ara varnasrama-dharma, niskincana haya laya krsnaika

>sarana.(?) This is the... Varnasrama-dharma, that is material. Varnasrama

>is planned for material life in a systematic way so that, in due course of

>time, one may give up the family relationship and take sannyasa and

>completely devote for Krsna's service. This is the plan of

>varnasrama-dharma. Varnasrama-dharma is not meant for planning something,

>and you remain in the family. No. The Varnasrama... Varna means brahmana,

>ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah.

>Guna, not everyone is qualified in the same way. Therefore you... THE

>ACARYA WILL PICK UP THAT "THEY ARE MEANT FOR BECOMING BRAHMANAS. THEY ARE

>MEANT FOR KSATRIYAS." OR FOR COMING FROM KSATRIYA FAMILY, OR THE BRAHMANA

>FAMILY... SO FIRST OF ALL, THESE VARNAS, THEN ASRAMA. The brahmana, one who

>is qualified as a brahmana, he has to observe the four asramas, a brahmana:

>the brahmacari-asrama, the grhastha-asrama, the vanaprastha-asrama and

>sannyasa-asrama. The ksatriya, they'll have to observe three asramas:

>brahmacari, grhastha and vanaprastha. And the vaisyas, two asramas:

>brahmacari and grhastha. And sudra, only one asrama, only grhastha. A sudra

>is never offered sannyasa. A... Only the brahmana is offered.

>

>74-04-28. Letter: Rupanuga

>

> You are right about Sridhara Maharaja's genuineness. But in my opinion

>he is the best of the lot. He is my old friend, at least he executes the

>regulative principles of devotional service. I do not wish to discuss about

>activities of my Godbrothers but it is a fact they have no life for

>preaching work. All are satisfied with a place for residence in the name of

>a temple, they engage disciples to get foodstuff by transcendental devices

>and eat and sleep. They have no idea or brain how to broacast the cult of

>Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. My Guru Maharaja used to lament many times for

>this reason and he thought if one man at least had understood the principle

>of preaching then his mission would achieve success. In the latter days of

>my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. Actually, he left this world

>earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live for more years. Still he

>requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the

>cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He never recommended anyone to be acarya of

>the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this

>order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead

>unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could

>have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have

>mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many

>things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be

>nominated amongst the governing body. HE SAID OPENLY YOU MAKE A GBC AND

>CONDUCT THE MISSION. SO HIS IDEA WAS AMONGST THE MEMBERS OF GBC WHO WOULD

>COME OUT SUCCESSFUL AND SELF EFFULGENT ACARYA WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY

>SELECTED. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen

>unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The

>result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be

>kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the

>acarya is being changed three times a year. Therefore we may not commit the

>same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is

>qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers

>very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples

>they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them,

>especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but

>somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very

>careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you

>all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to

>harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

>

>760104mw.nel Conversations

>

>Devotee (2): Prabhupada, they said that if Caitanya Mahaprabhu wanted Krsna

>consciousness in the Western countries, why didn't He go there Himself?

>That's what they told us.

>

>Prabhupada: SO HE LEFT THE CREDIT FOR ME. (laughter)

>

>Devotees: Jaya! Haribol!

>

>Prabhupada: He loves His devotee more than Himself.

>

>Harikesa: Why didn't Krsna kill everybody at the Battle of Kuruksetra?

>

>Prabhupada: Yes.

>

>Yasodanandana: (indistinct)

>

>Prabhupada: Krsna, by His simple desire He could kill. (laughter) He said

>therefore, BHAVISYATVAM, prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama, sarvatra

>pracara HAIBE. He is LEAVING THE TASK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.

>

>nama-om-visnu-padaya-krsna-presthya-bhu-tale

>

>srimate-BHAKTIVEDANTA-svamin-iti-namine

>

>namas-te-sarasvate-deve-gaura-vani-pracarine

>

>nirvisesa-suniyavadi-pascatya-DESA-TARINE

>

>I offer my respectful obeisances unto HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C.BHAKTIVEDANTA

>SWAMI PRABHUPADA, who is very dear to Lord Krsna, having taken shelter at

>his lotus feet.

>

>Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of

>Sarasvati Gosvami. YOU ARE KINDLY PREACHING THE MESSAGE OF CAITANYA-DEVA

>AND DELIVERING THE WESTERN COUNTRIES WHICH ARE FILLED WITH IMPERSONALISM

>AND VOIDISM.

>

> Srila Prabhupada DELIVERS! HOW ?he preaches in his books GIVING the holy

>name ONLY UTTAMA ADHIKARI IS QUALIFIED TO DELIVER(BY DEFINITION).

