Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Dear Vridavan Das: Pranam, Prabhupada ki jay!! Thanks very much for your last topics. Know I had already take a discussion with our so called historians Cathleen and the other guy: I can understand this materialistic people and because they are bewilders by Maya. But this guy, the Hardcore Hindu fundamentalist riktvik Mahes raja, only waste and corrupted with his bitterness your nice forum. Because he es a big prakrita bhakta that he cannot appreciate the genuine Prabhupada representatives. His fanaticism is so strong, that I thinking by him the other historian people reaction like this. Any way, I beg my dear viasnava friend, please don't put in your forum the bitterness of this guy. The milk touched by the lips of a serpent become poinson. So I don't want to recipe any thing for him. He is a obsessed creazy fanatic. Hare Krsna Das. De: Mahesh Raja <mahesh.r (AT) virgin (DOT) net>Para: eGroups Digest <vediculture >Fecha: Jueves 14 de Septiembre de 2000 3:17 PMAsunto: [world-vedic] MARYADA-VYATIKRAMA MARYADA-VYATIKRAMA Srila Prabhupada knew –that these insincere “disciples” were after mundane self -aggrandizement, adoration, profit but he nevertheless tries to guide them. The lust crazy “disciples” go on to be “gurus” wanting to be worshiped as good as God (ACARYA). As established below Srila Prabhupada stands to be our CURRENT LINK for AS LONG AS we have HIS DIVINE GRACES PURPORTS OF SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM. So clearly it is MARYADA-VYATIKRAMA for these pretenders and the reaction will be: (SB 3.4.26 see below) According to scriptural injunction one should be very careful of transgressing the law of maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing one loses his duration of life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the world. SRILA PRABHUPADA IS OUR CURRENT LINKSB 2.9.8Lord Brahmä heard the occult sound tapa, BUT HE DID NOT SEE THE PERSON WHO VIBRATED THE SOUND. And still he accepted the instruction as beneficial for him, and therefore he engaged himself in meditation for one thousand celestial years. One celestial year is equal to 6 x 30 x 12 x 1000 of our years. His acceptance of the sound was due to his pure vision of the absolute nature of the Lord. And due to his correct vision, he made no distinction between the Lord and the Lord's instruction. There is no difference between the Lord and sound vibration coming from Him, even though He is not personally present. The best way of understanding is to accept such divine instruction, and Brahmä, the prime spiritual master of everyone, is the living example of this process of receiving transcendental knowledge. THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM or Bhagavad-gitä or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.Srila Prabhupada and his words are on the transcendental platform therefore his purports to the SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM is the CURRENT LINK. AS LONG AS WE HAVE PRABHUPADA'S PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM HE WILL BE OUR CURRENT LINK BECAUSE **THE REAL** MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM ARE **HIS** PURPORTS.ADI 1.35There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER'S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple. SB 2.9.7As already stated, Brahmä is the original spiritual master for theuniverse, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS COMING DOWN BY DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION, and in order to receive THE REAL MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM one should approach THE CURRENT LINK, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession. SB 3.4.26 Vidura Approaches Maitreya Sri Uddhava said: You may take lessons from the great learned sage Maitreya, who is nearby and who is worshipable for reception of transcendental knowledge. He was directly instructed by the Personality of Godhead while He was about to quit this mortal world. PURPORT ALTHOUGH ONE MAY BE WELL VERSED IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL SCIENCE, ONE SHOULD BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE OFFENSE OF MARYADA-VYATIKRAMA, OR IMPERTINENTLY SURPASSING A GREATER PERSONALITY. According to scriptural injunction one should be very careful of transgressing the law of maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing one loses his duration of life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the world. To be well versed in the transcendental science necessitates awareness of the techniques of spiritual science. Uddhava, being well aware of all these technicalities of transcendental science, advised Vidura to approach Maitreya Rsi to receive transcendental knowledge. Vidura wanted to accept Uddhava as his spiritual master, but Uddhava did not accept the post because Vidura was as old as Uddhava's father and therefore Uddhava could not accept him as his disciple, especially when Maitreya was present nearby. The rule is that in the presence of a higher personality one should not be very eager to impart instructions, even if one is competent and well versed. So Uddhava decided to send an elderly person like Vidura to Maitreya, another elderly person, but he was well versed also because he was directly instructed by the Lord while He was about to quit this mortal world. Since both Uddhava and Maitreya were directly instructed by the Lord, both had the authority to become the spiritual master of Vidura or anyone else, but Maitreya, being elderly, had the first claim to becoming the spiritual master, especially for Vidura, who was much older than Uddhava. One should not be eager to become a spiritual master cheaply for the sake of profit and fame, but should become a spiritual master only for the service of the Lord. The Lord never tolerates the impertinence of maryada-vyatikrama. ONE SHOULD NEVER PASS OVER THE HONOR DUE TO AN ELDERLY SPIRITUAL MASTER IN THE INTERESTS OF ONE'S OWN PERSONAL GAIN AND FAME. IMPERTINENCE ON THE PART OF THE PSEUDO SPIRITUAL MASTER IS VERY RISKY TO PROGRESSIVE SPIRITUAL REALIZATION.This is an information resource and discussion group for people interested in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its historical, archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India, Hinduism, God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome. Attachment: (image/gif) 006401c01f0b$2c482200$LocalHost (AT) mexnet (DOT) mcsa.net.mx [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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