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Dear Mohan:

 

The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great scriptures. Even

among

Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning of the Adam

and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own understanding of which

was immensely informed by study of Hinduism.

 

My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative

Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened with

Rushdie's

"Satanic Verses."

 

Regards,

Ron Philo

 

P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's two-volume Gita

commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory.

 

>> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>>

 

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Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000

"Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi

Fyi - An opportunity for activism

 

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Mohan Erra <ej_mohan

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<ssandesh; <sngayen; <samsat99;

<raviji; <bapat5; <draman;

<ramn; <webmaster;

<cg-shah;

<rahulom; <r.sekhon;

<pushpa_s;

<pradip; <paraghsoni;

<pankajpatel; <sami.p;

<ram;

<sudesh.sangray

Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM

Few minutes for India

 

 

Dear Friends

(if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for

this

mail)

 

Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was

happened in my

University's societies fair.

I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of

North

London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by

arrange a

stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the

Islamic

society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study". Out

of

interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines.

then the president of Islamic society started to explain about

Islam and

Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic concept

of

Hinduism and

What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in

society

with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we

will meat

again.

After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he

cut of the

topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he

came to our

stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book

completely and

come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and

felt very

bad about the book.

Here I am writing few lines from the book.

 

1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full of

sexual

allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and stories

relating

to venal love.

(Page 23 sex and sex-worship)

2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well

Known for

its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his

maternal

uncle.

(Same page)

 

3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter.

Saraswati.

(Same page)

4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a married

woman,

called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit

poses of

the sexual act.

(Page 24)

6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with

beautiful

women and breeding illegitimate children.

(Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be

slaughtered by

the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and offer

it as

sacrifice to their deities.

(Page 26 Reverence for the Cow)

8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste

system.

It justified

the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of

contradictions.

It legalised

killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and

addiction to

alcohol.

 

And so many things in the book from beginning to end

 

this book was published in India, Author is from India.

 

All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London Is

in the

book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail me.

 

I would like to know how many people are want to take action against

the

Publisher, author and seller.

We should take an action about this book in the court of law but not

in

other way. To stop this type of books in future

 

I am waiting for your co-operation

Jagan Mohan Erra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ron,

 

That is precisely what we need. Hindus around the world need to know

how sanatana dharma is being denigrated, and scriptures getting

misinterpreted etc etc. Lack of such action will only bolden other

people to do further damage. Lies told thousand times will become the

truth (if not a fact) in public perception.... Being secure in one's

beliefs is just not enough in Kali Yuga.

 

-K

 

P.S. Hi Dean.. its been a while since I got on this forum, been busy

at other forum ;-)

 

 

 

 

vediculture , "Ron Philo" <rphilo@k...> wrote:

> Dear Mohan:

>

> The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great

scriptures. Even among

> Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning

of the Adam

> and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own

understanding of which

> was immensely informed by study of Hinduism.

>

> My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam

a Comparative

> Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened

with Rushdie's

> "Satanic Verses."

>

> Regards,

> Ron Philo

>

> P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's

two-volume Gita

> commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory.

>

> >> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>>

>

>

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> Message: 1

> Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000

> "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi@w...>

> Fyi - An opportunity for activism

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> Mohan Erra <ej_mohan@h...>

> <savitabena>; <sanjaysuri@c...>;

> <ssandesh@a...>; <sngayen@s...>; <samsat99@h...>;

> <raviji@t...>; <bapat5@h...>; <draman@l...>;

> <ramn@a...>; <webmaster@t...>;

> <cg-shah@d...>;

> <rahulom@h...>; <r.sekhon@n...>;

> <pushpa_s>;

> <pradip@g...>; <paraghsoni@h...>;

> <pankajpatel@m...>; <sami.p@b...>;

> <ram@v...>;

> <sudesh.sangray@l...>

> Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM

> Few minutes for India

>

>

> Dear Friends

> (if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for

> this

> mail)

>

> Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was

> happened in my

> University's societies fair.