>

> JAI OM VISNU-PADA PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA PARIVRJAKACARYA ASTOTTARA-SAT SRI

>SRIMAD SRILA A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI MAHARAJA PRABHUPADA KI JAI!

>

>HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE

>

>/HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

>

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> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

>VARNASRAMA

>

> THE SOCIETY DIVIDED ACCORDING TO FAITH (VARNASRAMA) WITH THE ACARYA

>SRILA PRABHUPADA AS THE INITIATIOR AT THE CENTRE.

>

>740803SB.VRN

>That is actually fact, actually fact, that if one wants to live

>independently... In Calcutta I have seen. Even poor class vaisyas, and in

>the morning they'll take some dal, bag of dal, and go door to door. Dal is

>required everywhere. So in morning he makes dal business, and in evening he

>takes one canister of kerosene oil. So in the evening everyone will

>require. Still you'll find in India, they... Nobody was seeking for

>employment. A little, whatever he has got, selling some ground nuts or that

>peanuts. Something he's doing. After all, Krsna is giving maintenance to

>everyone. IT IS A MISTAKE TO THINK THAT "THIS MAN IS GIVING ME

>MAINTENANCE." NO. SASTRA SAYS, EKO YO BAHUNAM VIDADHATI KAMAN. IT IS

>CONFIDENCE IN KRSNA, THAT "KRSNA HAS GIVEN ME LIFE, KRSNA HAS SENT ME HERE.

>SO HE'LL GIVE ME MY MAINTENANCE. SO ACCORDING TO MY CAPACITY, LET ME DO

>SOMETHING, AND THROUGH THAT SOURCE, KRSNA'S MAINTENANCE WILL COME." JUST

>LIKE WE ARE MAINTAINING SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS MOVEMENT.

>SO WHAT BUSINESS WE ARE DOING? BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT KRSNA WILL SEND US

>OUR MAINTENANCE. THAT CONFIDENCE REQUIRED. A sudra means he becomes

>disturbed. He becomes distur... "Oh, I have no employment. How shall I eat?

>Where shall I go? Where shall I live?" He has no faith in Krsna. THE

>BRAHMANA HAS GOT FULL FAITH. THE KSATRIYA HAS GOT LITTLE LESS FAITH, THE

>VAISYA, LITTLE LESS FAITH, AND THE SUDRA HAS NO FAITH. THIS IS THE

>DIFFERENCE. SO YOUR QUESTION WAS THAT HOW WE CAN KNOW A SUDRA? THAT BECAUSE

>EVERYONE IS NOW FAITHLESS AND EVERYONE IS SEEKING AFTER EMPLOYMENT.

>Therefore... We may discuss in so many ways. BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BECOME

>SUDRA, THEREFORE THE CAPITALISTS ARE EXPLOITING THEM. If everyone denies to

>be, serve, then these so-called industries will fail. Immediately. That is

>Gandhi's proposal. "Noncooperate with the British government, and it will

>wind up."

>And actually so happened. Because people are now sudras, they depend for

>their bread to others, the others exploit them: "Come here. You work and I

>shall give you bread." They do not believe any more, "O God, give us our

>daily bread." They think that "This, our master give us daily bread." That

>is sudra. SUDRA MEANS ONE WHO IS DEPENDENT ON OTHERS. PARICARYATMAKAM

>KARYAM SUDRA-KARMA SVABHAVA-JAM. THIS IS THE DESCRIPTION, DEFINITION OF

>SUDRA. AND VAISYA: KRSI-GO-RAKSYA-VANIJYAM VAISYA-KARMA SVABHAVA-JAM. THE

>VAISYA IS DOING THE KRSI, AGRICULTURE. WHY HE SHOULD DEPEND ON...? TAKE

>SOME LAND FROM THE GOVERNMENT. YOU PRODUCE YOUR FOOD. WHERE IS THE

>DIFFICULTY? KEEP SOME COWS. YOU GET MILK. VAISYA-KARMA SVABHAVA...

>GO-RAKSYA. IF YOU HAVE GOT EXCESS, THEN MAKE TRADE. WHY YOU SHOULD DEPEND

>ON OTHERS?

>But they do not know. They want that "I shall go at ten o'clock in the

>office, and I shall do nothing. Simply I shall take the pen and make like

>this and take my salary." That's all. Cheating. This is going on. Therefore

>the whole system is polluted. Nobody's doing his duty. Catur-varnyam maya

>srstam guna-karma... According to one's quality, one must work. But nobody

>wants to work. So therefore they are sudras. They are working, but at the

>care of somebody else. Not independently. Now the school, college, the

>teacher is also depending on salary. So they are sudras. So what teaching

>they will give? TEACHING IS THE BUSINESS OF THE BRAHMANA. NO SALARY.

