**SCIENCE OF KRISHNA**

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**SCIENCE OF KRISHNA** Srila Prabhupada

diksa guru(paramahamsa)well conversant in science of KrsnaAccept no inferior

substitute.

SB 7.13.46As quoted in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 8.128), Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu said:kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene nayayei krsna-tattva-vetta

sei 'guru' hayaA guru, or spiritual master, can be anyone who is well

conversant with the science of Krsna. Therefore although Prahlada Maharaja was

a grhastha ruling over the demons, he was a **paramahamsa**, the best of human

beings, and **thus he is our guru**. Note: science means hypothesis, theory

then **practical demonstration**. The 2/3 majority voted IS-CON "gurus" lack

practical demonstration. Therefore they do not know the **complete science** of

Krishna.We know for a fact that Srila Prabhupada(paramahamsa)is the pure devotee

who has Krishna in his heart and when a devotee chants offenselessly Srila

Prabhupada transmits Krishna into the Madhyama-adhikaris heart. (see CC antya

4.192-4.194 madhyama-adhikari relishes loving mellows with Krishna). This is

diksa.Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsinah(seen Krsna by direct realization).

Therefore he is able to **give** the holy name. The holy name is (pure devotee)

Srila Prabhupada's property to give. 2/3 majority votes "guru" can perform

ceremony of first and secondinitiations on belhaf of Srila Prabhupada(they are

doing this even now----but they want to be worshipped as God which is

unacceptable!) Only(Srila Prabhupada as acarya) acarya is worshipped as good as

God.SB 5.15.4 The word anusasmara is very significant. God consciousness is not

imaginary or concocted. The devotee who is pure and advanced realizes God as He

is. Maharaja Pratiha did so, and due to his **direct realization of Lord

Visnu**, he propagated self-realization and became a preacher. A real preacher

cannot be bogus; he must first of all realize Lord Visnu as He is. As confirmed

in Bhagavad-gita (4.34), upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah: "one

who has seen the truth can impart knowledge." The word tattva-darsi refers to

one who has** perfectly realized** the Supreme personality of Godhead. Such a

person can become a guru and propound Vaisnava philosophy all over the world.

2/3 majority votes "guru" are C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G!. Infact they are also being

cheated because they are losing the opportunity to become fully Krsna

Consciousness.SB 8.6.9 The Vedic mantras say: yasmin vijnate sarvam evam

vijnatam bhavati. When the devotee **sees** the Supreme Personality of Godhead

by his meditation, or when he **sees** the Lord personally, face to face, he

becomes aware of everything within this universe. Indeed, nothing is unknown to

him. Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who

has** seen** the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhagavad-gita (4.34) therefore

advises:tad viddhi pranipatenapariprasnena sevayaupadeksyanti te jnanamjnaninas

tattva-darsinah"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master.

Inquirefrom him submissively and render service unto him. The

self-realized**soul** can impart knowledge unto you because **he** has seen the

truth."Lord Brahma is one of these self-realized authorities (svayambhur naradah

sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh). One must therefore accept the disciplic

succession from Lord Brahma, and then one can understand the Supreme

Personality of Godhead **in fullness**. Here the word visva-murtau indicates

that everything exists in the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. One

who is able to worship Him can see everything in Him and see Him in

everything.Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsina therefore he is able to deliver

Krsna ---it is Srila Prabhupada that has realized **the science** of Krsna

perfectly!SB 10.3.14"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual

master. Inquirefrom him submissively and render service unto him. The

self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the

truth." Vasudeva begot the Supreme Personality of Godhead, yet he was in full

knowledge of how the Supreme Lord appears and disappears. He was therefore

tattva-darsi, a seer of the truth, **because he personally saw** how the

Supreme Absolute Truth appeared as his son.Pratyaksvagamam means direct

perception----Krsna is directlyexperienced---this is complete

science---demonstration!

Srila Prabhupada is this personality who is able to give the Holy name because

he is well conversant with the science. Srila Prabhupada gives Diksa to the

madhyama-adhikari.Bg 9.2 raja-vidya raja-guhyampavitram idam

uttamampratyaksavagamam dharmyamsu-sukham kartum avyayamThis knowledge is the

king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge,

and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the

perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully

performed.Joyfully performed----when Srila Prabhupada gives diksa to the

madhyama-adhikari because he has pleased Srila Prabhupada by offensless

chanting, Krishna's pastimes are also transmitted from

Srila Prabhupada's heart to Madhyam-adhikaris heart. This is Srila Prabhupada

giving actual diksa. 2/3 majority votes "gurus" cannot do this! And because

they want to cheat they are being cheated themselves with the what Srila

Prabhupada has so vividly described in Isopanisad 12 after conducting their

**spiritual master business** they are going to the lowest regions of hell. Bg

9.2 The great devotees relished the taste of unceasing devotional service of

the Lord, hearing, chanting, etc., and by developing the same taste, Narada

wanted also to hear and chant the glories of the Lord. Thus byassociating with

the sages, he developed a great desire for devotionalservice. Therefore, he

quotes from the Vedanta-sutra (prakasas ca karmany abhyasat): if one is engaged

simply in the acts of devotional service, **everything is revealed to him

automatically**, and he can understand. This is called **pratyaksa**,

**directly perceived**.The opportunity to serve as honest ritvik or defiant

cheating pretender 2/3 majority votes "guru": this is the only choice.

Diksa-guru( Srila Prabhupada) well conversant with Krishna science transmits

diksa to madhyama-adhikari. Madhya 8.128Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

also states that although one is situated as a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya,

sudra, brahmacari, vanaprastha, grhastha or sannyasi, if he is conversant in

the science of Krsna he can become a spiritual master as

vartma-pradarsaka-guru, diksa-guru or siksa-guru. The spiritual master who

first gives information about spiritual life is called the

vartma-pradarsaka-guru, the spiritual master who initiates according to the

regulations of the sastras is called the diksa-guru, and the spiritual master

who gives instructions for elevation is called the siksa-guru. Factually** the

qualifications** of a spiritual master **depend on his knowledge of the science

of Krsna**.If the 2/3 majority votes “gurus” were "His Divine

Graces" (Krishna speaks through them) Why nobody except some sentimental

followers are quoting them. This means they are not accepted as authority.

Everybody QUOTES Srila Prabhupada because everybody knows Krishna speaks

through him----this is why he is **accepted as authority**.

[Guest guest]

**SCIENCE OF KRISHNA** Srila Prabhupada diksa guru(paramahamsa)well conversant

in science of Krsna.Accept No Inferior Substitute. Srila Prabhupada is OUR

DIKSA guru!

 

SB 7.13.46As quoted in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 8.128), Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu said:kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene nayayei krsna-tattva-vetta

sei 'guru' hayaA guru, or spiritual master, can be anyone who is well

conversant with the science of Krsna. Therefore although Prahlada Maharaja was

a grhastha ruling over the demons, he was a **paramahamsa**, the best of human

beings, and **thus he is our guru**. Note: science means hypothesis, theory

then **practical demonstration**. The 2/3 majority voted IS-CON "gurus" lack

practical demonstration. Therefore they do not know the **complete science** of

Krishna.We know for a fact that Srila Prabhupada(paramahamsa)is the pure devotee

who has Krishna TELEVISED in his heart and when a devotee chants offenselessly

PURE chanting means Love of Godhead. Srila Prabhupada TRANSMITS Krishna into

the Madhyama-adhikaris heart. (see CC antya 4.192-4.194 madhyama-adhikari

relishes loving mellows with Krishna). This is diksa.

Antya 4.192 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri

DIKSA-KALE bhakta kare atma-samarpana

sei-kale krsna tare kare atma-sama

SYNONYMSdiksa-kale--at the time of initiation; bhakta--the devotee; kare--does;

atma--of himself; samarpana--full dedication; sei-kale--at that time;

krsna--Lord Krsna; tare--him; kare--makes; atma-sama--as spiritual as Himself.

TRANSLATION

AT THE TIME OF INITIATION, when a devotee FULLY SURRENDERS UNTO THE SERVICE OF

THE LORD, Krsna accepts him to be AS GOOD AS HIMSELF.

Antya 4.193 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri

sei deha kare tara cid-ananda-maya

aprakrta-dehe tanra carana bhajaya

SYNONYMS

sei deha--that body; kare--makes; tara--his; cit-ananda-maya--full of

transcendental bliss; aprakrta-dehe--IN THAT TRANSCENDENTAL BODY; tanra--His;

carana--feet; bhajaya--worships.

TRANSLATION

"When the devotee's body is thus transformed into spiritual existence, the

devotee, IN THAT TRANSCENDENTAL BODY, renders service to the lotus feet of the

Lord.Antya 4.194 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri

martyo yada tyakta-samasta-karma

niveditatma vicikirsito me

tadamrtatvam pratipadyamano

mayatma-bhuyaya ca kalpate vai

SYNONYMS

martyah--the living entity subjected to birth and death; yada--as soon as;

tyakta--giving up; samasta--all; karmah--fruitive activities; nivedita-atma--a

fully surrendered soul; vicikirsitah--desired to act; me--by Me; TADA--AT THAT

TIME; AMRTATVAM--IMMORTALITY; pratipadyamanah--attaining; maya--with Me;

atma-bhuyaya--for becoming of a similar nature; ca--also; kalpate--is eligible;

vai--certainly.

TRANSLATION

Antya 4.194 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri

" 'The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives up all

material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My order, and thus

acts according to My direction, AT THAT TIME HE REACHES THE PLATFORM OF

IMMORTALITY, AND BECOMES FIT TO ENJOY THE SPIRITUAL BLISS OF EXCHANGE OF LOVING

MELLOWS WITH ME.'

PURPORT

THIS IS A QUOTATION FROM SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM (11.29.34). AT THE TIME OF

INITIATION, A DEVOTEE GIVES UP ALL HIS MATERIAL CONCEPTIONS. THEREFORE, BEING

IN TOUCH WITH THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, HE IS SITUATED ON THE

TRANSCENDENTAL PLATFORM. THUS HAVING ATTAINED KNOWLEDGE AND THE SPIRITUAL

PLATFORM, HE ALWAYS ENGAGES IN THE SERVICE OF THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF KRSNA. WHEN

ONE IS FREED FROM MATERIAL CONNECTIONS IN THIS WAY, HIS BODY IMMEDIATELY BECOMES

SPIRITUAL, AND KRSNA ACCEPTS HIS SERVICE. However, Krsna does not accept

anything from a person with a material conception of life. When a devotee no

longer has any desire for material sense gratification, in his spiritual

identity he engages in the service of the Lord, for his dormant spiritual

consciousness awakens. This awakening of spiritual consciousness makes his body

spiritual, and thus he becomes fit to render service to the Lord. Karmis may

consider the body of a devotee material, but factually it is not, for a devotee

has no conception of material enjoyment. If one thinks that the body of a pure

devotee is material, he is an offender, for that is a vaisnava-aparadha. In

this connection one should consult Srila Sanatana Gosvami's Brhad-bhagavatamrta

(1.3.45 and 2.3.139).

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A madhyama-adhikari has received SPIRITUAL INITIATION from the spiritual master

and has been FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE

LORD.

760211SB.MAY LecturesIn the madhyama-adhikari he can see four things. What is

that? Four things means, first of all the Supreme Lord, isvara, the controller,

he can see. He can see means he understands, he appreciates, he can conceive,

"Yes, the Supreme Lord is there". There is no more theoretical.

NBS 2 P Narada-bhakti-sutraIf a person is fortunate enough to vanquish all

misgivings caused by material existence and rise up to the stage of nistha, he

can then rise to the stages of ruci (taste) and asakti (attachment for the

Lord). Asakti is the beginning of love of Godhead. By progressing, one then

advances to the stage of relishing a reciprocal exchange with the Lord in

ecstasy (bhava). Every living entity is eternally related to the Supreme Lord,

and this relationship may be in any one of many transcendental humors. At the

stage called asakti, attachment, a person can understand his relationship with

the Supreme Lord. When he understands his position, he begins reciprocating

with the Lord. By constant reciprocation with the Lord, the devotee is elevated

to the highest stage of love of Godhead, prema.

NoI 7

Although maya may be present, it cannot disturb a devotee once he attains the

bhava stage. This is because the devotee can see the real position of maya.

Adi 7.83 Lord Caitanya in Five Features

In this verse it is explained that one who chants the Hare Krsna mantra develops

bhava, ecstasy, which is the point at which revelation begins. It is the

preliminary stage in developing one's original love for God. Lord Krsna

mentions this bhava stage in the Bhagavad-gita (10.8):

aham sarvasya prabhavo

mattah sarvam pravartate

iti matva bhajante mam

budha bhava-samanvitah

"I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from

Me. The wise who know this perfectly engage in My devotional service and

worship Me with all their hearts."

Madhya 15.108 The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya

"DIKSA IS THE PROCESS by which one can awaken HIS TRANSCENDENTAL KNOWLEDGE and

VANQUISH ALL REACTIONS CAUSED BY SINFUL ACTIVITY. A person expert in the study

of the revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa."

Note: (Svarupa)CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION AS THE ETERNAL SERVITOR OF THE SUPREME

PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD realized resulting: VANQUISH ALL REACTIONS CAUSED BY

SINFUL ACTIVITY. Karma (fruitive activity) burned up THIS is DIKSA.

