Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 Dear Mohan: The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great scriptures. Even among Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning of the Adam and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own understanding of which was immensely informed by study of Hinduism. My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened with Rushdie's "Satanic Verses." Regards, Ron Philo P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's two-volume Gita commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory. >> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>> ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000 "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi Fyi - An opportunity for activism ---- Original Message ----- Mohan Erra <ej_mohan <savitabena; <sanjaysuri; <ssandesh; <sngayen; <samsat99; <raviji; <bapat5; <draman; <ramn; <webmaster; <cg-shah; <rahulom; <r.sekhon; <pushpa_s; <pradip; <paraghsoni; <pankajpatel; <sami.p; <ram; <sudesh.sangray Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM Few minutes for India Dear Friends (if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for this mail) Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was happened in my University's societies fair. I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of North London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by arrange a stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the Islamic society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study". Out of interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines. then the president of Islamic society started to explain about Islam and Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic concept of Hinduism and What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in society with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we will meat again. After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he cut of the topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he came to our stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book completely and come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and felt very bad about the book. Here I am writing few lines from the book. 1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full of sexual allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and stories relating to venal love. (Page 23 sex and sex-worship) 2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well Known for its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his maternal uncle. (Same page) 3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter. Saraswati. (Same page) 4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a married woman, called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) 5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit poses of the sexual act. (Page 24) 6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with beautiful women and breeding illegitimate children. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) 7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be slaughtered by the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and offer it as sacrifice to their deities. (Page 26 Reverence for the Cow) 8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste system. It justified the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of contradictions. It legalised killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and addiction to alcohol. And so many things in the book from beginning to end this book was published in India, Author is from India. All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London Is in the book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail me. I would like to know how many people are want to take action against the Publisher, author and seller. We should take an action about this book in the court of law but not in other way. To stop this type of books in future I am waiting for your co-operation Jagan Mohan Erra ______________________ ______________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Dear Ron, That is precisely what we need. Hindus around the world need to know how sanatana dharma is being denigrated, and scriptures getting misinterpreted etc etc. Lack of such action will only bolden other people to do further damage. Lies told thousand times will become the truth (if not a fact) in public perception.... Being secure in one's beliefs is just not enough in Kali Yuga. -K P.S. Hi Dean.. its been a while since I got on this forum, been busy at other forum ;-) vediculture , "Ron Philo" <rphilo@k...> wrote: > Dear Mohan: > > The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great scriptures. Even among > Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning of the Adam > and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own understanding of which > was immensely informed by study of Hinduism. > > My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative > Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened with Rushdie's > "Satanic Verses." > > Regards, > Ron Philo > > P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's two-volume Gita > commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory. > > >> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>> > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000 > "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi@w...> > Fyi - An opportunity for activism > > ---- Original Message ----- > Mohan Erra <ej_mohan@h...> > <savitabena>; <sanjaysuri@c...>; > <ssandesh@a...>; <sngayen@s...>; <samsat99@h...>; > <raviji@t...>; <bapat5@h...>; <draman@l...>; > <ramn@a...>; <webmaster@t...>; > <cg-shah@d...>; > <rahulom@h...>; <r.sekhon@n...>; > <pushpa_s>; > <pradip@g...>; <paraghsoni@h...>; > <pankajpatel@m...>; <sami.p@b...>; > <ram@v...>; > <sudesh.sangray@l...> > Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM > Few minutes for India > > > Dear Friends > (if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for > this > mail) > > Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was > happened in my > University's societies fair. > I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of > North > London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by > arrange a > stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the > Islamic > society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study". Out > of > interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines. > then the president of Islamic society started to explain about > Islam and > Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic concept > of > Hinduism and > What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in > society > with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we > will meat > again. > After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he > cut of the > topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he > came to our > stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book > completely and > come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and > felt very > bad about the book. > Here I am writing few lines from the book. > > 1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full of > sexual > allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and stories > relating > to venal love. > (Page 23 sex and sex-worship) > 2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well > Known for > its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his > maternal > uncle. > (Same page) > > 3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter. > Saraswati. > (Same page) > 4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a married > woman, > called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) > 5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit > poses of > the sexual act. > (Page 