>Formerly, all the brahmanas, they used to have that... It is called tola,

>catuspathi. Catuspathi. Brahmana, he'll sit down anywhere and invite that

>"If you like, you can come and take some teachings from me."

>Note: Srila Prabhupada (our BONAFIDE spiritual master gives the

>ascertainment of our position---see the instructions he has provided)

>SB 5.19.19 A Description of the Island of Jambudvipa

>The people who take birth in this tract of land are divided according tothe

>qualities of material nature--the modes of goodness [sattva-guna], passion

>[rajo-guna], and ignorance [tamo-guna]. Some of them are born as exalted

>personalities, some are ordinary human beings, and some are extremely

>abominable, for in Bharata-varsa one takes birth exactly

>according to one's past karma. IF ONE'S POSITION IS ASCERTAINED BY A BONA

>FIDE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND ONE IS PROPERLY TRAINED TO ENGAGE IN THE SERVICE

>OF LORD VISNU ACCORDING TO THE FOUR SOCIAL DIVISIONS [bRAHMANA, KSATRIYA,

>VAISYA AND SUDRA] AND THE FOUR SPIRITUAL DIVISIONS [bRAHMACARI, GRHASTHA,

>VANAPRASTHA AND SANNYASA], ONE'S LIFE BECOMES PERFECT.

>

>Note: Srila Prabhupada spells out his mission: to institute the varnasrama

>system(all over the world).

>SB 5.19.19

>varnasramacaravata

>purusena parah puman

>visnur aradhyate pantha

>nanyat tat-tosa-karanam

>"The Supreme personality of Godhead, Lord Visnu, is worshiped by the proper

>execution of prescribed duties in the system of varna and asrama. There is

>no other way to satisfy the Lord." In the land of Bharata-varsa, the

>institution of varnasrama-dharma may be easily adopted. At the present

>moment, certain demoniac sections of the population of Bharatavarsa are

>disregarding the system of varnasrama-dharma. Because there is no

>institution to teach people how to become brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas and

>sudras or brahmacaris, grhasthas, vanaprasthas and sannyasis, these demons

>want a classless society. This is resulting in chaotic conditions. In the

>name of secular government, unqualified people are taking the supreme

>governmental posts. No one is being trained to act according to

>theprinciples of varnasrama-dharma, and thus people are becoming

>increasingly degraded and are heading in the direction of animal life. THE

>REAL AIM OF LIFE IS LIBERATION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

>LIBERATION IS BEING DENIED TO PEOPLE IN GENERAL, AND THEREFORE THEIR HUMAN

>LIVES ARE BEING SPOILED. THE KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS MOVEMENT, HOWEVER, IS

>BEINGPROPAGATED ALL OVER THE WORLD TO REESTABLISH THE VARNASRAMA-DHARMA

>SYSTEM AND THUS SAVE HUMAN SOCIETY FROM GLIDING DOWN TO HELLISH LIFE.

>

>Note: here Srila Prabhupada spells out the division according to the modes

>of nature.

>Bg 7.13 P

>By nature living entities have particular types of body and particular

>types of psychic and biological activities accordingly. THERE ARE FOUR

>CLASSES OF MEN FUNCTIONING IN THE THREE MODES OF NATURE. THOSE WHO ARE

>PURELY IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS ARE CALLED BRAHMANAS. THOSE WHO ARE PURELY

>IN THE MODE OF PASSION ARE CALLED KSATRIYAS. THOSE WHO ARE IN THE MODES OF

>BOTH PASSION AND IGNORANCE ARE CALLED VAISYAS. THOSE WHO ARE COMPLETELY IN

>IGNORANCE ARE CALLED SUDRAS. And those who are less than that are animals

>or animal life. However, these designations are not permanent.