Bg 4.19 T Transcendental Knowledge

yasya sarve samarambhah

kama-sankalpa-varjitah

jnanagni-dagdha-karmanam

tam ahuh panditam budhah

SYNONYMS

yasya--one whose; sarve--all sorts of; samarambhah--in all attempts;

kama--desire for sense gratification; sankalpa--determination; varjitah--are

devoid of; jnana--of perfect knowledge; agni--fire; dagdha--being burnt by;

karmanam--the performer; tam--him; ahuh--declare; panditam--learned; budhah--of

those who know.

TRANSLATION

One is understood to be in full knowledge whose every act is devoid of desire

for sense gratification. He is said by sages to be a worker whose fruitive

action is burned up by the fire of perfect knowledge.

PURPORT

Only a person in full knowledge can understand the activities of a person in

Krsna consciousness. Because the person in Krsna consciousness is devoid of all

kinds of sense-gratificatory propensities, IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE HAS

BURNED UP THE REACTIONS OF HIS WORK BY PERFECT KNOWLEDGE OF HIS CONSTITUTIONAL

POSITION AS THE ETERNAL SERVITOR OF THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD. He is

actually learned who has attained to such perfection of knowledge. DEVELOPMENT

OF THIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE ETERNAL SERVITORSHIP OF THE LORD IS COMPARED TO FIRE.

SUCH A FIRE, ONCE KINDLED, CAN BURN UP ALL KINDS OF REACTIONS TO WORK.

SB 1.2.21 T Divinity and Divine Service

bhidyate hrdaya-granthis

chidyante sarva-samsayah

ksiyante casya karmani

drsta evatmanisvare

SYNONYMS

bhidyate--pierced; hrdaya--heart; granthih--knots; chidyante--cut to pieces;

sarva--all; samsayah--misgivings; ksiyante--terminated; ca--and; asya--his;

karmani--chain of fruitive actions; drste--having seen; eva--certainly;

atmani--unto the self; isvare--dominating.

TRANSLATION

Thus the knot in the heart is pierced, and all misgivings are cut to pieces. THE

CHAIN OF FRUITIVE ACTIONS IS TERMINATED WHEN ONE SEES THE SELF AS MASTER.

PURPORT

ATTAINING SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD MEANS SEEING ONE'S

OWN SELF SIMULTANEOUSLY.

This enlightenment perfectly enables the devotee to distinguish spirit from

matter because the knot of spirit and matter is untied by the Lord. This knot

is called ahankara, and it falsely obliges a living being to become identified

with matter. As soon as this knot is loosened, therefore, all the clouds of

doubt are at once cleared off. One sees his master and fully engages himself in

the transcendental loving service of the Lord, making a full termination of the

chain of fruitive action. In material existence, a living being creates his own

chain of fruitive work and enjoys the good and bad effects of those actions life

after life. BUT AS SOON AS HE ENGAGES HIMSELF IN THE LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD,

HE AT ONCE BECOMES FREE FROM THE CHAIN OF KARMA. HIS ACTIONS NO LONGER CREATE

ANY REACTION.

Note: UNLESS ONE IS INITIATED BY THE RIGHT PERSON, WHO ALWAYS CARRIES WITHIN HIS

HEART THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, ONE CANNOT ACQUIRE THE POWER TO CARRY

THE SUPREME GODHEAD WITHIN THE CORE OF ONE'S OWN HEART. Krsna is TRANSMITTED

from Srila Prabhupada’s heart to the PURE devotee disciples heart. Accepting a

faulty bogus guru means no television in heart. Krsna does not go to faulty

televison. No diksa!SB 1.6.33 P Conversation Between Narada and Vyasadeva

The Absolute Personality of Godhead is not different from His transcendental

name, form, pastimes and the sound vibrations thereof. As soon as a pure

devotee engages himself in the pure devotional service of hearing, chanting and

remembering the name, fame and activities of the Lord, at once He becomes

VISIBLE TO THE TRANSCENDENTAL EYES of the PURE DEVOTEE by REFLECTING HIMSELF ON

THE MIRROR OF THE HEART BY SPIRITUAL TELEVISION. Therefore a pure devotee who is

related with the Lord in loving transcendental service can EXPERIENCE THE

PRESENCE OF THE LORD AT EVERY MOMENT.

SB 2.9.35 P Answers by Citing the Lord' s Version

Therefore, although He is present in every atom, the Supreme Personality of

Godhead may not be visible to the dry speculators; still the mystery is

unfolded before the eyes of the pure devotees because their eyes are anointed

with love of Godhead. And this love of Godhead can be attained only by the

practice of transcendental loving service of the Lord, and nothing else. The

vision of the devotees is not ordinary; it is purified by the process of

devotional service. In other words, as the universal elements are both within

and without, similarly the Lord's name, form, quality, pastimes, entourage,

etc., as they are described in the revealed scriptures or as performed in the

Vaikunthalokas, far, far beyond the material cosmic manifestation, are

factually being televised in the heart of the devotee. The man with a poor fund

of knowledge cannot understand, although by material science one can see things

far away by means of television. FACTUALLY, THE SPIRITUALLY DEVELOPED PERSON IS

ABLE TO HAVE THE TELEVISION OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD ALWAYS REFLECTED WITHIN HIS

HEART. THAT IS THE MYSTERY OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD.

710907IN.LON Lectures

So the time is up? No. (break) By initiated process one is elevated to the

highest position in this material world. Brahmanas' position, in this material

world, is the highest position. So this is a training to come to the

brahminical stage. THEN ONE HAS TO SURPASS THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE ALSO. THAT IS

CALLED PURE GOODNESS. BRAHMANA IS GOODNESS, BUT THERE IS CHANCE OF BEING

CONTAMINATED WITH PASSION AND IGNORANCE, BECAUSE IT IS MATERIAL WORLD. BUT WHEN

(ONE) SURPASSES THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND BECOMES PURE VAISNAVA, THEN KRSNA

BECOMES REVEALED TO HIM. THEREFORE KRSNA'S NAME IS VASUDEVA. PURE STAGE OF LIFE

IS CALLED VASUDEVA STAGE. JUST LIKE VASUDEVA WAS FATHER OF KRSNA. THAT MEANS

WHEN ONE IS SITUATED IN THE VASUDEVA STAGE, SUDDHA-SATTVA, PURE GOODNESS, KRSNA

IS BORN. KRSNA BORN MEANS KRSNA BECOMES VISIBLE, REVEALED. So this initiation

process is gradually to raise a devotee to that platform.

SB 10.2.18 Prayers by the Demigods for Lord Krsna in the Womb

Thereafter, accompanied by plenary expansions, the fully opulent Supreme

Personality of Godhead, who is all-auspicious for the entire universe, was

TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. DEVAKI, HAVING

THUS BEEN INITIATED BY VASUDEVA, BECAME BEAUTIFUL BY CARRYING LORD KRSNA, THE

ORIGINAL CONSCIOUSNESS FOR EVERYONE, THE CAUSE OF ALL CAUSES, WITHIN THE CORE

OF HER HEART, just as the east becomes beautiful by carrying the rising moon.

PURPORT

As indicated here by the word manastah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead was

transferred from the core of Vasudeva's mind or heart to the core of the heart

of Devaki. We should note carefully that the Lord was transferred to Devaki not

by the ordinary way for a human being, but by diksa, initiation. Thus the

importance of initiation is mentioned here. UNLESS ONE IS INITIATED BY THE

RIGHT PERSON, WHO ALWAYS CARRIES WITHIN HIS HEART THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF

GODHEAD, ONE CANNOT ACQUIRE THE POWER TO CARRY THE SUPREME GODHEAD WITHIN THE

CORE OF ONE'S OWN HEART.Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsinah(seen Krsna by

direct realization). Therefore he is able to **give** the holy name. The holy

name is (pure devotee) Srila Prabhupada's property to give. ISKCONS GBC 2/3

majority votes "gurus" are not realized souls they CAN NOT TRANSMIT Krsna and

his pastimes in anothers HEART. This is why all they performing is: ceremony of

first and second initiations---but they want to be worshipped as God which is

unacceptable!) Only(Srila Prabhupada as acarya) acarya is worshipped as good as

God.

SB 5.15.4 The word anusasmara is very significant. God consciousness is not

imaginary or concocted. The devotee who is pure and advanced realizes God as He

is. Maharaja Pratiha did so, and due to his **direct realization of Lord

Visnu**, he propagated self-realization and became a preacher. A real preacher

cannot be bogus; he must first of all realize Lord Visnu as He is. As confirmed

in Bhagavad-gita (4.34), upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah: "one

who has seen the truth can impart knowledge." The word tattva-darsi refers to

one who has** perfectly realized** the Supreme personality of Godhead. Such a

person can become a guru and propound Vaisnava philosophy all over the world.

ISKCON’S UNAUTHORISED 2/3 majority votes "guru" are C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G!. Infact

they are also being cheated because they are losing the opportunity to become

fully Krsna Consciousness.SB 8.6.9 The Vedic mantras say: yasmin vijnate sarvam

evam vijnatam bhavati. When the devotee **sees** the Supreme Personality of

Godhead by his meditation, or when he **sees** the Lord personally, face to

face, he becomes aware of everything within this universe. Indeed, nothing is

unknown to him. Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a

devotee who has** seen** the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhagavad-gita

(4.34) therefore advises:tad viddhi pranipatenapariprasnena sevayaupadeksyanti

te jnanamjnaninas tattva-darsinah"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a

spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him.

The self-realized **soul** can impart knowledge unto you because **he** has

seen the truth."Lord Brahma is one of these self-realized authorities

(svayambhur naradah sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh). One must therefore accept

the disciplic succession from Lord Brahma, and then one can understand the

Supreme Personality of Godhead **in fullness**. Here the word visva-murtau

indicates that everything exists in the form of the Supreme Personality of

Godhead. One who is able to worship Him can see everything in Him and see Him

in everything.Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsina therefore he is able to

deliver Krsna ---it is Srila Prabhupada that has realized **the science** of

Krsna perfectly!SB 10.3.14"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a

spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him.

The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the

truth." Vasudeva begot the Supreme Personality of Godhead, yet he was in full

knowledge of how the Supreme Lord appears and disappears. He was therefore

tattva-darsi, a seer of the truth, **because he personally saw** how the

Supreme Absolute Truth appeared as his son.Pratyaksvagamam means direct

perception----Krsna is directlyexperienced---this is complete

science---demonstration! Srila Prabhupada is this personality who is able to

give the Holy name because he is well conversant with the science. Srila

Prabhupada gives Diksa to the madhyama-adhikari.Bg 9.2 raja-vidya

raja-guhyampavitram idam uttamampratyaksavagamam dharmyamsu-sukham kartum

avyayamThis knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets.

It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self

by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is

joyfully performed.Joyfully performed----when Srila Prabhupada gives diksa to

the madhyama-adhikari because he has pleased Srila Prabhupada by offensless

chanting, Krishna's pastimes are also transmitted from Srila Prabhupada's heart

to Madhyam-adhikaris heart. This is Srila Prabhupada giving actual diksa. 2/3

majority votes "gurus" cannot do this! And because they want to cheat they are

being cheated themselves with the what Srila Prabhupada has so vividly

described in Isopanisad 12 after conducting their **spiritual master business**

they are going to the lowest regions of hell. Bg 9.2 The great devotees relished

the taste of unceasing devotional service of the Lord, hearing, chanting, etc.,

and by developing the same taste, Narada wanted also to hear and chant the

glories of the Lord. Thus by associating with the sages, he developed a great

desire for devotional service. Therefore, he quotes from the Vedanta-sutra

(prakasas ca karmany abhyasat): if one is engaged simply in the acts of

devotional service, **everything is revealed to him automatically**, and he can

understand. This is called **pratyaksa**, **directly perceived**.

The opportunity to serve as honest ritvik or defiant cheating pretender 2/3

majority votes "guru": this is the only choice. Diksa-guru( Srila Prabhupada)

well conversant with Krishna science transmits diksa to madhyama-adhikari.

Madhya 8.128Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura also states that although

one is situated as a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacari,

vanaprastha, grhastha or sannyasi, if he is conversant in the science of Krsna

he can become a spiritual master as vartma-pradarsaka-guru, diksa-guru or

siksa-guru. The spiritual master who first gives information about spiritual

life is called the vartma-pradarsaka-guru, the spiritual master who initiates

according to the regulations of the sastras is called the diksa-guru, and the

spiritual master who gives instructions for elevation is called the siksa-guru.

Factually** the qualifications** of a spiritual master **depend on his knowledge

of the science of Krsna**.

Diksa: transference of Krsna form PURE devotee’s heart to ANOTHER PURE

DEVOTEES’s heart this is SCIENCE not theory. Bogus IS_CON and Gaudiya math

"gurus" do not have Krsna TELEVISED in their hearts to transfer.