> I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of

> North

> London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by

> arrange a

> stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the

> Islamic

> society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study".

Out

> of

> interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines.

> then the president of Islamic society started to explain about

> Islam and

> Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic

concept

> of

> Hinduism and

> What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in

> society

> with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we

> will meat

> again.

> After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he

> cut of the

> topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he

> came to our

> stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book

> completely and

> come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and

> felt very

> bad about the book.

> Here I am writing few lines from the book.

>

> 1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full

of

> sexual

> allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and

stories

> relating

> to venal love.

> (Page 23 sex and sex-worship)

> 2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well

> Known for

> its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his

> maternal

> uncle.

> (Same page)

>

> 3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter.

> Saraswati.

> (Same page)

> 4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a

married

> woman,

> called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

> 5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit

> poses of

> the sexual act.

> (Page 24)

> 6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with

> beautiful

> women and breeding illegitimate children.

> (Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

> 7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be

> slaughtered by

> the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and

offer

> it as

> sacrifice to their deities.

> (Page 26 Reverence for the Cow)

> 8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste

> system.

> It justified

> the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of

> contradictions.

> It legalised

> killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and

> addiction to

> alcohol.

>

> And so many things in the book from beginning to end

>

> this book was published in India, Author is from India.

>

> All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London

Is

> in the

> book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail

me.

>

> I would like to know how many people are want to take action

against

> the

> Publisher, author and seller.

> We should take an action about this book in the court of law but

not

> in

> other way. To stop this type of books in future

>

> I am waiting for your co-operation

> Jagan Mohan Erra

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Kalyan,

 

I have to say that the idea of religious "activism" bothers me. I think that

the

only activism that matters is the active seeking of Self-realization. When one

turns toward defending one's faith from perceived attack or misinterpretation,

before one is firmly founded in direct experience of transcendence, it is too

easy

to fall into error. In fact, I surmise that the result will always be to delay

one's

attainment of the one true goal.

 

Only true masters are entrusted by God with the task and the means of spreading

realization. Chela's like me are just not qualified. Look at the life of

Paramahansa

Yogananda, for example. Even though fully realized, he did not spend his time

attacking the errors of others but rather, he put forth the precepts which had

been given him. He did try to pursuade others away from their ill-conceived

viewpoints, but he didn't take them to court. (As an aside, it is true that

Yogananda's master, Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri, did once take someone to

court, but it had nothing to do with religious viewpoints. Someone tried to

swindle him out of the ashram where he taught his young charges, and this is

a different matter from that which we are discussing.)

 

False masters, and I would, sadly, put the Ayatollah Khomeini in this group, do

things like handing out death sentences in absentia to people like Salman

Rushdie.

 

Respectfully,

Ron

 

Message: 4

Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:40:09 -0000

"Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi

Re: An opportunity for activism

 

Dear Ron,

 

That is precisely what we need. Hindus around the world need to know

how sanatana dharma is being denigrated, and scriptures getting

misinterpreted etc etc. Lack of such action will only bolden other

people to do further damage. Lies told thousand times will become the

truth (if not a fact) in public perception.... Being secure in one's

beliefs is just not enough in Kali Yuga.

 

-K

 

P.S. Hi Dean.. its been a while since I got on this forum, been busy

at other forum ;-)

 

 

 

 

vediculture , "Ron Philo" <rphilo@k...> wrote:

> Dear Mohan:

>

> The world is rife with misinterpretations of the world's great

scriptures. Even among

> Christians, for example, practically no one understands the meaning

of the Adam

> and Eve allegory or the Revelation of Saint John, my own

understanding of which

> was immensely informed by study of Hinduism.

>

> My concern is that taking legal action against "Hinduism and Islam

a Comparative

> Study" will only draw attention to it, reminiscent of what happened

with Rushdie's

> "Satanic Verses."