>

>750524BG.FIJ

>So in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, karanam guna-sangah asya. As soon as we

>are in the material world, we are under the influence either of these three

>gunas: sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. THOSE WHO ARE PURELY IN

>ASSOCIATION WITH THE MODES OF GOODNESS, SATTVA-GUNA, THEY ARE CONSIDERED AS

>BRAHMANA. AND THOSE WHO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAJO-GUNA, PASSION, THEY

>ARE CALLED KSATRIYAS. AND THOSE WHO ARE ASSOCIATING WITH THE TAMO-GUNA,

>IGNORANCE, THEY ARE CALLED THE SUDRAS. AND THE MIXTURE OF TAMO-GUNA AND

>RAJO-GUNA IS THE POSITION OF THE VAISYA. In this way, there are four

>divisions of men everywhere. CATUR-VARNYAM MAYA SRSTAM

>GUNA-KARMA-VIBHAGASAH. According to the association of particular type of

>modes of nature and working in that way, it makes a division of the human

>society. That is required. For upkeep of the human society in order,

>according to the quality and work there must be division. But that is not

>that division as we are thinking at the present moment in India--a man is

>born in the brahmana family, he is brahmana. No. HE MUST HAVE THE

>BRAHMINICAL QUALIFICATION. That is first consideration. Samo damah satyam

>saucam arjavam titiksa, jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam.

>That is the verdict of the sastra. Not by birth.

>

>Note: Kanistha (NEOPHYTE is QUALIFIED brahmana)

>770214r2.may

>Prabhupada: KANISTHA-ADHIKARI MEANS HE MUST BE A BRAHMANA. THAT IS

>KANISTHA-ADHIKARI. THE SPIRITUAL LIFE, KANISTHA-ADHIKARI, MEANS HE MUST BE

>A QUALIFIED BRAHMANA. THAT IS KANISTHA. WHAT IS ESTEEMED AS VERY HIGH

>POSITION IN THE MATERIAL WORLD, BRAHMANA, THAT IS KANISTHA-ADHIKARI.

>

>arcayam eva haraye

>pujam yah sraddhayehate

>na tad-bhaktesu canyesu

>sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah

>The brahmana means FROM THE MATERIAL STAGE gradually he is elevated to the

>spiritual stage. And BELOW THE BRAHMANA THERE IS NO QUESTION OF VAISNAVA.

>Hari-sauri: No question of?

>Prabhupada: Vaisnavism.

>

>Note: Purpose of Initiation

>710907IN.LON

>So the time is up? No. (break) By initiated process one is elevated to

>the highest position in this material world. Brahmanas' position, in this

>material world, is the highest position. So this is a training to come to

>the brahminical stage. THEN ONE HAS TO SURPASS THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE ALSO.

>THAT IS CALLED PURE GOODNESS. Brahmana is goodness, but there is chance of

>being contaminated with passion and ignorance, because it is material

>world. BUT WHEN (ONE) SURPASSES THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND BECOMES PURE

>VAISNAVA, THEN KRSNA BECOMES REVEALED TO HIM. THEREFORE KRSNA'S NAME IS

>VASUDEVA. PURE STAGE OF LIFE IS CALLED VASUDEVA STAGE. JUST LIKE VASUDEVA

>WAS FATHER OF KRSNA. THAT MEANS WHEN ONE IS SITUATED IN THE VASUDEVA STAGE,

>SUDDHA-SATTVA, PURE GOODNESS, KRSNA IS BORN. KRSNA BORN MEANS KRSNA BECOMES

>VISIBLE, REVEALED. SO THIS INITIATION PROCESS IS GRADUALLY TO RAISE A

>DEVOTEE TO THAT PLATFORM.

>

>At the stage of Bhava revelations begins.

>Adi 7.83 Lord Caitanya in Five Features

>In this verse it is explained that one who chants the Hare Krsna mantra

>develops BHAVA, ECSTASY, WHICH IS THE POINT AT WHICH REVELATION BEGINS.

>

>NoI 5

>One should mentally honor the devotee who chants the holy name of Lord

>Krsna, ONE SHOULD OFFER HUMBLE OBEISANCES TO THE DEVOTEE WHO HAS UNDERGONE

>SPIRITUAL INITIATION [DIKSA] and is engaged in worshiping the Deity, and

>one should associate with and faithfully serve that Pure devotee who is

>advanced in undeviated devotional service and whose heart is completely

>devoid of the propensity to criticize others.

>PURPORT

>

>In order to intelligently apply the sixfold loving reciprocations mentioned

>in the previous verse, one must select proper persons with careful

>discrimination. Srila Rupa Gosvami therefore advises that we should meet

>with the Vaisnavas in an appropriate way, according to their particular

>status. In this verse he tells us how to deal with three types of

>devotees--the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and uttama-adhikari. THE

>KANISTHA-ADHIKARI IS A NEOPHYTE WHO HAS RECEIVED THE HARI-NAMA INITIATION

>FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND IS TRYING TO CHANT THE HOLY NAME OF KRSNA.