Note: There is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL to date provided by the deviant ISKCON "gurus"

who reject July 9th 1977 directive from Srila Prabhupada that Srila Prabhupada

can not give diksa to the generations of devotees. Yet they themselves pretend

to give diksa. The whole question of who gives diksa AFTER Srila Prabhupada in

ISKCON ONLY ARISES IF IT IS CONCLUSIVE PROVED THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA IS UNABLE

TO GIVE DIKSA. Without this the question just does NOT even arise. The deviants

will look totally stupid trying to establish that Srila Prabhupada does not give

diksa because the number of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples who have not got Lord

Krsna TELEVISED in their hearts will protest at their foolishness. Since many

disciples of Srila Prabhupada have not YET got Krsna televised in their hearts

and Srila Prabhupada is the ONLY link: then the deviant "gurus" would be in the

most embarrassing position because HOW are they going to explain to them "you

can not get Krsna televised in your hearts ALSO since Srila Prabhupada is

gone." Whereas we CAN PROVE Srila Prabhupada is MOST competent to give diksa

and he does NOT need to be Physically present to do this.

How The Current Acarya Srila Prabhupada Gives Diksa

Note: Srila Prabhupada is IDENTICAL with his PURPORTS.

SB 1.2.18 P Divinity and Divine Service

Bhagavata book and person are identical.

Adi 1.99 T The Spiritual Masters

eka bhagavata bada----bhagavata-sastra

ara bhagavata----bhakta bhakti-rasa-patra

SYNONYMS

eka--one; bhagavata--in relation to the Supreme Lord; bada--great;

bhagavata-sastra--Srimad-Bhagavatam; ara--the other; bhagavata--in relation to

the Supreme Lord; bhakta--pure devotee; bhakti-rasa--of the mellow of devotion;

patra--the recipient.

TRANSLATION

One of the bhagavatas is the great scripture Srimad-Bhagavatam, and the other is

the pure devotee absorbed in the mellows of loving devotion.

TEXT 100

TEXT

dui bhagavata dvara diya bhakti-rasa

tanhara hrdaye tanra preme haya vasa

SYNONYMS

dui--two; bhagavata--the bhagavatas; dvara--by; diya--giving;

bhakti-rasa--devotional inspiration; tanhara--of His devotee; hrdaye--in the

heart; tanra--his; preme--by the love; haya--becomes; vasa--under control.

TRANSLATION

Through the actions of these TWO bhagavatas the Lord instills the mellows of

transcendental loving service into the heart of a living being, and thus the

Lord, in the heart of His devotee, comes under the control of the devotee's

love.

SB 1.7.22 P The Son of Drona Punished

The spiritual master, BY HIS WORDS, CAN PENETRATE INTO THE HEART OF THE

SUFFERING PERSON AND INJECT KNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL, which alone can

extinguish the fire of material existence.

SB 2.9.8 P Answers by Citing the Lord' s Version

THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS

APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM or Bhagavad-gita or any revealed

scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound

without transcendental potency.

Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER'S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE

SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction

should be the pride of the disciple.

SRILA PRABHUPADA OUR JAGAD DIKSA GURU: LIVING STILL---- IN SOUND! AND IN THIS

SOUND HE GIVES DIKSA750716pc.sf ConversationsReporter (2): What will happen to

the movement in the United States whenyou die?Prabhupada: I WILL NEVER

DIE.Prabhupada: I SHALL LIVE FROM MY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL UTILIZE.

Note: Srila Prabhupada and his words are on the transcendental platform

therefore his PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS THE CURRENT LINK. AS LONG AS

WE HAVE PRABHUPADA'S PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM HE WILL BE OUR CURRENT

LINK BECAUSE **THE REAL** MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM ARE **HIS** PURPORTS.SB

2.9.7As already stated, Brahmä is the original spiritual master for the

universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the MESSAGE OF

SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS COMING DOWN BY DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION, and in order to

receive THE REAL MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM one should approach THE CURRENT

LINK, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.

690113LE.LA Lectures...vani and vapu, and vapu means the physical body, and vani

means the vibration. So we are not concerned about the physical body. Not

concerned means... We are concerned, of course, because the spiritual master,

those who are acaryas, their body is not considered as materiel. Arcye

sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir. Just like the statue of Krsna, to consider that

"This is a stone..." Similarly, arcye sila-dhir gurusu na... Gurusu means those

who are acaryas, to accept their body as ordinary man's body, this is denied in

the sastras. SO ALTHOUGH A PHYSICAL BODY IS NOT PRESENT, THE VIBRATION SHOULD

BE ACCEPTED AS THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, VIBRATION. WHAT WE HAVE

HEARD FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, THAT IS LIVING. DIKSA THE PROCESS of

revealation thru Prabhupada's books.74-11-22 Letter: BahurupaIN MY BOOKS the

philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is EXPLAINED FULLY so if there is anything

which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By

reading daily THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR

SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.75-03-14 Letter: SivaniTo take SHELTER of the

Spiritual Master MEANS TO FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS.

Note: read Srila Prabhupada’s books associate with him directly

721020ND.VRN Lectures

But in this life, if we develop Krsna consciousness by association of

devotees... As Narottama dasa Thakura has sung, tandera carana-sevi-bhakta-sane

vasa. One's aim of life should be to serve the acaryas. Acarya upasanam. So our

acarya in the Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya, the sri-rupa sanatana

bhatta-raghunatha, sri-jiva gopala-bhatta dasa-raghunatha, the Six Gosvamins,

and if we associate with them... this book, Nectar of Devotion,

Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, if you read regularly, try to understand, this means

you are associating with Srila Rupa Gosvami directly. And if you act

accordingly, then you are serving their lotus feet.

 

SB 4.31.2 One desiring perfection or liberation SHOULD ASSOCIATE WITH A PERSON

WHO IS ALREADY LIBERATED. THIS IS CALLED SADHU-SANGA, ASSOCIATING WITH A

PERFECT DEVOTEE.EK 4 There are two conceptions of presence--the physical

conception and the vibrational conception. The physical conception is

temporary, whereas the vibrational conception is eternal. When we enjoy or

relish the vibration of Krsna's teachings in Bhagavad-gita, or when we chant

Hare Krsna, we should know that by those vibrations He is immediately present.

He is absolute, and because of this His vibration is just as important as His

physical presence. WHEN WE FEEL SEPARATION FROM KRSNA OR THE SPIRITUAL MASTER,

WE SHOULD JUST TRY TO REMEMBER THEIR WORDS OF INSTRUCTIONS, AND WE WILL NO

LONGER FEEL THAT SEPARATION. SUCH ASSOCIATION WITH KRSNA AND THE SPIRITUAL

MASTER SHOULD BE ASSOCIATION BY VIBRATION, NOT PHYSICAL PRESENCE. THAT IS REAL

ASSOCIATION. We put so much stress on seeing, but when Krsna was present on

this earth, so many people saw Him and did not realize that He is God; so what

is the advantage of seeing? By seeing Krsna, we will not understand Him, but by

listening carefully to His teachings, we can come to the platform of

understanding. We can touch Krsna immediately by sound vibration; therefore we

should give more stress to the sound vibration of Krsna and of the spiritual

master--then we'll feel happy and won't feel separation.680818SB.MON

LecturesPrabhupada: Oh, that you should not think. If... The words... There are

two conceptions: the physical conception and the vibration conception. So

physical conception is temporary. The vibration conception is eternal. Just

like we are enjoying or we are relishing the vibration of Krsna's teachings. So

by vibration He is present. As soon as we chant Hare Krsna or chant

Bhagavad-gita or Bhagavata, so He is present immediately by His vibration. He's

absolute. Therefore try to remember His words of instruction; you'll not feel

separation. You'll feel that He is with you. So we should associate by the

vibration, and not by the physical presence. That is real association. Sabdad

anavrtti. By sound. Just like we are touching Krsna immediately by sound. Sound

vibration. SO WE SHOULD GIVE MORE STRESS ON THE SOUND VIBRATION, EITHER OF KRSNA

OR OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER. THEN WE'LL FEEL HAPPY AND NO SEPARATION.CC

Concluding Words Today, Sunday, November 10, 1974--corresponding to the 10th of

Kartikka, Caitanya Era 488, the eleventh day of the dark fortnight, the

Rama-ekadasi--we have now finished the English translation of Sri Krsnadasa

Kaviraja Gosvami' s Sri Caitanya-caritamrta in accordance with the authorised

order of His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Gosvami Maharaja, my

beloved eternal spiritual master, guide and friend.Although according to

material vision His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

Prabhupada passed away from this material world on the last day of December,

1936, I still consider His Divine Grace to be always present with me by his

vani, his words. There are two ways of association--by vani and by vapu. Vani

means words, and vapu means physical presence. PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS SOMETIMES

APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT, BUT VANI CONTINUES TO EXIST ETERNALLY. THEREFORE

WE MUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VANI, NOT THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE. Bhagavad-gita,

for example, is the vani of Lord Krsna. Although Krsna was personally present

five thousand years ago and is no longer physically present from the

materialistic point of view, Bhagavad-gita continues.

75-11-04 Letter: SuciYou have rightly said that the best way to associate with

the spiritual master is to follow his instructions. There are two ways of

associating, by vani and by vapu. Vani means words and vapu means physical

presence. PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS SOMETIMES APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT.

THEREFORE WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VANI, NOT THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE,

BECAUSE THE VANI CONTINUES TO EXIST ETERNALLY. Bhagavad-gita for example is the

vani of Lord Krishna. Although Krishna was personally present 5,000 years ago

and is no longer present physically from the materialistic viewpoint, still

Bhagavad-gita continues. So you have correctly concluded.

70-06-22 Letter: HamsadutaWE ARE NOT SEPARATED ACTUALLY. There are two--vani or

vapu. So vapu is physical presence and vani is presence by the vibration, but

they are all the same. So Krsna when He was physically present before Arjuna is

the same when He is present before us by His vani of Bhagavad-gita. So far I am

concerned, I do not factually feel any separation from my Spiritual Master

because I am trying to serve Him according to His desire. That should be the

motto. IF YOU KINDLY TRY TO FULFILL MY MISSION FOR WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN SENT

THERE, THAT WILL BE OUR CONSTANT ASSOCIATION.Note: gold is gold it does not

change to iron BONA FIDE means genuine it does NOT lose its genuine feature

otherwise it’s a FAKE no falldowns. Time eternal (NITYA SIDDHA). Eternal

includes past present and future THIS is Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada IS

our BONA FIDE spiritual master. This is Srila Prabhupada. And those who reject

him are deviants who are after PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT personal worship, money,

followers.

Bg 4.42 P Transcendental Knowledge

A BONA FIDE spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from TIME ETERNAL,

and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord as

they were imparted millions of years ago to the sun-god, from whom the

instructions of Bhagavad-gita have come down to the earthly kingdom. One

should, therefore, follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is expressed in the

Gita itself and BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT

WHO DEVIATE OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH.

Note: deviants say (Acarya) Srila Prabhupada is not able to give diksa now.

SB 3.29.17 It is recommended herewith that all the acaryas be given the highest

respect. It is stated, gurusu nara-matih. GURUSU MEANS "UNTO THE ACARYAS," and

nara-matih means "thinking like a common man." To think of the Vaisnavas, the

devotees, as belonging to a particular caste or community, to think of the

acaryas as ordinary men or to think of the Deity in the temple as being made of

stone, wood or metal, IS CONDEMNED.Adi 7.115 In this connection the Padma Purana

states, arcye visnau sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih: "One who

considers the arca-murti, the worshipable Deity of Lord Visnu, to be stone, THE

SPIRITUAL MASTER TO BE AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, and a Vaisnava to belong to a

particular caste or creed, is possessed of HELLISH INTELLIGENCE." One who

follows such conclusions is doomed.

Note: formality was to be conducted by representatives of acarya.

Madhya 24.330 Similarly, a disciple's qualifications must be observed by the

spiritual master before he is accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna

consciousness movement, the requirement is that one must be prepared to give up

the four pillars of sinful life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and

gambling. In Western countries especially, we first observe whether a potential

disciple is prepared to follow the regulative principles. Then he is given the

name of a Vaisnava servant and initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra,

at least sixteen rounds daily. In this way the disciple renders devotional

service under the guidance of the spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT

LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. He is then recommended for a second initiation,

during which a sacred thread is offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona

fide brahmana.

Note: Formality of Initiation by representatives as per Madhya 24.330 was to

create brahmana’s by Pancaratriki-vidhi process. Then gradually develop to the

stage of ACTUAL qualifications of a QUALIFIED brahmana then Vaisnava.

710329BG.BOM Lectures

Our Sanatana Gosvami gives direction in the Hari-bhakti-vilasa that one man can

become a brahmana by the regular process of diksa. Diksa, this initiation,

cannot be offered to a sudra. Diksa cannot be offered to a sudra. But in this

age, Kali-yuga, it is the statement of the sastras that in the Kali-yuga most

of the population are sudras. Kalau sudra sambhavah. How they can be initiated?

THIS INITIATION IS OFFERED NOT ACCORDING TO THE VEDIC RULES, BECAUSE IT IS VERY

DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT A QUALIFIED BRAHMANA. DIKSA IS OFFERED TO A QUALIFIED

BRAHMANA. THEREFORE THIS DIKSA IS OFFERED ACCORDING TO PANCARATRIKI-VIDHI. THAT

IS RECOMMENDED IN THIS AGE. My spiritual master inaugurated this

Pancaratriki-vidhi, and we are following his footsteps. Anyone who is inclined

to devote his life for Krsna, he should be accepted as brahmana.