>

> Regards,

> Ron Philo

>

> P.S. Is anyone here familiar with Paramahansa Yogananda's

two-volume Gita

> commentary? Fascinating book, revelatory.

>

> >> <vediculture > 10/04/00 02:58AM >>>

>

>

___________________

___

>

___________________

___

>

> Message: 1

> Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:15:30 -0000

> "Kalyan Kidambi" <k.kidambi@w...>

> Fyi - An opportunity for activism

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> Mohan Erra <ej_mohan@h...>

> <savitabena>; <sanjaysuri@c...>;

> <ssandesh@a...>; <sngayen@s...>; <samsat99@h...>;

> <raviji@t...>; <bapat5@h...>; <draman@l...>;

> <ramn@a...>; <webmaster@t...>;

> <cg-shah@d...>;

> <rahulom@h...>; <r.sekhon@n...>;

> <pushpa_s>;

> <pradip@g...>; <paraghsoni@h...>;

> <pankajpatel@m...>; <sami.p@b...>;

> <ram@v...>;

> <sudesh.sangray@l...>

> Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:56 AM

> Few minutes for India

>

>

> Dear Friends

> (if you really love India and Indian culture spare few minutes for

> this

> mail)

>

> Here I am going to write about an incident briefly, which was

> happened in my

> University's societies fair.

> I am the president of Indian origin society in the University of

> North

> London. In the last year societies fair we ware participated by

> arrange a

> stall to join the new members. At that time I saw a book in the

> Islamic

> society stall, that is "Hinduism and Islam a Comparative Study".

Out

> of

> interest I pick that book with their permission and red few lines.

> then the president of Islamic society started to explain about

> Islam and

> Criticising about Hinduism, then I explained about the basic

concept

> of

> Hinduism and

> What is God what is religion, how to live as a civilised people in

> society

> with deferent type of people. Then he shut his mouth and said we

> will meat

> again.

> After that we had a similar long discussion in the University, he

> cut of the

> topic and gone away. In the next societies fair (on 28th Oct) he

> came to our

> stall and gave me the same book and said that, read this book

> completely and

> come discuss with me. Then I red few chapters from that book and

> felt very

> bad about the book.

> Here I am writing few lines from the book.

>

> 1) Hindu scriptures are essentially pornographic in nature, full

of

> sexual

> allusion, sexual symbolism, passages of frank eroticism and

stories

> relating

> to venal love.

> (Page 23 sex and sex-worship)

> 2) The sexual life of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, is well

> Known for

> its indecency. He had illicit relations with Radha, wife of his

> maternal

> uncle.

> (Same page)

>

> 3) Brahma is found guilty of cohabiting with his own daughter.

> Saraswati.

> (Same page)

> 4) Vishnu is guilty of deceitfully ruining the chastity of a

married

> woman,

> called Tulasi. (Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

> 5) Siva and his consort Parvati are depicted in various explicit

> poses of

> the sexual act.

> (Page 24)

> 6) Hindu Gods and rishis are found engaged in sexual act with

> beautiful

> women and breeding illegitimate children.

> (Page 24 sex and sex-worship)

> 7) it is however, interesting to not that the cow used to be

> slaughtered by

> the ancient Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and

offer

> it as

> sacrifice to their deities.

> (Page 26 Reverence for the Cow)

> 8) The main aim of the Gita was to defend the discriminatory caste

> system.

> It justified

> the caste System with the concept of "Karma". It is full of

> contradictions.

> It legalised

> killing, theft, immoral life and advocated telling of lies and

> addiction to

> alcohol.

>

> And so many things in the book from beginning to end

>

> this book was published in India, Author is from India.

>

> All in formation about the publisher, author and seller in London

Is

> in the

> book, if any one want know the details of the book please e-mail

me.

>

> I would like to know how many people are want to take action

against

> the

> Publisher, author and seller.

> We should take an action about this book in the court of law but

not

> in

> other way. To stop this type of books in future

>

> I am waiting for your co-operation

> Jagan Mohan Erra

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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