RE: [world-vedic] SATSVARUPA MAHARAJA'S NEXT BODY?

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SATSVARUPA MAHARAJA'S NEXT BODY?SRILA PRABHUPADA APPEARS

TO PREDICT THE OUT COME OF USURPING A PUREBRAHMANAS PROPERTY(THE DISCIPLES, THE

PROPERTY EVERYTHING BELONGS TO SRILA PRABHUPADA-THE PURE BRAHMANA). BUT

SATSVARUPA MAHARAJA AND OTHERS HAVE FORCIBLY USURPED SRILA PRABHUPADA'S

DISCIPLES CLAIMING THEM AS THEIR "INITIATED DISCIPLES" ALTHOUGH THEY ARE UNABLE

TO GIVE THEM DIKSA. 9TH JULY 1977 A LETTER INSTRUCTING THEM TO ACT AS RITVIKS

WAS SIGNED BY SRILA PRABHUPADA BUT THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE TOTALLY

DISREGARDED.HERE THE QUESTION IS RAISED: HOW DOES KRISHNA KNOW THE FUTURE OF A

LIVING ENTITY?760603mw.la Prabhupada: No, no. That means you do not know what

is the independence. You can, you can change your position at any time. That is

your independence.Ramesvara: But doesn't Krsna know if I will do it?Prabhupada:

Yes, because you are independent. That is the meaning.Ramesvara:

Marginal.Prabhupada: What will the.... That will depend on.... AND THE RESULT

HEKNOWS. JUST AS A LAWYER KNOWS THAT HE HAS DONE THIS, CRIMINAL, HE'LL

BEPUNISHED LIKE THIS. SO HIS POSITION TO KNOW THE FUTURE IS ALWAYS THERE.Either

in this condition or other condition.Ramesvara: But the lawyer

doesn't...Prabhupada: Why Krsna? Everyone knows. Suppose you have got this

body; NEXT BODY HE'S A DOG. I CAN SAY YOU'LL BARK.Ramesvara: Yes.PRABHUPADA:

WHAT YOU'LL DO? THAT'S ALL. WHAT TO SPEAK OF KRSNA; I CAN SAY.PUSTA KRSNA: THAT

WAS SATSVARUPA'S QUESTION, SATSVARUPA MAHARAJA'SQUESTION.SRILA PRABHUPADA

APPEARS TO PREDICT HE WILL NOT MEET HIM IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD BECAUSE HE WILL

DEVIATE AND NOT KEEP ASSOCIATION WITH HIM.68-09-20 Letter: SatsvarupaOur

relationship is eternal. But if somebody lags behind, SO IN SPITE OF OUR

ETERNAL RELATIONSHIP ONE MAY NOT MEET OTHER AT THE DESTINATION. Just like a

flock of birds--although very intimately related, everyone of them has to fly

in the sky by individual strength. If one is less strong, the other cannot keep

him in the sky. That is the law of nature. So long everyone of us is strong in

Krishna Consciousness, there is no doubt, you can fly in the spiritual sky and

meet together without failure. Therefore, individual strength is most

important. And that individual strength is achieved in the association of

devotees also. So you can make your own judgment.THE DEVIATION:HE KNOWS HE IS

INCAPABLE TO GIVE DIKSA(SPIRITUAL INITIATION) TO A MADHYAMA ADHIKARI. ACCORDING

TO NECTAR OF INSTRUCTION(ALSO SEE CC ANTYA 4.192-4.194) ONLY UTTAMA ADHIKARI

(PRABHUPADA) IS FIT FOR GIVING THE DIKSA TO THE MADHYAMA ADHIKARI (WHICH

ENABLES THE MADHYAM ADHIKARI TO ENTER INTO THE PASTIMES AND RELISH THE LOVING

MELLOWS WITH KRISHNA). HE AND OTHERS ARE NOW ENGAGED IN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER

BUSINESS.Iso 12 These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society.

Becausethere is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of

the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly

declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious

propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20).

Sri Isopanisad confirms that these pseudo religionists are heading toward the

most obnoxious place in the universe after the completion of their SPIRITUAL

MASTER BUSINESS, which they conduct simply for sense gratification.KRISHNA

WARNS NOT TO STEAL A PURE BRAHMANAS PROPERTY.WHAT MISFORTUNE AWAITS THOSE WHO

HAVE STOLEN SRILA PRABHUPADA'S PROPERTY, HISDISCIPLES.KB 64 The Story of King

NrgaAt this time, Lord Krsna was present among His relatives who weremembers of

the ksatriya class. To teach them through the exemplarycharacter of King Nrga,

He said, "Even though a ksatriya king may be aspowerful as fire, it is not

possible for him to usurp the property of abrahmana and utilize it for his own

purpose. If this is so, how canordinary kings, who falsely think of themselves

as the most powerful beings within the material world, usurp a brahmana's

property? I do not think that taking poison is as dangerous as taking a

brahmana's property. For ordinary poison there is treatment--one can be

relieved from its effects; but if one drinks the poison of taking a brahmana's

property, there is no remedy for the mistake.THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS KING NRGA.

HE WAS VERY POWERFUL AND VERY PIOUS, BUT DUE TO THE SMALL MISTAKE OF

UNKNOWINGLY USURPING A BRAHMANA'S COW, HE WAS CONDEMNED TO THE ABOMINABLE LIFE

OF A LIZARD. Ordinary poison affects only those who drink it, and ordinary fire

can be extinguished simply by pouring water on it; BUT THE ARANI FIRE IGNITED BY

THE SPIRITUAL POTENCY OF A BRAHMANA CAN BURN TO ASHES THE WHOLE FAMILY OF A

PERSON WHO PROVOKES SUCH A BRAHMANA." (Formerly, the brahmanas used to ignite

the fire of sacrifice not with matches or any other external fire but with

their powerful mantras, called arani.) "IF SOMEONE EVEN TOUCHES A BRAHMANA'S

PROPERTY, HE IS RUINED FOR THREE GENERATIONS. HOWEVER, IF A BRAHMANA'S PROPERTY

IS FORCIBLY TAKEN AWAY, THE TAKER'S FAMILY FOR TEN GENERATIONS BEFORE HIM AND

TEN GENERATIONS AFTER HIM WILL BECOME SUBJECT TO RUINATION. On the other hand,

if someone becomes a Vaisnava, or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his

family before his birth and ten generations after will become liberated."Lord

Krsna continued: "If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige

and power wants to usurp a brahmana's property, it should be understood that

such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to

suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very

liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a

usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this

hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of

life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A

BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS

MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL. THEREFORE I INSTRUCT YOU, ALL MY BOYS AND

RELATIVES PRESENT HERE, DO NOT, EVEN BY MISTAKE, TAKE THE POSSESSION OF A

BRAHMANA AND THEREBY POLLUTE YOUR WHOLE FAMILY. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO

POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONEATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION

OF HIS LIFE WILL BEREDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING

BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A

SERPENT. A SERPENT GIVES TROUBLE TO ALL OTHER LIVING ENTITIES. My dear boys

andrelatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angrywith

you and calls you by ill names or curses you, still you should notretaliate. On

the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the

brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the

brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My

instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them,

and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example of King Nrga that

even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana, he is put into a

miserable condition of life."

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