 

75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa:

Regarding Sydney, that the President has left, if one does not follow the

regulative principles, then he will leave. That is a fact. Has somebody else

been elected? This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken

away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR

GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and

doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this

platform. This I want.

Note: this formality was the the function of Ritviks representatives of Acarya

(Srila Prabhupada) as per July 9th 1977 letter knowledge DIKSA is given by

ACARYA Srila Prabhupada. Even according to Srila Prabhupada’s books front cover

it is said ISKCON FOUNDER-ACARYA HIS DIVINE GRACE A C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI

PRABHUPADA Please note carefully founder HYPEN acarya means Srila Prabhupada is

not simply ISKCON’s founder BUT also Its ACARYA **also** –FACT!

761016iv.cha Conversations Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement?

Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do

that?Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge.

(break) ...knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for

knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.

Note: Tamal Krsna ADMITS they are CONDITIONED souls in 22 APRIL 1977 and Srila

Prabhupada appointed them RITVIK ONLY NOTE: in JULY 9th 1977 this is 3 months

must be BIG disappointment they were NOT ACARYA but Ritvik acarya

representatives of ACARYA (Srila Prabhupada). The letter was UNREVOKED. So HOW

is it Just AFTER Srila Prabhupada passed (IN 4 months November) they appointed

themselves "as good as God" Guru(acarya)?. Simple answer conditioned souls

CHEAT.

770422r3.bom ConversationsTamala Krsna: Well, I have studied myself and all of

your disciples, and it's clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we

cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible...Prabhupada: Hm.Tamala Krsna:

....but not now.Prabhupada: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, "Now you

become acarya. You become authorized." I am waiting for that. You become all

acarya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.Tamala Krsna:

The process of purification must be there.Prabhupada: Oh, yes, must be there.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu wants that. Amara ajnaya guru hana. "You become guru."

(laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower...Tamala Krsna: Not

rubber stamp.Prabhupada: Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it

will not be effective. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone wanted to become

guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No publication, no

preaching, simply bring some foodstuff... My Guru Maharaja used to say, "Joint

mess," a place for eating and sleeping. Amar amar ara takana (?)(Bengali):

"Joint mess." He said this.

Note:If the 2/3 majority votes "gurus" or Gaudiya maths present "gurus" were

Acarya "His Divine Graces" (Krishna speaks through them) Why nobody except some

sentimental followers are quoting them. This means they are NOT accepted as

authority. Everybody QUOTES Srila Prabhupada because everybody knows Krishna

speaks through him----this is why he is **ACCEPTED AS AUTHORITY**. Note all the

acaryas are QUOTED by all sections of society Bhaktivinode Thakura , Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta sarasvati Thakura, His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada because

Lord Krsna MANIFESTS in their WORDS. Their words are SCRIPTURE. Others can but

talk parrot fashion with no impact. Professional Bhagavatam reciters—bas! Srila

Prabhupada is the PROMINENT acarya as HE is the one who’s books are LAWBOOKS

NOW! He is quoted NOW!

68-04-12. Letter: Dayananda

Regarding parampara system: there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. Just like

we belong to the Brahma Sampradaya, so we accept it from Krishna to Brahma,

Brahma to Narada, Narada to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva to Madhva, and between

Vyasadeva and Madhva there is a big gap. But it is sometimes said that

Vyasadeva is still living, and Madhva was fortunate enough to meet him

directly. In a similar way, we find in the Bhagavad-gita that the Gita was

taught to the sungod, some millions of years ago, but Krishna has mentioned

only three names in this parampara system--namely, Vivasvan, Manu, and Iksvaku;

and so these gaps do not hamper from understanding the parampara system. WE HAVE

TO PICK UP THE PROMINENT ACARYAS, AND FOLLOW FROM HIM. There are many branches

also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to record all the

branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. We have to pick up from

the authority of the acharya in whatever sampradaya we belong to.

Srila Prabhupada is the SB 3.29.17 P Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila

In Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that one should

execute devotional service and advance on the path of spiritual knowledge by

accepting the acarya. Acaryopasanam: one should worship an acarya, a spiritual

master who knows things as they are. The spiritual master must be in the

disciplic succession from Krsna. The predecessors of the spiritual master are

his spiritual master, his grand spiritual master, his great-grand spiritual

master and so on, who form the disciplic succession of acaryas.

Note : Srila Prabhupada KNEW of the dangers "THERE IS VERY GREAT UNDERCURRENT"

he forbade his disciples from his Godbrothers THIS was the MAIN danger because

they were clearly after his disciples,property,reputation and money. Srila

Prabhupada was very blunt on the non-acarya position of his Godbrothers "THE

RESULT IS NOW EVERYONE IS CLAIMING TO BE ACARYA EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE

KANISTHA ADHIKARI WITH NO ABILITY TO PREACH". He stated they MAY BE Kanistha

which means they were unlikey to have even attained the position of Kanistha

adhikari what to speak of Acarya (Uttama adhikari/Mahabhagavata/Topmost

devotee). Srila Prabhupada KNEW they were IMITATING the role of ACARYA. Srila

Prabhupada wanted to protect his disciples and the movement from these

sahajiyas.

770527vg.vrn Conversations

Prabhupada: You should be very much determined, strong-minded. Otherwise it will

slip. Such huge property...

Tamala Krsna: Actually these properties are the envy of all of India. They're

the best properties in each place.

Prabhupada: Not only property. Our prestige, our position... Everything is

envied. Everywhere we are first class.

Tamala Krsna: Yes. There's no rival.

Bhavananda: THERE WILL BE MEN, I KNOW. THERE WILL BE MEN WHO WANT TO TRY AND

POSE THEMSELVES AS GURU.

Tamala Krsna: That was going on many years ago. YOUR GODBROTHERS WERE THINKING

LIKE THAT. MADHAVA MAHARAJA...

Bhavananda: Oh, yes. Oh, ready to jump.

Prabhupada: Very strong management required and vigilant observation.

(background whispering, Tamala Krsna and Bhavananda) So you are foreign...

Gopala Krsna: Beg your pardon?

Prabhupada: You are foreign trained up. And you also idea how to protect our interest.

Gopala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada, I'm always...

Prabhupada: THERE IS VERY GREAT UNDERCURRENT.

Gopala Krsna: I never trusted them much. I know those things. (background whispering, Bhavananda)

75-11-09. Letter: Visvakarma

Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated September

3, 1975 with the enclosed statement about Van Maharaja. So I have now issued

orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. THEY SHOULD

NOT HAVE ANY DEALINGS WITH THEM NOR EVEN CORRESPONDENCE, NOR SHOULD THEY GIVE

THEM ANY OF MY BOOKS OR SHOULD THEY PURCHASE ANY OF THEIR BOOKS, NEITHER SHOULD

YOU VISIT ANY OF THEIR TEMPLES. PLEASE AVOID THEM.

74-04-28. Letter: Rupanuga

You are right about Sridhara Maharaja's genuineness. But in my opinion he is the

best of the lot. He is my old friend, AT LEAST HE EXECUTES THE REGULATIVE

PRINCIPLES OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. I do not wish to discuss about activities of

my Godbrothers but it is a fact they have no life for preaching work. All are

satisfied with a place for residence in the name of a temple, they engage

disciples to get foodstuff by transcendental devices and eat and sleep. They

have no idea or brain how to broacast the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. My

Guru Maharaja used to lament many times for this reason and he thought if one

man at least had understood the principle of preaching then his mission would

achieve success. In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted.

Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live

for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body

for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. HE NEVER RECOMMENDED ANYONE TO BE

ACARYA OF THE GAUDIYA MATH. BUT SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING

THIS ORDER OF GURU MAHARAJA, AND HE AND OTHERS WHO ARE ALREADY DEAD

UNNECESSARILY THOUGHT THAT THERE MUST BE ONE ACARYA. If Guru Maharaja could

have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have

mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many

things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be

nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct

the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out

successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So

Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one

acarya and later it proved a failure. THE RESULT IS NOW EVERYONE IS CLAIMING TO

BE ACARYA EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE KANISTHA ADHIKARI WITH NO ABILITY TO PREACH.

IN SOME OF THE CAMPS THE ACARYA IS BEING CHANGED THREE TIMES A YEAR. THEREFORE

WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP. ACTUALLY AMONGST MY

GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. SO IT IS BETTER NOT TO MIX

WITH MY GODBROTHERS VERY INTIMATELY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF INSPIRING OUR STUDENTS

AND DISCIPLES THEY MAY SOMETIMES POLLUTE THEM. This attempt was made previously

by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but

somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very

careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all.

They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our

natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

Note: the sad part of ISKCON history is Srila Prabhupada’s deviant "disciples"

did not listen to him and were polluted: accepted the acarya disease lured by

money, followers, adoration the following result awaits their destiny:

Isopanisad 12

The Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service--which is

the one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead--one attains

complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path

of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of

knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS

HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM

WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF

PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE DISPLAY

OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE WHILE

INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS

SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD. SUCH VIOLATORS OF RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES

HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORITATIVE ACARYAS, THE HOLY TEACHERS IN THE STRICT

DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST

WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--AND KRSNA'S STATEMENT IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA (4.2) EVAM

PARAMPARA-PRAPTAM, "THIS SUPREME SCIENCE OF GOD IS RECEIVED THROUGH THE

DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION." INSTEAD, TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL THEY

THEMSELVES BECOME SO-CALLED ACARYAS, BUT THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES

OF THE ACARYAS.

THESE ROGUES ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS ELEMENTS IN HUMAN SOCIETY. BECAUSE THERE IS

NO RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT, THEY ESCAPE PUNISHMENT BY THE LAW OF THE STATE. THEY

CANNOT, HOWEVER, ESCAPE THE LAW OF THE SUPREME, WHO HAS CLEARLY DECLARED IN THE

BHAGAVAD-GITA THAT ENVIOUS DEMONS IN THE GARB OF RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDISTS SHALL

BE THROWN INTO THE DARKEST REGIONS OF HELL (BG. 16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD

CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS

PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS,

WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.Note: becoming Vaisnava is

not so cheap.

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Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is

kanistha-adhikari. The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a

QUALIFIED brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high position in

the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari.

arcayam eva haraye

pujam yah sraddhayehate

na tad-bhaktesu canyesu

sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah

The brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the

spiritual stage. AND BELOW THE BRAHMANA THERE IS NO QUESTION OF VAISNAVA.

Note: For those who do NOT wish to play at being " as good as God" acarya then

there is ample opportunity to QUALIFY as a Brahmana then as Vaisnava to achieve

going back to Godhead back home. It is a question of being truthful where we are

and progressing onwards march.

SB 1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service

The very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary man, or

even one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or

perfectly the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when

one can understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit.

And as soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at

once ceases his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being.

This attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of passion

and ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by

qualification. A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF

GOODNESS. AND OTHERS, WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER

KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS, SUDRAS OR LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS

THE HIGHEST STAGE OF HUMAN LIFE BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE

A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT LEAST QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a

brahmana by action. But that is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A

BRAHMANA HAS TO BECOME A VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL

STAGE. A PURE VAISNAVA IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE

POSITION OF A BRAHMANA. IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A

CONDITIONED SOUL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF

BRAHMAN OR TRANSCENDENCE IS REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD

IS LACKING. ONE HAS TO SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA

STAGE TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.

Note: Krsna is the benefactor of the TRUTHFUL devotee means Brahmana quality so

if one WANTS to achieve Krsna then Krsna helps. Man is the architect of his

fortune and misfortune so either one can accept Srila Prabhupada as DIKSA guru

or refuse him this is the choice. Why did the soul come to this material world?

because of iccha and the soul can also compete with the acarya Srila Prabhupada

(Krsna’s Representative) on equal level thus he is captured in material bondage

again.

SB 3.27.20 P Understanding Material Nature

Material bondage is caused by putting oneself under the control of matter

because of the false ego of lording it over material nature. Bhagavad-gita

(7.27) states, iccha-dvesa-samutthena. Two kinds of propensities arise in the

living entity. One propensity is iccha, which means desire to lord it over

material nature or to be as great as the Supreme Lord. Everyone desires to be

the greatest personality in this material world. Dvesa means "envy." When one

becomes envious of Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one thinks,

"Why should Krsna be the all and all? I'm as good as Krsna."

SB 1.2.17 T Divinity and Divine Service

srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah

punya-sravana-kirtanah

hrdy antah stho hy abhadrani

vidhunoti suhrt satam

SYNONYMS

srnvatam--those who have developed the urge to hear the message of;

sva-kathah--His own words; krsnah--the Personality of Godhead; punya--virtues;

sravana--hearing; kirtanah--chanting; hrdi antah sthah--within one's heart;

hi--certainly; abhadrani--desire to enjoy matter; VIDHUNOTI--CLEANSES;

SUHRT--BENEFACTOR; SATAM--OF THE TRUTHFUL.TRANSLATION

Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma [supersoul] in

everyone's heart and the BENEFACTOR OF THE TRUTHFUL DEVOTEE, cleanses desire

for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who has developed the urge

to hear His messages, which are in themselves virtuous when properly heard and

chanted.