24) > 6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with > beautiful > women and breeding illegitimate children. > (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) > 7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be > slaughtered by > the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and offer > it as > sacrifice to their deities. > (Page 26 Reverence for the Cow) > 8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste > system. > It justified > the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of > contradictions. > It legalised > killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and > addiction to > alcohol. > > And so many things in the book from beginning to end > > this book was published in India, Author is from India. > > All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London Is > in the > book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail me. > > I would like to know how many people are want to take action against > the > Publisher, author and seller. > We should take an action about this book in the court of law but not > in > other way. To stop this type of books in future > > I am waiting for your co-operation > Jagan Mohan Erra > > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 Dear Kalyan, I have to say that the idea of religious "activism" bothers me. I think that the only activism that matters is the active seeking of Self-realization. When one turns toward defending one's faith from perceived attack or misinterpretation, before one is firmly founded in direct experience of transcendence, it is too easy to fall into error. In fact, I surmise that the result will always be to delay one's attainment of the one true goal. Only true masters are entrusted by God with the task and the means of spreading realization. Chela's like me are just not qualified. Look at the life of Paramahansa Yogananda, for example. Even though fully realized, he did not spend his time attacking the errors of others but rather, he put forth the precepts which had been given him. He did try to pursuade others away from their ill-conceived viewpoints, but he didn't take them to court. (As an aside, it is true that Yogananda's master, Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri, did once take someone to court, but it had nothing to do with religious viewpoints. Someone tried to swindle him out of the ashram where he taught his young charges, and this is a different matter from that which we are discussing.) False masters, and I would, sadly, put the Ayatollah Khomeini in this group, do things like handing out death sentences in absentia to people like Salman Rushdie. Respectfully, Ron Message: 4 Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:40:09 -0000 "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi Re: An opportunity for activism Dear Ron, That is precisely what we need. Hindus around the world need to know how sanatana dharma is being denigrated, and scriptures getting misinterpreted etc etc. Lack of such action will only bolden other people to do further damage. Lies told thousand times will become the truth (if not a fact) in public perception.... Being secure in one's beliefs is just not enough in Kali Yuga. -K P.S. Hi Dean.. its been a while since I got on this forum, been busy at other forum ;-) vediculture , "Ron Philo" <rphilo@k...> wrote: > Dear Mohan: > > The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great scriptures. Even among > Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning of the Adam > and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own understanding of which > was immensely informed by study of Hinduism. > > My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative > Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened with Rushdie's > "Satanic Verses." > > Regards, > Ron Philo > > P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's two-volume Gita > commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory. > > >> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>> > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000 > "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi@w...> > Fyi - An opportunity for activism > > ---- Original Message ----- > Mohan Erra <ej_mohan@h...> > <savitabena>; <sanjaysuri@c...>; > <ssandesh@a...>; <sngayen@s...>; <samsat99@h...>; > <raviji@t...>; <bapat5@h...>; <draman@l...>; > <ramn@a...>; <webmaster@t...>; > <cg-shah@d...>; > <rahulom@h...>; <r.sekhon@n...>; > <pushpa_s>; > <pradip@g...>; <paraghsoni@h...>; > <pankajpatel@m...>; <sami.p@b...>; > <ram@v...>; > <sudesh.sangray@l...> > Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM > Few minutes for India > > > Dear Friends > (if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for > this > mail) > > Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was > happened in my > University's societies fair. > I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of > North > London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by > arrange a > stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the > Islamic > society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study". Out > of > interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines. > then the president of Islamic society started to explain about > Islam and > Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic concept > of > Hinduism and > What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in > society > with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we > will meat > again. > After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he > cut of the > topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he > came to our > stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book > completely and > come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and > felt very > bad about the book. > Here I am writing few lines from the book. > > 1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full of > sexual > allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and stories > relating > to venal love. > (Page 23 sex and sex-worship) > 2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well > Known for > its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his > maternal > uncle. > (Same page) > > 3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter. > Saraswati. > (Same page) > 4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a married > woman, > called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) > 5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit > poses of > the sexual act. > (Page 24) > 6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with > beautiful > women and breeding illegitimate children. > (Page 24 sex and sex-worship) > 7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be > slaughtered by > the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and offer > it as > sacrifice to their deities. > (Page 26 Reverence for the Cow) > 8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste > system. > It justified > the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of > contradictions. > It legalised > killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and > addiction to > alcohol. > > And so many things in the book from beginning to end > > this book was published in India, Author is from India. > > All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London Is > in the > book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail me. > > I would like to know how many people are want to take action against > the > Publisher, author and seller. > We should take an action about this book in the court of law but not > in > other way. To stop this type of books in future > > I am waiting for your co-operation > Jagan Mohan Erra > > > > > > > > ________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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