>One should respect such a person within his mind as a kanistha-vaisnava. A

>MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL

>MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING

>SERVICE OF THE LORD. The madhyama-adhikari should be considered to be

>situated midway in devotional service. The uttama-adhikari, or highest

>devotee, is one who is very advanced in devotional service. An

>uttama-adhikari is not interested in blaspheming others, his heart is

>completely clean, and he has attained the realized state of unalloyed Krsna

>consciousness. According to Srila Rupa Gosvami, the association and service

>of such a maha-bhagavata, or perfect Vaisnava, are most desirable.

>

>Note:Srila Prabhupada the PURE DEVOTEE and his purports from the

>Srimad-Bhagavatam are FULLY competant to transmit Loving mellows

>(diksa---Vasudava is revealed in the heart).

>Adi 1.99

>One of the bhagavatas is the great scripture Srimad-Bhagavatam, AND THE

>OTHER IS THE PURE DEVOTEE ABSORBED IN THE MELLOWS OF LOVING DEVOTION.

>

>Adi 1.100

>THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF THESE TWO BHAGAVATAS THE LORD INSTILLS THE

>MELLOWS OF TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE INTO THE HEART OF A LIVING BEING,

>and thus the Lord, in the heart of His devotee, comes under the control of

>the devotee's love.

>

>Note:Madhyama adhikari has received SPIRITUAL initiation.

>Antya 4.192

>DIKSA-kale bhakta kare atma-samarpana

>sei-kale krsna tare kare atma-sama

>"At the time of initiation, when a devotee FULLY SURRENDERS UNTO THE

>SERVICE OF THE LORD, Krsna accepts him to be as good as Himself.

>

>Antya 4.194

>" 'The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives

>up all material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My

>order, and thus acts according to My direction, at that time he reaches the

>platform of immortality, and becomes fit to enjoy the SPIRITUAL BLISS OF

>EXCHANGE OF LOVING MELLOWS WITH ME.'

>

>760211SB.MAY

>In the madhyama-adhikari he can see four things. What is that? Four

>things means, first of all the Supreme Lord, isvara, the controller, he can

>see. HE CAN SEE MEANS HE UNDERSTANDS, HE APPRECIATES, HE CAN CONCEIVE,

>"YES, THE SUPREME LORD IS THERE". THERE IS NO MORE THEORETICAL.

>

>Srila Prabhupada the PURE devotee is the ACARYA who is giving us this

>opportunity for Krishna and his pastimes --loving mellows--to be

>transferred from his heart to ours PROVIDED we chant the Hare Krishna

>mantra offenseless and pure(love of God).

>SB 10.2.18

>As indicated here by the word manastah, the SUPREME PERSONALITY OF

>GODHEAD WAS TRANSFERRED FROM THE CORE OF VASUDEVA'S MIND OR HEART TO THE

>CORE OF THE HEART OF DEVAKI. WE SHOULD NOTE CAREFULLY THAT THE LORD WAS

>TRANSFERRED TO DEVAKI NOT BY THE ORDINARY WAY FOR A HUMAN BEING, BUT BY

>DIKSA, INITIATION. Thus the importance of initiation is mentioned here.

>UNLESS ONE IS INITIATED BY THE RIGHT PERSON, WHO ALWAYS CARRIES WITHIN HIS

>HEART THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, ONE CANNOT ACQUIRE THE POWER TO

>CARRY THE SUPREME GODHEAD WITHIN THE CORE OF ONE'S OWN HEART.

>

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> "Mahesh Raja" <mahesh.r

>SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING THIS ORDER OF GURU

>MAHARAJA

>

>SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING THIS ORDER OF GURU MAHARAJA

>

>In the following letter Srila Prabhupada gives a HUGE amount of

>information.

>

>1) Notice how he gives Sridhara Maharaja -credit-for ONLY--- HE EXECUTES

>THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES-so we can understand Sridhara Maharaja was NOT on

>prema bhakti level---this is why Srila Prabhupada again says AMONGST MY

>GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. How can a person disobey

>the Guru and become Guru?

>

>2) Srila Prabhupada KNEW the mentality of his "disciples" FULLY well-this

>is why he says THEREFORE WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON

>CAMP-they all had the same ACARYA disease. As a Representative of the

>Supersoul -he could FULLY understand their desire to be worshipped as

>ACARYA---but as the

>

>Bhagavad-Gita says from lust rises anger then memory is bewildered then

>-intelligence is lost----so they went to the extent of poisoning Srila

>Prabhupada---to grab the "ACARYA" disease.

>

>74-04-28. Letter: Rupanuga

>

> You are right about Sridhara Maharaja's genuineness. But in my opinion

>he is the best of the lot. He is my old friend, AT LEAST HE EXECUTES THE

>REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. I do not wish to discuss about