Note: We are fully aware of Srila Prabhupada’s potency to give diksa thru his

books so pretenders especially from the bogus Gaudiya camp and GBC’s IS_CON

camp are offenders. The offense described is maryada-vyatikrama.

SB 3.4.26 Vidura Approaches Maitreya

Sri Uddhava said: You may take lessons from the great learned sage Maitreya, who

is nearby and who is worshipable for reception of transcendental knowledge. He

was directly instructed by the Personality of Godhead while He was about to

quit this mortal world.

PURPORT

Although one may be well versed in the transcendental science, one should be

careful about the offense of maryada-vyatikrama, or impertinently surpassing a

greater personality. According to scriptural injunction one should be very

careful of transgressing the law of maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing one

loses his duration of life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of

all the world. To be well versed in the transcendental science necessitates

awareness of the techniques of spiritual science. Uddhava, being well aware of

all these technicalities of transcendental science, advised Vidura to approach

Maitreya Rsi to receive transcendental knowledge. Vidura wanted to accept

Uddhava as his spiritual master, but Uddhava did not accept the post because

Vidura was as old as Uddhava's father and therefore Uddhava could not accept

him as his disciple, especially when Maitreya was present nearby. The rule is

that in the presence of a higher personality one should not be very eager to

impart instructions, even if one is competent and well versed. So Uddhava

decided to send an elderly person like Vidura to Maitreya, another elderly

person, but he was well versed also because he was directly instructed by the

Lord while He was about to quit this mortal world. Since both Uddhava and

Maitreya were directly instructed by the Lord, both had the authority to become

the spiritual master of Vidura or anyone else, but Maitreya, being elderly, had

the first claim to becoming the spiritual master, especially for Vidura, who

was much older than Uddhava. One should not be eager to become a spiritual

master cheaply for the sake of profit and fame, but should become a spiritual

master only for the service of the Lord. The Lord never tolerates the

impertinence of maryada-vyatikrama. One should never pass over the honor due to

an elderly spiritual master in the interests of one's own personal gain and

fame. Impertinence on the part of the pseudo spiritual master is very risky to

progressive spiritual realization.

 

Note: there are two main offender classes who are envious of Srila Prabhupada’s

success and they want to REPLACE Srila Prabhupada with themselves as guru.

GBC voted false gurus offenders have rejected Srila Prabhupada’s direct

UNREVOKED order of July 9th 1977.Thus they are automatically rejected.

"ACTUALLY AMONGST MY GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA." These

are Srila Prabhupada’s own words. This means both this classes are rejected

then what remains of their so called disciples! Narayana Maharaja superficially

claims to be Srila Prabhupada’s siksa (Instruction) disciple but ignores Srila

Prabhupada’s even the most basic instruction of shaving his beard. Srila

Prabhupada never approved of this and it is well known. Besides this it is also

a fact that Narayana maharaja has been hunting and changing Srila Prabhupada’s

disciples names (reinitiation).

NARAYANA MAHARAJA AND SRIDHARA MAHARAJA INSULTED SRILA PRABHUPADA.

>From the letter below one can see that history repeats itself because they are

conditioned souls they ventured to initiate Srila Prabhupada’s disciples. Thus,

they were caught out as Srila Prabhupada clearly says of the action "SO IT IS

DELIBERATE TRANSGRESSION OF VAISNAVA ETIQUETTES AND OTHERWISE A DELIBERATE

INSULT TO ME. I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE HAS DONE LIKE THIS BUT NO VAISNAVA WILL

APPROVE OF THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION."

68-03-26. Letter: Mukunda

In meantime, I have also received one letter which is very depressing from

Hrsikesa. I understand that he has been induced by Bon Maharaja to be initiated

by him for giving him shelter, and this foolish boy has accepted his inducement.

This isn't very happy news, and I have replied Hrsikesa's letter in the

following words, which please take note, and in the future, we shall be very

cautious about them. "My Dear Hrsikesa, Please accept my blessings. I am in due

receipt of your letter of March 14, 1968, and I am greatly surprised. I AM

GREATLY SURPRISED FOR BON MAHARAJA'S INITIATING YOU IN SPITE OF HIS KNOWING

THAT YOU ARE ALREADY INITIATED BY ME. SO IT IS DELIBERATE TRANSGRESSION OF

VAISNAVA ETIQUETTES AND OTHERWISE A DELIBERATE INSULT TO ME. I DO NOT KNOW WHY

HE HAS DONE LIKE THIS BUT NO VAISNAVA WILL APPROVE OF THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION. I

very much appreciate your acknowledgement of my service unto you and you will

always have my blessings, BUT YOU MUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTEE. A GREAT

BLUNDER. I do not wish to discuss on this point more elaborately now, but if

you are desirous to know further about it, I shall be glad to give you more

enlightenment. Mukunda is not here. He has gone to L.A. Hope you are well." If

Hrsikesa writes you letter I think you may avoid reply. I DO NOT APPROVE BOTH

HRSIKESA'S AND BON MAHARAJA'S THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION. Hoping you are both well.

Note: In venturing to initiate Srila Prabhupada’s disciples ---they could not

even have understood the philosophy properly. As It is clearly stated: A

DEVOTEE MUST HAVE ONLY ONE INITIATING SPIRITUAL MASTER BECAUSE IN THE

SCRIPTURES ACCEPTANCE OF MORE THAN ONE IS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN. For them to

Initiate Srila Prabhupada’s disciples they would be falling into a trap of

REJECTING Srila Prabhupada as the Initiating Guru---DIRECT INSULT—committed

BOTH by the so-called disciple of Srila Prabhupada and their conditioned soul

guides (Narayana Maharaja or Sridhara Maharaja).

 

Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters

The expert spiritual master knows well how to engage his disciple's energy in

the transcendental loving service of the Lord, and thus he engages a devotee in

a specific devotional service according to his special tendency. A DEVOTEE MUST

HAVE ONLY ONE INITIATING SPIRITUAL MASTER BECAUSE IN THE SCRIPTURES ACCEPTANCE

OF MORE THAN ONE IS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN.

GUIDE FOR THE SRILA PRABHUPADA’S SAMADHI CEREMONY----ONLY!!

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Prabhupada: Do you think in this stage is it possible?

Tamala Krsna: I think it would be difficult. Better that we go parikram-ing

around our temple, Krsna-Balarama Mandira. That's a little easier. Don't you

think that's better? If you get a little stronger, then it may be possible.

That will depend on Krsna. So Krsna dasa, we should bring him here. Anyone else

you want to see? NARAYANA MAHARAJA? YES. WE WENT TO SEE HIM JUST TO INQUIRE

ABOUT THE NECESSARY CEREMONY, and he gave us instruction. I sent Bhakti-caru

Maharaja and Bhakti-prema Maharaja, and they wrote down everything. But

Narayana Maharaja was very concerned. He said he's going to try to come to see

you tomorrow. That's all right, isn't it? So Krsna dasa can be called for.

Anytime? Okay. He stays at Radha-kunda? We'll inquire... Does he stay at the

Gaudiya Matha here?

Prabhupada: Hm.

Tamala Krsna: He does. In Vrndavana. Okay.

Prabhupada: Narayana Maharaja comes; then everything is all right.

Tamala Krsna: So if I call Narayana Maharaja, is there any need for Krsna dasa to come?

Prabhupada: He can arrange.

Tamala Krsna: Narayana Maharaja. Yes, actually he wanted to do that. He gave us

instructions, but he also wanted to take part. So better I call Narayana

Maharaja than Krsna dasa? Okay. I'll send a car for him tomorrow morning. He

was saying he was thinking to come tomorrow, so I'll send a car and say

"Prabhupada requests if it's convenient that you can come this morning."

That'll be all right? Jaya Srila Prabhupada. (break)

Prabhupada: When you have come back?

Bhagavata: I just came just now, a half hour before, from America.

Upendra: And he's real skinny, Srila Prabhupada. He's skinny.

Prabhupada: Why?

Bhagavata: Because I am following caturmasya. I have reduced to 160 pounds.

Before I was 260. Now I am 160.

Prabhupada: Very nice.

Bhagavata: Shall I chant?

Prabhupada: Yes. (kirtana begins) (Bengali conversation) Who is here?

Tamala Krsna: Tamala Krsna.

Prabhupada: Have kirtana. (pause) So after my passing away, these, all the

temples, they should receive some money for holding utsava.

Tamala Krsna: In your honor.

Prabhupada: Yes, in the temple.

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Prabhupada.

Gurukrpa: Jaya Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Who is he?

Tamala Krsna: Gurukrpa Swami.

Prabhupada: Go on kirtana. (kirtana begins)

Tamala Krsna: Closed? Open? (break)

Prabhupada: (Bengali)

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) (break)

Hari-sauri: Bhavananda? Prabhupada said that somebody was saying that Bhavananda was coming.

Tamala Krsna: Yes. Bhakti-caru telegrammed to Bhavananda and Jayapataka and

Satadhanya Swami to come immediately. That all right? (break)

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali)

Prabhupada: (Bengali conversation)

Tamala Krsna: He wants to see a panditaji from there. So can you get that

panditaji? You want to see him tonight, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: (Bengali) And Narayana Maharaja, he'll come tomorrow?

Tamala Krsna: He'll come when we... Tonight could he come? You think that's too late?

Bhakti-caru: I think he'll come, if we go and pick him up.

Tamala Krsna: If we pick him up, he might come tonight.

Prabhupada: Hm?

Tamala Krsna: If we go just now with the car, Bhakti-caru goes just now with the

car, he may come tonight, Narayana Maharaja.

Prabhupada: Hm. Go on, kirtana. (break)

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada. Shall we put a little fan on? Little bit? (break)

Prabhupada: (Bengali) (Bengali conversation with Godbrothers, followed by

kirtana, Sri Rupa Manjari Pada) Where is Tamala?

Hari-sauri: Get Tamala Krsna. He's just coming, Srila Prabhupada. He's in the other room.

Prabhupada: (Bengali conversation)

Hari-sauri: Jaya Srila Prabhupada. Tamala Krsna.

Prabhupada: You have consulted with Narayana Maharaja?

Tamala Krsna: YES. THIS MORNING BHAKTI-CARU SWAMI, BHAKTI-PREMA SWAMI AND

SRIDHARA SWAMI WENT TO SEE HIM, AND NARAYANA MAHARAJA DESCRIBED THE CEREMONY

FOR THE DEPARTURE OF A VAISNAVA, GREAT VAISNAVA SOUL.

Narayana Maharaja: (Bengali)

Prabhupada: (Bengali) ...entrance right side?

Tamala Krsna: The entrance on the left side entering... Looking towards the

Deity, it's the left side. In other words, when you come into the temple it's

on left side. There's a big open area. (Bengali)

Tamala Krsna: It's on the same side as the vyasasana.

Prabhupada: Ah, yes.

Tamala Krsna: Faces east.

Prabhupada: Puspa, Mayapure, flower.

Tamala Krsna: To Mayapura.

Prabhupada: (Bengali)

Narayana Maharaja: You should call me, and I will come.

Tamala Krsna: Yes. He described the entire ceremony in detail, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: So he knows. When you are ready(?), let him have it. (Bengali)

Narayana Maharaja: (Bengali) You have fulfilled all, everything. (Bengali)

Prabhupada: Don't fight amongst yourselves. I HAVE GIVEN THE EXPLANATION, MY

WILL. EXECUTE LIKE THAT.

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: And then everything will be. They'll guide. Then what there is. (Bengali) Ekadasi?

Narayana Maharaja: Ekadasi.

Prabhupada: (Bengali) (Hamsaduta chants) (end)

Note: Sometimes the sahajiyas try and CHEAT devotees to make them think Srila

Prabhupada invited the Gaudiya math offenders to guide ISKCON. They MANIPULATE

by using such a statement of Srila Prabhupada like "They'll guide". But –take a

LOOK at the WHOLE CONTEXT. This guidance is in reference to SRILA PRABHUPADA’S

SAMADHI ARRANGEMENTS CEREMONY—NOTHING MORE!

Note : if the July 9th 1977 letter was followed then the WILL would STILL BE IN

FORCE .Because Srila Prabhupada’s disciples would NOT exhaust say after

100years . But Narayan Maharaja wants to steal Srila Prabhupada’s disciples and

render the WILL defunct. As the July 9th 1977 letter was NEVER revoked by Srila

Prabhupada and therefore ALL the disciples CONTINUE to be Srila Prabhupada's

for AS LONG AS ISKCON EXISTS. WHY Narayana maharaja is completely opposed to it

and even rejects it? Simple answer: Narayana maharaja wants to steal Srila

Prabhupada's disciples! He has also been changing the disciples names

(reinitiation) but will not admit it. VERY devious.

Srila Prabhupada's WillThe executive directors who have herein been designated

are appointed for life. In the event of death or failure to act for any reason

of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be

appointed by the remaining directors, PROVIDED THE NEW DIRECTOR IS MY INITIATED

DISCIPLE FOLLOWING STRICTLY ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE INTERNATIONAL

SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS AS DETAILED IN MY BOOKS, and provided that

there are never less than three (3) or more than five (5) exeutive directors

acting at one time.

SRILA PRABHUPADA ONLY APPOINTED NARAYANA MAHARAJA AND OTHER GAUDIYA MATHA

OFFENDERS AS SAMADHI CEREMONY GUIDE—BAS! (IT APPEARS SRILA PRABHUPADA KNEW THIS

IS ONE CEREMONY THEY WOULD JOYOUSLY PERFORM ---BECAUSE OF THEIR ENVY TOWARDS

HIM). THEY WERE JUST WAITING TO CAPTURE ISKCON.

SRILA PRABHUPADA’S GODBROTHERS

 

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Bhavananda: People are attracted by the Westerners coming to the matha. So if

we're up at that matha, any of us, and then they say, "Just see." They say in

Bengali, "Just see. They are coming. To see our guru maharaja, they are

coming."

Prabhupada: THAT WAS THE POLICY OF MADHAVA MAHARAJA AND SRIDHARA MAHARAJA, THAT

"ALTHOUGH BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI IS PROPAGATING THROUGHOUT, HE IS SUBORDINATE TO

US, UNDER OUR INSTRUCTION." SO ALL THESE THREE..

Viraha Astaka 1958 (note: Ananta Vasudeva was the THIRD above mentioned)

2) Your so-called disciple, the jackal named Ananta Vasudeva, disobeyed your

final instructions to keep the mission united, and thereby created a scandalous

fiasco. The result of this philosophical deviation is evident to this day as

imitative sahajiyas are being worshiped as gurus in your temples. 3) Is there a

single temple to be found where your instructions are still being followed? As

it is said: "punar musiko bhava"- Everyone has "again become a mouse." 4) The

lion's food has been stolen away by the deceptive tricks of the jackal Now

caught in Maya's mighty clutches everyone is reduced to wailing and weeping.

 

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Prabhupada: At least historically it be proved. (break) ...cause of envy of my

Godbrothers. I was known. Although they knew that Prabhupada liked me very

much, because I am grhastha, I was known as paca-grhastha. PACA-GRHASTHA MEANS

A ROTTEN GRHASTHA. And now they say, "This grhastha has come out more than us?

What is this?" (break) Sridhara Maharaja's chief disciple...?

Bhavananda: Gaura.

Prabhupada: HE ALWAYS USED TO SAY TO SRIDHARA MAHARAJA THAT "YOU ARE SEEING

ABHAY BABU AS GRHASTHA, BUT HE IS MORE THAN MANY YOGIS." HE WAS TELLING.

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Prabhupada: He cannot make any comment. These are facts. Two parties there were.

One party, to use guru as their instrument for self-aggrandizement, and another

party left guru. So both of them are offenders. This Kunja Babu, this Tirtha

Maharaja's party, he wanted to enjoy senses through guru. And the Bagh Bazaar

party, they left.

Tamala Krsna: Vasudeva.

Prabhupada: So both of them are severe offenders.

Tamala Krsna: What about Sridhara Maharaja?

Prabhupada: SRIDHARA MAHARAJA BELONGED TO THE BAGH BAZAAR PARTY. And I was

living aloof. My Guru Maharaja approved. He said, "It is better that he is

aloof from them."

Tamala Krsna: He could understand that his disciples were not...

Prabhupada: No, he was very sorry. AT THE LAST STAGE HE WAS DISGUSTED.

72-08-26. Letter: Gaurasundara

All along I HAVE BEEN DISCOURAGED IN EVERY WAY BY MY GODBROTHERS, but still I

have stuck to my duty, keeping my Spiritual Master always in front.

72-09-09. Letter: Krsna dasa

MY GODBROTHERS ALWAYS DISCOURAGED ME BUT I DID NOT GIVE UP, I am doing my duty

and always keeping my spiritual master in front. Even there is some difficulty

or hardship, or even my godbrothers may not cooperate or there may be fighting,

still, I must perform my duty to my spiritual master and not become discouraged

and go away, that is my weakness.

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Prabhupada: Daily night. And he was shocked. ONE OF MY GAUDIYA MATHA

GODBROTHERS, BIG, HE BECAME THE HEAD OF THIS BHAG BAZAAR GAUDIYA MATHA. So his

wife was debauched, and she was bringing new paramour, and the child protested.

Pusta Krsna: New?

Prabhupada: Paramour. And the boy, he was ten years or twelve years old, he

could understand: "Who is this man?" So he protested and said, "I shall tell

all these things to my father." And he was killed.

Pusta Krsna: The boy was killed?

Prabhupada: By the mother.

Hari-sauri: She murdered him?

Prabhupada: Yes. Killed means given poison. And the father, that is, my

Godbrother, seeing this, he also took poison. This is the end of Gaudiya Matha

scandal. He was also one of the trustees. This Tirtha Maharaja was a trustee,

and another Godbrother and this man. In the beginning, they were made trustees.

In the beginning, Prabhupada was to undergo surgical operation. So he was a

little nervous, that "I may die." So he made a scrap paper, that "In case I

die, these three disciples will be trustees of the Gaudiya Matha Institute."

That's all. So this Kunja Babu kept this. There are many long histories. SO ONE

OF THE SO-CALLED TRUSTEES WAS THIS VASUDEVA. So he died, his end was like this.

Pusta Krsna: His son was killed, isn't it?

Prabhupada: His wife was a regular prostitute, and she killed her child, and on

this shock, he took poison and died.

Pusta Krsna: He killed himself, oh.

Prabhupada: Naturally, he became shocked, that "This is my family life--the wife

is prostitute and son is killed. What is the value of my life?" This was his

spiritual realization. Just see. (laughs) AND HE WAS MADE THE CHIEF, AND ONE OF

THE SUPPORTER WAS SRIDHARA MAHARAJA.

Pusta Krsna: Vasudeva Sridhara?

Prabhupada: No, no. He was made chief. Guru Maharaja did not make him chief. But

after his passing away, some of our Godbrothers voted him chief.

Pusta Krsna: Am I mis...? You had told me once, I'm not certain. Maybe I made a

mistake. YOU SAID THAT VASUDEVA, IT WAS KNOWN FACT THAT HE WAS HOMOSEX?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Pusta Krsna: Vasudeva.

Prabhupada: HE WAS HOMOSEX AND SEX, EVERYTHING.

68-02-17. Letter: Pradyumna

REGARDING THE BOOK LIST: "LORD GAURANGA" BY S.K. GHOSE AND VEDER PANCHAYA BY BON

MAHARAJA ARE USELESS AND YOU MAY NOT GET THEM. The other books and the Gaudiya

paper are acceptable. If you have free use of Xerox machine you may make

copies, of some of the smaller works. REGARDING BHAKTI PURI, TIRTHA MAHARAJA,

THEY ARE MY GOD-BROTHERS AND SHOULD BE SHOWN RESPECT. BUT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE

ANY INTIMATE CONNECTION WITH THEM AS THEY HAVE GONE AGAINST THE ORDERS OF MY

GURU MAHARAJA.

72-11-21. Letter: Niranjana

If you are serious to be an important assistant in our Society you should fully

engage yourself in translation work, AND DO NOT MIX YOURSELF WITH MY SO-CALLED

GOD-BROTHERS. AS THERE ARE IN VRINDABAN SOME RESIDENTS LIKE MONKEYS AND HOGS,

SIMILARLY THERE ARE MANY RASCALS IN THE NAME OF VAISNAVAS, be careful of them.

And do not dare to question imprudently before your Spiritual Master. Further

talks we may discuss when we meet.

730921r2.bom Conversations

Prabhupada: Yes. If by the dress of sannyasi, you take some money and eat and

sleep, then it is transcendental fraud. (SP laughs) (Hindi) Just like others

are toiling, and we are getting money by some dress. That's all. They are

getting money by laboring hard, and we are getting money... In India, mostly

the sannyasis, they do that. The priests also, they do that. This is our

profession, just... My Guru Maharaja said that thakura dekhiye paya rasta

karache, rastaye 'yandiya jivika badram karam bhari (?). Instead of earning

livelihood by showing the Deity in the temple, it is better to take the

profession of a sweeper in the street and live honestly. He said like that. The

sweeper is working hard toiling and getting some money and living. This is

honest living. But just like in Vrndavana, all the Goswamis. They have got

their Deity. People are coming, contributing. Typical example, Gauracanda

Goswami. Thakura dekhiye paisa rasta. (?) All the sevaites, they are meant

for... Our Kunja Babu also planned like that. He thought, "By cheating all the

God-brothers, I have got now Caitanya Matha. And people will come to see

Caitanya Mahaprabhu's birthplace, and I will get good income. And it will be

distributed amongst my brothers and sons and myself. That's all." That is his

scheme.

Tamala Krsna: Perfect material plan.

Prabhupada: Yes. It is another way of earning money. And he was always after

Guru Maharaja only for this purpose. Guru Maharaja took that "Oh, this man is

helping me." But he had no such plan, to help Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. He had

the plan, "Keep Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati in front, earn money, and put it in my

pocket." That was his very beginning. He was taking money like anything. But he

was a good manager. Other God-brothers complained, sannyasis. Guru Maharaja

used to say that "Why you are complaining? You cannot reform him, your

God-brother? And if I would have to keep expert manager like him, I would have

to pay something. Suppose he is taking something, why do you grudge?"

(Prabhupada laughing) He would say like that. So nobody could say anything. But

after the demise, everything burst out. "Kunja Babu must be driven out." That

was the whole plan of Gaudiya Matha breakdown. The grudge was against Kunja

Babu.

Tamala Krsna: Who is Kunja Babu?

Prabhupada: That Tirtha Maharaja. His name is Kunja Vihari Sar. So that was

boiling in everyone's heart. So as soon as Guru Maharaja passed away, so that

burst out. And the whole plan was how to get out this Kunja Babu.

Tamala Krsna: Not how to preach.

Prabhupada: No. This was the cause of breakdown. This was suppressed by Guru

Maharaja under his influence, but the rebellious was there during his lifetime.

And it burst into... Therefore he advised that "You make a governing body and

Kunja Babu should be allowed to remain manager." This was directly spoken. He

never asked anybody to become acarya. He asked that "You form a governing body

of twelve men and go on preaching, and Kunja Babu may be allowed to remain

manager during his lifetime." HE NEVER SAID THAT KUNJA BABU SHOULD BE ACARYA.

NONE, NONE OF THEM WERE ADVISED BY GURU MAHARAJA TO BECOME ACARYA. HIS IDEA WAS

"LET THEM MANAGE; THEN WHOEVER WILL BE ACTUAL QUALIFIED FOR BECOMING ACARYA,

THEY WILL ELECT. WHY I SHOULD ENFORCE UPON THEM?" THAT WAS HIS PLAN. "LET THEM

MANAGE BY STRONG GOVERNING BODY, AS IT IS GOING ON. THEN ACARYA WILL COME BY

HIS QUALIFICATIONS." But they wanted that... Because at heart, they were,

"After demise of Guru, I shall become acarya.I shall become acarya." So all

the acaryas began fight. One side, that Vasudeva Acarya and Sar Kunja Babu

Acarya. And Paramananda, he thought that "Whoever will be powerful, I shall

join them." (laughing) He only thought. But Guru Maharaja never asked that

these three men should be trustees. He wanted governing body. So the rebellion

broke out immediately after his passing away. And then fight in the High Court.

And Kunja Babu, he is very intelligent man. So from the very beginning he knew

that "There will be fight after the demise of Guru Maharaja. So fight will be

in the High Court. So at the expense of Guru Maharaja, let my brother and sons

become attorneys and barrister so I will have not to pay all these things." It

was a planned thing. And that is being done. He was a clerk, it was not in his

power to make his brother and sons attorneys and barristers. They were all made

at the cost of Gaudiya Matha to fight with (indistinct) in favor of Tirtha

Maharaja. These were the planned things. But I was a rotten grhastha. I did not

join any one of them. (Prabhupada laughs) I was rotting in my household life.

That's all. But I was planning how to make, how to make this. That was my

desire from the very beginning, since I heard it. But I was never with them,

either this party or that party. And Guru Maharaja also recommended, apnader

tasturi tublia thaki bhavan. Takhona (?). "When there will be need, he will do

himself. There is no need of living with you. It is better to live apart from

you." When I was recommended by Goswami Maharaja to live in the Matha, that "He

is so nice." Sometimes he recommended. In Bombay, here in this Bombay. That

house. Yes. He (Guru Maharaja) said "Yes, he is very expert. He can do. So it

is better to live apart from you. And he will do everything when there is

need." He said. I could not understand. Although I was apart from them, a

grhastha. In this Bombay I was doing business. (people talking outside)

72-08-29.Gur Letter: Gurudasa

Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated August 23,

1972, and I have noted the contents carefully. Do not be depressed. ALL ALONG

MY GODBROTHERS GAVE ME ONLY DEPRESSION, REPRESSION, COMPRESSION--BUT I

CONTINUED STRONG IN MY DUTY.

EVOL.SYA The Evolutionists: Philosophy

Prabhupada: UNLESS YOU SURRENDER, WHERE IS THE COOPERATION? Where is the

cooperation? Just like all my disciples, because they have surrendered, so

there is cooperation. Therefore this movement is increasing.

65-11-08.Tir Letter: Tirtha Maharaja

Kindly accept respectful obeisances at your lotus feet. Since I have come to the

United States of America I had several correspondence with Sripada Govinda

Maharaja. While I was in Calcutta at that time as well as in our different

exchange of letters there was some hint from Sripada Govinda Maharaja, I should

work in cooperation with your holiness and in my last letter I have already

expressed my readiness to cooperate with your holiness and I had to ask from

Govinda Maharaja as to the basic principle of that cooperation. BEFORE I TOOK

SANNYASA PERHAPS YOU WILL REMEMBER IT THAT I PROPOSED TO JOIN YOU IF MY

PUBLICATIONS WERE TAKEN UP. BUT SOME HOW OR OTHER IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE AND WE

MISSED THE CHANCE

..71-02-23.Jay Letter: Jayapataka

SO FAR AS COOPERATING WITH MY GODBROTHERS IS CONCERNED, THAT IS NOT VERY URGENT

BUSINESS. SO FAR UNTIL NOW MY GODBROTHERS HAVE REGULARLY NOT COOPERATED WITH ME

AND BY THE GRACE OF MY SPIRITUAL MASTER, THINGS ARE STILL GOING AHEAD. SO

COOPERATION OR NON-COOPERATION, IT IS THE DESIRE OF BHAKTIVINODE THAKURA TO

PREACH THE CAITANYA CULT ALL OVER THE WORLD AND IN 1875 HE PREDICTED THAT

SOMEONE WOULD COME VERY SOON WHO WOULD INDIVIDUALLY PREACH THIS CULT ALL OVER

THE WORLD. SO IF HIS BENEDICTION IS THERE AND MY GURU MAHARAJA'S BLESSINGS ARE

THERE, WE CAN GO AHEAD WITHOUT ANY IMPEDIMENT BUT ALL OF US MUST BE VERY

SINCERE AND SERIOUS. We have been a little inflicted by public criticism that

we Godbrothers do not work together. My Guru Maharaja wanted also us to work

together but some how or other it hasn't happened up until now. So your program

of cooperating with Madhava Maharaja is not so important. Best thing is that all

we Godbrothers work together. Then the criticism will stop, otherwise even we

join together, criticism will go on. So this has been going on for the last 24

years, but everyone of us is doing his best keeping Lord Caitanya in the

center. We should be satisfied so much.

74-06-08.Acy Letter: Acyutananda

You should not write anything to Madhava Maharaja's camp. You may have talked

many things with Mangala Niloy but why write him in black and white. The letter

must not be sent. THEIR POLICY HAS BEEN ALL ALONG TO SUPPRESS ME AND TAKE CREDIT

FOR HIMSELF. THEIR PROPOSAL FOR COOPERATION IS A MYTH. THEY HAVEN'T DONE

ANYTHING WHICH IS COOPERATIVE. YOU KNOW IN A RECENT ARTICLE THEY MANAGED TO

WRITE IN SUCH A WAY THAT MADHAVA IS DOING THE WORLD MOVEMENT AND WE ARE HIS

SUBORDINATE. FROM THE BEGINNING THAT HAS BEEN THEIR MENTALITY. SO THERE IS NO

POSSIBILITY OF COOPERATION WITH THEM. RATHER YOU SHOULD AVOID STRICTLY MEETING

WITH THEM. THEY ARE NOT AFTER PREACHING BUT MATERIAL GAIN AND REPUTATION AND

ADORATION. OTHERWISE WHY THEY ARE NON COOPERATING WITH ME? SO NO COOPERATION IS

POSSIBLE. Do not think or indulge in loose talks. Be careful always. Let us do

the duty of propagation sincerely and seriously on our own principles. Krsna

and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura are our only hope and

they and helping us. If anything thing has to be done it is to be talked on the

higher level between Madhava Maharaja and myself, but I know his mentality is

different and there is no possibility of cooperation.

68-02-17. Letter: Pradyumna

Regarding the book list: "Lord Gauranga" by S.K. Ghose and Veder Panchaya by Bon

Maharaja ARE USELESS and you may not get them.

73-11-14. Letter: Sukadeva

Regarding the Gaudiya Math books being circulated there, who is distributing?

Who is sending these books? The Gaudiya Math does not sell our books, why we

should sell their books. Who has introduced these books? Let me know. THESE

BOOKS SHOULD NOT AT ALL BE CIRCULATED IN OUR SOCIETY. BHAKTI VILAS TIRTHA IS

VERY MUCH ANTAGONISTIC TO OUR SOCIETY AND HE HAS NO CLEAR CONCEPTION OF

DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. HE IS CONTAMINATED. ANYWAY, WHO HAS INTRODUCED THESE BOOKS?

YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD READ ONLY ONE BOOK IF THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD WRITTEN, SO

YOU TEACH OTHERS TO DO LIKE THAT. You have very good determination.

75-11-09. Letter: Visvakarma

Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated September

3, 1975 with the enclosed statement about Van Maharaja. So I have now issued

orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. THEY SHOULD

NOT HAVE ANY DEALINGS WITH THEM NOR EVEN CORRESPONDENCE, NOR SHOULD THEY GIVE

THEM ANY OF MY BOOKS OR SHOULD THEY PURCHASE ANY OF THEIR BOOKS, NEITHER SHOULD

YOU VISIT ANY OF THEIR TEMPLES. PLEASE AVOID THEM.

 

SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING THIS ORDER OF GURU MAHARAJA

In the following letter Srila Prabhupada gives a HUGE amount of information.

1) Notice how he gives Sridhara Maharaja –credit—for ONLY--- HE EXECUTES THE

REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES—so we can understand Sridhara Maharaja was NOT on prema

bhakti level---this is why Srila Prabhupada again says AMONGST MY GODBROTHERS

NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. How can a person disobey the Guru and

become Guru?

2) Srila Prabhupada KNEW the mentality of his "disciples" FULLY well—this is why

he says THEREFORE WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP—they all

had the same ACARYA disease. As a Representative of the Supersoul –he could

FULLY understand their desire to be worshipped as ACARYA---but as the

Bhagavad–Gita says from lust rises anger then memory is bewildered then

–intelligence is lost----so they went to the extent of poisoning Srila

Prabhupada---to grab the "ACARYA" disease.

74-04-28. Letter: Rupanuga

You are right about Sridhara Maharaja's genuineness. But in my opinion he is the

best of the lot. He is my old friend, AT LEAST HE EXECUTES THE REGULATIVE

PRINCIPLES OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. I do not wish to discuss about activities of

my Godbrothers but it is a fact they have no life for preaching work. All are

satisfied with a place for residence in the name of a temple, they engage

disciples to get foodstuff by transcendental devices and eat and sleep. They

have no idea or brain how to broacast the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. My

Guru Maharaja used to lament many times for this reason and he thought if one

man at least had understood the principle of preaching then his mission would

achieve success. In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted.

Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live

for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body

for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. HE NEVER RECOMMENDED ANYONE TO BE

ACARYA OF THE GAUDIYA MATH. BUT SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DISOBEYING

THIS ORDER OF GURU MAHARAJA, AND HE AND OTHERS WHO ARE ALREADY DEAD

UNNECESSARILY THOUGHT THAT THERE MUST BE ONE ACARYA. If Guru Maharaja could

have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have

mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many

things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be

nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct

the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out

successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So

Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one

acarya and later it proved a failure. THE RESULT IS NOW EVERYONE IS CLAIMING TO

BE ACARYA EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE KANISTHA ADHIKARI WITH NO ABILITY TO PREACH.

IN SOME OF THE CAMPS THE ACARYA IS BEING CHANGED THREE TIMES A YEAR. THEREFORE

WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP. ACTUALLY AMONGST MY

GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. SO IT IS BETTER NOT TO MIX

WITH MY GODBROTHERS VERY INTIMATELY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF INSPIRING OUR STUDENTS

AND DISCIPLES THEY MAY SOMETIMES POLLUTE THEM. This attempt was made previously

by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but

somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very

careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all.

They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our

natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.

74-10-15. Letter: Subala

This is the motto of our spiritual life: yasya prasadad bhagavata prasadao. MY

OTHER GODBROTHERS THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH LITIGATIONS, POLITICS, AND DIPLOMACY,

SO WHAT IS THE PRACARA? AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED I HAVE THE BLESSINGS OF MY GURU

MAHARAJ. I DO NOT NEED ANYTHING ELSE. That is how I went to your country, just

to try to carry out his order. By his blessings it has come out successful.

74-10-18. Letter: Gangamayi

YOU ARE RIGHT THAT POLITICS SHOULD BE AVOIDED. IN MY PERSONAL LIFE I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN THE POLITICAL DIPLOMACY OF MY GOD-BROTHERS. I WAS SIMPLY

THINKING HOW TO FULFILL THE ORDER OF MY GURU MAHARAJ. HE GAVE ME HIS BLESSINGS,

AND I WAS SAVED FROM ANY IMPLICATION. NOW I AM TRYING TO CARRY OUT HIS

INSTRUCTIONS STRICTLY, AND IT HAS COME OUT SUCCESSFUL.

ONE WHO IS ACCEPTING DISCIPLINE FROM SRILA PRABHUPADA IS SRILA PRABHUPADA'S

DISCIPLE.Note: we are ALL being DISCIPLINED by Srila Prabhupada (we

receiveinstructions---(discipline) from Srila Prabhupada's books.The MEANING of

the word "disciple"760308mw.mayPrabhupäda: Discipline... Disciple means

discipline. The word discipline comes from disciple, or disciple comes from

discipline. So unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple.

This discipline must... That should be uniform. Otherwise, sisya... sisya, the

word sisya, it comes from the root, verb, säs-dhätu. säs. säs means ruling.

>From this word, sasana. Sasana means government. sästra. säshtra means weapon,

and sästra, scripture, and sisya... These things have come from the one root

säs-dhätu.So säs-dhätu means ruling under discipline. There is another English

word, that "Obedience is the first law of discipline," or something. They say,

"Obedience is the first law of discipline"? So I am right? "Obedience is..."?

That is the...Tamäla Krsna: Yes, that's more or less what it is.Prabhupäda: No,

what is the word, exact. There is an English word."Obedience is the first law of

discipline." So unless there is obedience, there cannot be any discipline. And

unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. DISCIPLE MEANS

ONE WHO FOLLOWS DISCIPLINE.Discipline comes from Srila PrabhupadaNOTE: we are

actually being diciplined by Srila Prabhupada. It is SrilaPrabhupada who has

given us the regulative principles of no meat,fish or eggs; no

intoxication(including tea and coffee), no illicit sex, and no gambling. It is

Srila Prabhupada who has made it a regulative principle for us to chant sixteen

rounds on the beads HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE /HARE RAMA HARE

RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE. Srila Prabhupada's books contain all the

instructions, the guidancerequired for us to get ourselves out of the clutches

of the modes ofmaterial nature. Infact Srila prabhupada is personally present

as hisbooks.CC Adi CH1 TEXT 35"There is NO DIFFERENCE between the spiritual

masters instructions and the spiritual master himself".Note:since the

instructions of the spiritual master and the spiritualmaster are not different

one can be the disciple of Srila Prabhupada byfollowing his discipline and can

be considered Srila Prabhupada's disciple. Another point is he can be

considered both direct disciple and not direct simultaneously because Srila

Prabhupada is still present in his instruction form(his books) The following

example will illustrate the point.Srila Krsnadasa kaviraja is the example of

both direct and not direct disciple simultaneously.(THE PHILOSOPHY OF

SIMULTANEOUS ONENESS ANDDIFFERENCE).CC ADI CH 1A direct disciple of Srila Rüpa

Gosvämi was Srila Raghunätha däsa Gosvämi. The author of Sri

Caitanya-caritämrta, Srila Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi, stands as the DIRECT

DISCIPLE of Srila Rüpa Gosvämi and Srila Raghunätha däsa Gosvämi. The direct

disciple of Srila Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi was Srila Narottama däsa Thäkura,

who accepted Srila Visvanätha Cakravarti as his servitor. Srila Visvanätha

Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannätha däsa Bäbäji, who initiated Srila

Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn initiated Srila Gaurakishore däsa Bäbäji, the

spiritual master of Om Visnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati Gosvämi

Mahäräja, the divine master of our humbleself. Since we belong to this chain of

disciplic succession from Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu, this edition of Sri

Caitanya-caritämrta will contain nothing newly manufactured by our tiny brains,

but only remnants of food originally eaten by the Lord Himself.CC Antya

19.102Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi was not actually a direct disciple of Srila

Rüpa Gosvämi, but he FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS given by Srila Rüpa Gosvämi in

Bhakti-rasämrta-sindhu. He therefore ACTED ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS of Rüpa

Gosvämi and prayed in every chapter for his mercy."WHO IS SRILA PRABHUPAD'S

DISCIPLE?760613mw.detPrabhupäda: Who is my disciple? First of all let him

FOLLOW STRICTLY THE DISCIPLINED RULES.Devotee (2): As long as one is following,

then he is...Prabhupäda: Then he is all right.SPL 72-09-21 BhaktijanaYou do not

require to worry as I shall never leave you, you are my disciple and I am your

spiritual master, so there is no question, AS LONG AS you follow my

instructions, that I shall ever leave you. Just remember under all

circumstances to chant sixteen rounds of japa daily, offer your prasadam to

Krsna, and do all of the things which you already know, as you are senior

disciple. These things will protect you under all conditions, without any

doubt.SPL 75-11-07 MadhudvisaSO LONG AS one follows the principles, he

continues to be my disciple.SPL 75-11-09 Tusta KrsnaSO LONG AS one continues to

follow the rules and regulations, he continues to be my disciple wherever he may

be.SPL 69-07-09Out of the ten kinds of offenses, the number one offense is to

disobey the orders of the Spiritual Master. The instructions given to the

disciple by the Spiritual Master at the time of initiation should be strictly

followed. That will make one advance to the spiritual path. But if one

deliberately defies such instructions, then his advancement is hampered from

the very beginning. THIS DEFYING MEANS TO DISCONNECT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

SPIRITUAL MASTER. AND ANYONE WHO DEFIES AND THEREFORE DISCONNECTS THE

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SPIRITUAL MASTER can hardly expect the assistance of the

Spiritual Master life after life.SPL Cidananda 73-11-25Please always try to

REMEMBER ME BY MY TEACHINGS AND WE SHALL ALWAYS BETOGETHER. Just like I have

written in the first publications ofSrimad-Bhagavatam, "The spiritual Master

lives forever by His divineinstruction and the disciple lives with him.",

because I have alwaysserved my Guru Maharaja and followed His teachings I am

now even neverseparated from Him. Sometimes Maya may come and try to interfere

but wemust not falter, we must always follow the chalked out path layed down by

the great acharya's and in the end you will see.Who is NOT Prabhupada's

disciple?Initiation does not bear any meaningSPL 70-01-11Regarding your

question of an initiated person falling prey to the maya, the answer is that so

long we are in this material world, there is always chance of being spoiled by

Maya, so we must stick with vow to the Lotus Feet of Krishna. An initiated

devotee is given the chance for becoming free from the entanglement of karma

wheel. Initiated means beginning, not perfection. The Spiritual Master's

business is to guide him to the perfectional point. But if one does not

strictly follow the guidance of a bonafide Spiritual Master HIS INITIATION DOES

NOT BEAR ANY MEANING. The initiation performance is an agreement by the

disciples to abide by the order of the Spiritual Master. Therefore, if the

Spiritual Master is bonafide and the disciple is serious to abide by His order,

then the success is sure.Otherwise they are NOT my disciplesSPL 76-0217 Raja

LaksmiMy advise is always chant 16 rounds minimum and follow the four

regulative principles. All of my disciples must agree on this point OTHERWISE

THEY ARE NOT MY DISCIPLES.

Note: it has become a norm among the sahajiya’s like Narayana Maharaja to call

himself a siksa disciple of Srila Prabhupada and still have beard and hair

unshaved. Srila Prabhupada clearly rejects this behaviour. Against the

principleSPL76-07-17 DhrstaketuUnless absolutely necessary, one should keep

head shaven and not allow the hair to grow long. If absolutely necessary, one

can dress like an American gentleman, with short hair, but long hair is

prohibited. The reason that one with long hair is not my disciple is because he

is AGAINST THE PRINCIPLE. Unless absolutely necessary one should keep hair

short, and if necessary one can dress like an American gentleman with short

hair. It is not expected that everyone will join. For that reason we can't

compromise. The tendency is there to be hippy. When the acaryas are seen with

beard, that is during Caturmasya, July-September. If observed strictly there is

not simply a beard. There are so many rules and regulations. One can't eat a

variety of foods. Only kitri prepared and poured on the floor, and then licked

up. There are so many other rules also. THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT THEY KEPT

BEARD.Disciple in name onlySPL 760710MW.NYPrabhupäda: And the Bon Mahäräja is

his follower. HE'S IN NAME a disciple of Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati, BUT HE'S A

SERVANT OF Vivekananda.Tamäla Krsna: He's very similar to him.Prabhupäda: He's

a great appreciator of Vivekananda. He has put in hiscurriculum Vivekananda

philosophy, Gandhi philosophy. Rascal, whatphilosophy they have got?STEALING

SRILA PRABHUPADA'S DISCIPLES, HIS PROPERTIES FOR ONESELF(BECOMING SELF MADE

GURU---APPOINTMENT BY 2/3 MAJORITY VOTES) HAVE GRAVE CONSEQUENCES:KB 64 The

Story of King NrgaAt this time, Lord Krsna was present among His relatives who

weremembers of the ksatriya class. To teach them through the exemplarycharacter

of King Nrga, He said, "Even though a ksatriya king may be aspowerful as fire,

it is not possible for him to usurp the property of abrahmana and utilize it

for his own purpose. If this is so, how canordinary kings, who falsely think of

themselves as the most powerful beings within the material world, usurp a

brahmana's property? I do not think that taking poison is as dangerous as

taking a brahmana's property. For ordinary poison there is treatment--one can

be relieved from its effects; but if one drinks the poison of taking a

brahmana's property, there is no remedy for the mistake.THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS

KING NRGA. HE WAS VERY POWERFUL AND VERY PIOUS, BUT DUE TO THE SMALL MISTAKE OF

UNKNOWINGLY USURPING A BRAHMANA'S COW, HE WAS CONDEMNED TO THE ABOMINABLE LIFE

OF A LIZARD. Ordinary poison affects only those who drink it, and ordinary fire

can be extinguished simply by pouring water on it; BUT THE ARANI FIRE IGNITED BY

THE SPIRITUAL POTENCY OF A BRAHMANA CAN BURN TO ASHES THE WHOLE FAMILY OF A

PERSON WHO PROVOKES SUCH A BRAHMANA." (Formerly, the brahmanas used to ignite

the fire of sacrifice not with matches or any other external fire but with

their powerful mantras, called arani.) "IF SOMEONE EVEN TOUCHES A BRAHMANA'S

PROPERTY, HE IS RUINED FOR THREE GENERATIONS. HOWEVER, IF A BRAHMANA'S PROPERTY

IS FORCIBLY TAKEN AWAY, THE TAKER'S FAMILY FOR TEN GENERATIONS BEFORE HIM AND

TEN GENERATIONS AFTER HIM WILL BECOME SUBJECT TO RUINATION. On the other hand,

if someone becomes a Vaisnava, or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his

family before his birth and ten generations after will become liberated."Lord

Krsna continued: "If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige

and power wants to usurp a brahmana's property, it should be understood that

such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to

suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very

liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a

usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this

hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of

life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A

BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS

MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL.THEREFORE I INSTRUCT YOU, ALL MY BOYS AND

RELATIVES PRESENT HERE, DO NOT,EVEN BY MISTAKE, TAKE THE POSSESSION OF A

BRAHMANA AND THEREBY POLLUTE YOUR WHOLE FAMILY. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO

POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONE ATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE

DURATION OF HIS LIFE WILL BEREDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND

AFTER BEING BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL

BECOME A SERPENT. ASERPENT GIVES TROUBLE TO ALL OTHER LIVING ENTITIES. My dear

boys andrelatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes

angrywith you and calls you by ill names or curses you, still you should

notretaliate. On the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your

respects to the brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My

obeisances to the brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should

therefore follow My instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who

does not follow them, and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example

of King Nrga that even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana,

he is put into a miserable condition of life."

Note: It has been a common practice among Srila Prabhupada's Godbrothers to

steal Srila Prabhupada's disciples by trickery. Sridhra Maharaja, Puri Maharaja

is also known to have re-initiated Srila Prabhupada's disciples. Narayana

maharaja is also culprit to this deplorable unvaisnava offensive insulting

conduct. This act prove they conditioned souls.

ALL GLORIES TO OUR BONAFIDE JAGAT DIKSA AND SIKSA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!HARE

KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE/ HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA

HARE HARE.RITVIK--REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING

INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION.Madhya 24.330

Similarly, a disciple's qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master

before he is accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna consciousness movement, the

requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful

life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries

especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow

the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaisnava servant and

initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily.

In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the

spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. He is

then recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is

offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brahmana.Note:we know that

without becoming a Mahabhagavata it is an offense against the chanting of the

holy name(3rd offense in chanting) to be worshipped as good as God(Acarya).

Ritvik --the representative of the acarya allows for this function of

worshipping the acarya (Prabhupada) without slaughtering the spiritual lives of

others. Madhya 24.330 When one has attained the topmost position of

maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru AND WORSHIPED EXACTLY LIKE HARI,

the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF

A GURU.Srila Prabhupada is REVEALING HIS POSITION AS THE JAGAD-GURU(SPIRITUAL

MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD). It is Prabhupada that has distributed the holy

name(thru his books) all over the world. Krishna is His pure devotee

Prabhupada'sproperty to give.Antya 7.12 "in the Dvapara-yuga one could satisfy

Krsna or Visnu only by worshiping opulently according to the pancaratriki

system, but in the age of Kali one can satisfy and worship the Supreme

Personality of Godhead Hari simply by chanting His holy name." Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura explains that unless one is directly

empowered by the causeless mercy of Krsna, one cannot become the SPIRITUAL

MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD (JAGAD-GURU). One cannot become an acarya simply by

mental speculation. The true acarya presents Krsna to everyone by preaching the

holy name of the Lord throughout the world. Thus the conditioned souls, purified

by chanting the holy name, are liberated from the blazing fire of material

existence. In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the

waxing moon in the sky. THE TRUE ACARYA, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE ENTIRE

WORLD, MUST BE CONSIDERED AN INCARNATION OF KRSNA'S MERCY. INDEED, HE IS

PERSONALLY EMBRACING KRSNA. HE IS THEREFORE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE

VARNAS (BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA, VAISYA AND SUDRA) AND ALL THE ASRAMAS (BRAHMACARYA,

GRHASTHA, VANAPRASTHA AND SANNYASA). Since he is understood to be the most

advanced devotee, he is called paramahamsa-thakura. Thakura is a title of honor

offered to the paramahamsa. Therefore one who acts as an acarya, directly

presenting Lord Krsna by spreading His name and fame, is also to be called

paramahamsa-thakura."Representative of the acarya" is also mentioned SIMILARLY

in (CC24.330madhya)---this is the secret. Ritvik is the SAME.Madhya 8.100 The

name Radha is derived from this verse (Bhag. 10.30.28), from thewords

anayaradhitah, meaning "by Her the Lord is worshiped." Sometimes the critics of

Srimad-Bhagavatam find it difficult to find Radharani's holy name, BUT THE

SECRET IS DISCLOSED HERE IN THE WORD ARADHITAH, FROM WHICH THE NAME RADHA HAS

COME. Of course, the name of Radharani is directly mentioned in other Puranas.

This gopi's worship of Krsna is topmost, and therefore Her name is Radha, or

the topmost worshiper.77-07-09.All Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple

PresidentsPlease accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all

ofthe GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada

indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as

"RITVIK--REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING

INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION. His Divine Grace has

so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:His

Holiness Kirtanananda SwamiHis Holiness Satsvarupa dasa GosvamiHis Holiness

Jayapataka SwamiHis Holiness Tamala Krsna GosvamiHis Holiness Hrdayananda

GosvamiHis Holiness Bhavananda GosvamiHis Holiness Hamsaduta SwamiHis Holiness

Ramesvara SwamiHis Holiness Harikesa SwamiHis Grace Bhagavan dasa AdhikariHis

Grace Jayatirtha dasa AdhikariIn the past Temple Presidents have written to

Srila Prabhupadarecommending a particular devotee's initiation. Now that Srila

PRABHUPADA HAS NAMED THESE REPRESENTATIVES, Temple Presidents may henceforward

send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these

eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the

recommendation, THESE REPRESENTATIVES MAY ACCEPT THE DEVOTEE AS AN INITIATED

DISCIPLE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of

second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada

has done. THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C.

BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His

representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these

representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the

fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly

initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or

her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's "Initiated

Disciples" book.Srila Prabhupada’s signature appears in the original

Note: this July 9th 1977 letter was NEVER REVOKED BY SRILA PRABHUPADA. This

being the case ALL THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE

GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD for as long as ISKCON EXISTS.

Note: A History below was compiled by another devotee which shows Srila Prabhupada's intentions.

 

History:

July 9th, 1977 - "Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives,

Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second

initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their

temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept

the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual

name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread,

just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples

of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior

devotees acting as His representative."

(Srila Prabhupada’s final signed Directive describing the initiation system to

be followed in ISKCON, sent to all GBC's and Temple Presidents)

July 11th, 1977 - "A letter has been sent to all the Temple Presidents and GBC

which you should be receiving soon describing the process for initiation to be

followed in the future. Srila Prabhupada has appointed thus far eleven

representatives who will initiate new devotees on His behalf."

(Letter from Tamala Krishna Goswami to Kirtananda describing the above system)

July 19th, 1977 - "Make your own field and continue to be ritvik and act on my charge."

(Room Conversation, above dictated by Srila Prabhupada to his secretary Tamala Krishna Goswami)

July 31st, 1977 - "Make your own field and continue to become ritvik and act on my behalf."

(Above dictation sent out to Hamsaduta Swami by Tamala Krishna Goswami in a letter)

Nov 1977 - "The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change."

(Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the lifetime of ISKCON)

Nov 1977 - "In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the

said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the

remaining directors, provided the new director is my initiated disciple ..."

(Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the

lifetime of ISKCON. The above system of selecting directors can only work if

Srila Prabhupada's initiated disciples exist throughout ISKCON's lifetime.)